Christian Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

This Backslidden Christian

Bonairos

Member
Okay, this guy says he is a Christian for over a decade. He says he was ‘sold-out’ for Jesus and was involved in ministry for many years; even said his conversion was a 180 degree turn from when he was in the ‘world’.

Obviously something happened. For the past couple years he said he backslid. When pressed, he said he went back to his old ways as a lifestyle but never denied being a Christian; just stopped going to church and openly talking about it.

He thought about coming back, but he remembers a story about ‘a dog returning to his own vomit’ or something like that.

What do you say to a person in this predicament?



Be blessed, Stay blessed!
 
Okay, this guy says he is a Christian for over a decade. He says he was ‘sold-out’ for Jesus and was involved in ministry for many years; even said his conversion was a 180 degree turn from when he was in the ‘world’.

Obviously something happened. For the past couple years he said he backslid. When pressed, he said he went back to his old ways as a lifestyle but never denied being a Christian; just stopped going to church and openly talking about it.

He thought about coming back, but he remembers a story about ‘a dog returning to his own vomit’ or something like that.

What do you say to a person in this predicament?



Be blessed, Stay blessed!
this:

Jesus Is Tested in the Wilderness

<sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25065">1</sup> Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, <sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25066">2</sup> where for forty days he was tempted<sup class="footnote" value="[<a href=&quot;#fen-NIV-25066a&quot; title=&quot;See footnote a&quot;>a</a>]">[a]</sup> by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry. <sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25067">3</sup> The devil said to him, “If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread.”
<sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25068">4</sup> Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone.’<sup class="footnote" value="[<a href=&quot;#fen-NIV-25068b&quot; title=&quot;See footnote b&quot;>b</a>]">[b]</sup>”
<sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25069">5</sup> The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. <sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25070">6</sup> And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. <sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25071">7</sup> If you worship me, it will all be yours.”
<sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25072">8</sup> Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’<sup class="footnote" value="[<a href=&quot;#fen-NIV-25072c&quot; title=&quot;See footnote c&quot;>c</a>]">[c]</sup>”
<sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25073">9</sup> The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down from here. <sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25074">10</sup> For it is written:
“‘He will command his angels concerning you
to guard you carefully;
<sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25075">11</sup> they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’<sup class="footnote" value="[<a href=&quot;#fen-NIV-25075d&quot; title=&quot;See footnote d&quot;>d</a>]">[d]</sup>”
<sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25076">12</sup> Jesus answered, “It is said: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’<sup class="footnote" value="[<a href=&quot;#fen-NIV-25076e&quot; title=&quot;See footnote e&quot;>e</a>]">[e]</sup>”
<sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-25077">13</sup> When the devil had finished all this tempting, he left him until an opportune time.



It happens to us all to some degree we are tempted and pruned to make us fruitful.
Maybe your friend is having his time with the devil he must pass through. Once you pass through it and see all that glistens isn't gold you will be tempted less easily in future. Maybe God has plans in the future for him he needs to learn lessons for now.
 
There can be 1001 reasons why a person would do that, from simply an emotional and psychological conversion (not a true one) to perhaps a disappointment, or even just laziness. At least he apparently is not denying the Lord which I guess is a good sign. You have to probe deeper with your friend as to why and apply appropriate scripture from there.
 
Okay, this guy says he is a Christian for over a decade. He says he was ‘sold-out’ for Jesus and was involved in ministry for many years; even said his conversion was a 180 degree turn from when he was in the ‘world’.

Obviously something happened. For the past couple years he said he backslid. When pressed, he said he went back to his old ways as a lifestyle but never denied being a Christian; just stopped going to church and openly talking about it.

He thought about coming back, but he remembers a story about ‘a dog returning to his own vomit’ or something like that.

What do you say to a person in this predicament?



Be blessed, Stay blessed!

And what a predicament it is.

This is the ugly truth of when sin and evil doctrine mix together.

