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:nono I was reading an article by associated press and it was called 10 coolest catholic celebrities and before it anounced them it said something like these celebrities are still popular even though they love jesus, or something like that... Why does it matter if they love jesus or not? I applaud these celebrities for their love in the lord and not to be taken down by the media for this. Well first on the list was Gwen Stefani, and i thought i would mention this because shes someone i look up to, and she also gave me encouragement to be more active in my religon, But its sickening how the media treats their religon, i was really offended when i saw the news report say "even though they love jesus". I hope we see more people in the spotlight who love the lord because it encourages people to love the lord, and i hope other people get influenced by her because she is very big in the spotlight.
 
Not too surprising the media would paint loving Jesus in a bad light.
 
gwen stefani of no doubt a christian? i hope so and not be judgemantal there but i've listened to her before my salvation and she never encouraged me to serve him who died for us. I alway see a lot of her flesh in her videos, she has talent.

jason
 
jasoncran said:
gwen stefani of no doubt a christian? i hope so and not be judgemantal there but i've listened to her before my salvation and she never encouraged me to serve him who died for us. I alway see a lot of her flesh in her videos, she has talent.

jason


It's easy to love Jesus when everything is going your way. Methinks she may be setting our Lord up for a fall!
 
A celebrity who I can honestly say I respect and find inspiring is Denzel Washington, he is a Christian and is the son a minister. Only the Lord can know His heart, but he seems like a great guy.
 
Yes Gwen Stefani does go a little too flashy and her music isn't the best for Christians..but she still serves our God. Which to me means way more than what she does. Yes actions tell you a lot but still.

That is really offensive but it is understandable. The media is like I guess you could say "someone that says something with a hint of going against it". They try not to make it obvious but it is like bold print to most Christians.

I feel bad for Brad Pitt though. Admitting that he didn't believe in God and doesn't believe he exists. that hurt.
 
The way I see it is Gwen Stefani can still be a Christian and do what she does, todays Christians I included are not the Christians of yester year. Yeah we dress a little different, but we still love the Lord
 
Lewis W said:
The way I see it is Gwen Stefani can still be a Christian and do what she does, todays Christians I included are not the Christians of yester year. Yeah we dress a little different, but we still love the Lord
You are entitled to your opinions and maybe your right and i will be fasting for her salvation, i'll post some of her lyrics which cause me doubt Underneath It All lyrics
There's times where I want something more
Someone more like me
There's times when this dress rehearsal
Seems incomplete
But, you see the colors in me like no one else
And behind your dark glasses you're...
You're something else

[Chorus:]
You're really lovely
Underneath it all
You want to love me
Underneath it all
I'm really lucky
Underneath it all
You're really lovely

You know some real bad tricks
And you need some discipline
But, lately you've been trying real hard
And giving me your best
And, you give me the most gorgeous sleep
That I've ever had
And when it's really bad
I guess it's not that bad

[Repeat Chorus]

So many moons that we have seen
Stumbling back next to me
I've seen right through and underneath
And you make me better
I've seen right through and underneath
And you make me better
Better... better...

[Lady Saw:]
You are my real Prince Charmin'
Like the heat from the fire
You were always burnin'
And each time you're around
My body keeps stalin'
For your touch
Your kisses and your sweet romancin'
There's an underside to you
That so many adore
Aside from your temper
Everything else secure
You're good for me, baby
Oh that, I'm sure
Over and over again
I want more

yes this seems mild to some but i maybe reading more in it but i have issues

jason
 
one more

Hey Baby lyrics
I’m the kinda girl that hangs with the guys
Like a fly on the wall with my secret eyes
Takin it in, try to be feminine
With my makeup bag watchin all the sin
Misfit, I sit
Lit up, wicked
Everybody else surrounded by the girls
With the tank tops and the flirty ways

I’m just sippin on chamomile
Watching boys and girls and their sex appeal
With a stranger in the face who says he knows my mom
And went to my high school

[Chorus]
All the boys say,
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Girls Say, Girls Say,
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Hey Baby Baby
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Boys Say, Boys Say
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
All the boys get the girls in the back

I’m the one they feed upon
Give a bit a star is born
And if you had enough you’ll get the pass
And you can tell your friends how you made it back
No matter what they say I’m still the same
Somehow everybody knows my name
And all the girls wanna get with the boys
And the boys really like it

All the boys say,
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Girls Say, Girls Say,
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Hey Baby Baby
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Boys Say, Boys Say
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
All the boys get the girls in the back

[Bounty Killer]
Check it out, it’s Bounty Killer, and No Doubt

Jump on the stage makes me goin crazy
Afterwards myself and one of them gorgeous ladies
There is no need to be actin shady
Comon baby, hey hey baby
[2x]

When you rock your hips you know that it amaze me
Got me off the hook and nothing else don't phase me
Can you be my one and only sunshine lady
If no, no maybe, Hey Baby

[Gwen]
I’m just sippin on chamomile
Watching boys and girls and their sex appeal
With a stranger in the face who says he knows my mom
And went to my high school

[Chorus (2x with some Bounty Killer parts in it)]

maybe it's judgemental but i have doubts about her salvation cause these lyrics tempt me, and if she in christ would this be a good thing , hopefully i'm wrong and she knows jesus, even so i will be praying for her

jason
 
Jason,
If the lyrics tempt you then that is your issue. I see only a few things in these lyrics that could tempt me and that would really need my dirty mind to build upon.

I know tho, we as christians are not supposed to do anything that could cause a brother or sister to fall.

It is simple but complicated at the same time. :crazy
 
walter said:
Jason,
If the lyrics tempt you then that is your issue. I see only a few things in these lyrics that could tempt me and that would really need my dirty mind to build upon.

I know tho, we as christians are not supposed to do anything that could cause a brother or sister to fall.

It is simple but complicated at the same time. :crazy
that's why i dont listen to secular music and i also dont force or harp on others that do. i just wanted to see how some say Gwen is and give examples of good works that's all

jason
 
jasoncran said:
walter said:
Jason,
If the lyrics tempt you then that is your issue. I see only a few things in these lyrics that could tempt me and that would really need my dirty mind to build upon.

I know tho, we as christians are not supposed to do anything that could cause a brother or sister to fall.

It is simple but complicated at the same time. :crazy
that's why i dont listen to secular music and i also dont force or harp on others that do. i just wanted to see how some say Gwen is and give examples of good works that's all

jason


Bro!!
Don't apologize!! You are in the right to say what you have said. I agree with you. I was simply placing the immedidate solution with the individual (you and I) so others could see. I'm sure most here do understand but some may not.
I used to defend certain celebs to my parents, often quoting their lyrics and such. At the time I really didn't see anything wrong with them and I sincerly believe no harm was done to me then. It wasn't until I became more worldly and less innocent that I began to become affected.
Like Paul said, if your heart doesn't condemn you it isn't sin...for you. But honesty is the main factor in that equation.
 
jasoncran said:
one more

Hey Baby lyrics
I’m the kinda girl that hangs with the guys
Like a fly on the wall with my secret eyes
Takin it in, try to be feminine
With my makeup bag watchin all the sin
Misfit, I sit
Lit up, wicked
Everybody else surrounded by the girls
With the tank tops and the flirty ways

I’m just sippin on chamomile
Watching boys and girls and their sex appeal
With a stranger in the face who says he knows my mom
And went to my high school

[Chorus]
All the boys say,
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Girls Say, Girls Say,
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Hey Baby Baby
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Boys Say, Boys Say
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
All the boys get the girls in the back

I’m the one they feed upon
Give a bit a star is born
And if you had enough you’ll get the pass
And you can tell your friends how you made it back
No matter what they say I’m still the same
Somehow everybody knows my name
And all the girls wanna get with the boys
And the boys really like it

All the boys say,
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Girls Say, Girls Say,
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Hey Baby Baby
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
Boys Say, Boys Say
Hey Baby, Hey Baby, Hey
All the boys get the girls in the back

[Bounty Killer]
Check it out, it’s Bounty Killer, and No Doubt

Jump on the stage makes me goin crazy
Afterwards myself and one of them gorgeous ladies
There is no need to be actin shady
Comon baby, hey hey baby
[2x]

When you rock your hips you know that it amaze me
Got me off the hook and nothing else don't phase me
Can you be my one and only sunshine lady
If no, no maybe, Hey Baby

[Gwen]
I’m just sippin on chamomile
Watching boys and girls and their sex appeal
With a stranger in the face who says he knows my mom
And went to my high school

[Chorus (2x with some Bounty Killer parts in it)]

maybe it's judgemental but i have doubts about her salvation cause these lyrics tempt me, and if she in christ would this be a good thing , hopefully i'm wrong and she knows jesus, even so i will be praying for her

jason
Actually this song was written about the temptation in the night life scene, its says "With my makeup bag watchin all the sin
Misfit, I sit
Lit up, wicked
Everybody else surrounded by the girls
With the tank tops and the flirty ways" Its talking about how she is sitting there watching all the sin and being tempted, but she doesnt say she ever falls into the temptation, i definatley dont see how you could be tempted by this song.....
 
you're either naive or i misunderstand you, a person who struggles with any sin doesnt put themselves in that situation of observing it like that and i'll struggle with issues of porn think about that one, if she's a christian why talk about that sin that way, a bar is no place for a christian unless he or she reaching out to someone, and that is whole another thread.
jason
 
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