Jam 1:14-15 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.

The simplicity, and thats where I would start with him, in the Gospel is that Christ died for our sins and to set us free from them. The desire he is 'feeling' is a Godly desire to come out of sin.

However, the snare of the enemy is always to keep one in sin. How do you stay in sin? Unbelief of the Gospel, that Christ came to set you free.

The problem with some doctrines state that you have already "received" the eternal reward here and now, not just by faith. Yes, we have that reward with us in our hearts and are waiting for it with great anticipation. But the fact is that while we are still in this flesh and walking on this earth, we do not "have" it. And thank God for that! It is safe and secure with Christ. I would hate to think that I had to somehow keep a hold of it.

But what sin does is it tells us that its "too late". It snares us into the side of unbelief. Because if we believed, we would walk in the freedom that Christ set us free in. It does a number with our mind. Because it takes a piece of the Bible here and one there and then builds a "trap" using God's own words. How diabolical is that???

We have the faith to believe that Christ died for our selves, but yet when we fail and fall on our faces, we cannot seem to find the faith to believe again and continue on down the road.

Now the evil doctrine I speak of is the idea that he never had faith, or that if he did then he is 'secure'. Both sides of that can weave a dangerous web. The idea that he never had faith negates the work that God did in his life at the beginning. The person is therefore prone to seek out a "new" experience and when he realizes that there is none(because the faith he had before was indeed real and God given) he then looses all hope and decides that its too late for himself.

The idea that he is 'secure' is also dangerous for the same reason. The reason that the person is fooled into believing that there is nothing required of him, namely obedience, and that he is just the way he is and worst of all that he needs to try harder!??? Huh? Thats not the Gospel. The Gospel is that he is set free from that sin, and he has been given forgiveness and right standing, all he needs to do is follow the leading of the Spirit.

So, with all that said. I would simply talk to him and ask what he thinks is going to happen. Maybe he never had faith. Who knows, and the fact that we surely do not dictates that we cannot help to anymore a degree than just telling the truth without trying to 'sugar coat it' so its easier on the person. God works in the Spirit, if we try to reach a person in the flesh we will always fail.

Talk to him, present the Gospel. Tell him he is free from sin if he will just accept the truth of it. Its amazing how much God can work through us when we stop trying so hard and start listening more to Him. I know that you do this, so I trust you do not draw offense from that statement.
 
A big AMEN!!! to Nathan's post! I agree fully with him on this.

One thing you might encourage your friend with is that no matter how unfaithful we are to God, God is faithful to us and always encourages and exhorts us to return to Him.

Here are some texts you might want to share with your friend:

Return, O faithless sons, I will heal your faithlessness." "Behold, we come to You; For You are the LORD our God. Jeremiah 3:22

Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of <!– google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) –>peace<!– google_ad_section_end –> be removed," says the LORD, who has compassion on you. Isaiah 54:10

If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:8-9
 
A big AMEN!!! to Nathan's post! I agree fully with him on this.

One thing you might encourage your friend with is that no matter how unfaithful we are to God, God is faithful to us and always encourages and exhorts us to return to Him.

Here are some texts you might want to share with your friend:

Return, O faithless sons, I will heal your faithlessness." "Behold, we come to You; For You are the LORD our God. Jeremiah 3:22

Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of <!– google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) –>peace<!– google_ad_section_end –> be removed," says the LORD, who has compassion on you. Isaiah 54:10

If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:8-9

Ooops! I may have implied the OP wrong. It was a general question dealing with backslidders in the Church and how would you (you in general) reach out to them and bring them back alive.

I like the responses. It shows an open heart.

Here's another scripture to go with what's been said,

Jeremiah 3:14 (nkjv)

"Return, O backsliding children, says the Lord; for I am married to you . . . "

And we know, even if we're unfaithful in our marriage vows, God is never unfaithful in His!


Be blessed, Stay blessed!
 
Back
Top