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Bible Study To Those Who Want To Know.

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Douglas Summers

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I will give the Biblical events of God and His revealed (in Scripture only) purpose and relationship in the Calling out of Israel.
Part One
Understanding the Bible as a whole record and prophecy of Past, present and future events (with the whole of Scripture) is needed to understand the purpose in God's creation of man, Israel and the Church.. God's purpose in His creation of man was to create out of mankind a people of His own. God never intended for man to live in this body forever, But He planted man as a seed to cultivate out of that seed a Holy Creation to live, fellowship and share in His heavenly Kingdom. (John 14:2) (Psalms 23) (1 Cor. 15:39-50) (Heb. 12:22-28) (Heb. 11:13-18) The administration of that kingdom will be His Body (His Church) (1 Cor. 6:2-3) (Rev. 1:6)
From (Gen. 11:10 to John 21:25) is about only Israel (Matt. 15:21-24) The Church is only mentioned to be called out at an appointed time. (Matt. 16:13-20) (Christ says HE WILL BUILD, NOT I'AM BUILDING). From (Gen. 1:1 to 11:9) God dealt with all men the same. The first mention of a Savior for man is in (Gen. 3:14-15). But God knew (before creation) if man did not obey, He would need a Savior, and He would give of Himself to harvest a Kingdom in His image by conforming men by grace in the image of Christ (complete conformity) (Gen. 1:26-27) (Gen. 6:5-7) (Rom. 8:28-34). There should be no discussion about free will to choose good or evil, or rather to obey or disobey. Scripture makes that clear (Gen. 2:15-17; Gen. 3:1-6,17) (Isaiah 14:12-14).
It is MY thought that when God created the angels (with free will), they were created with a heavenly body. The heavenly body is not subject to the pangs of sin like the mortal body. When man sins, the results can be felt in the flesh (disease, blindness, sickness, death, loss of body parts, sadness, grief, Hunger, famine, sorrows), all of these things are not known to angels, they do not even understand Salvation! (1 Pet. 1:9-12) So by the flesh, sin shows it's ugly and deadly results. So God planted us in the flesh (not the body that He wanted, (1 Cor. 15:35-50) but the seed to be cultivated into a heavenly immortal body) So be that the planted body (seed) produced fruit , but if not (Matt. 13:24-30) (John 15:1-8)
The birth of Israel and the promises starts with Abraham (Abrahamic Covenant) Genesis Chapter 12, and will also benefit all Gentile nations (Gen. 12:2-3) (Rom. 15:9-13). From Genesis chapter 12 to John Chapter 21 is about Israel, The Gentile nations only being included as they touch Israel. The Acts (of the Apostles) to Revelation Chapter 4 is Church Doctrine. Revelations chapter 5 thru Chapter 22 is about the warnings and promises of Israel and the TRIBULATION they will experience, and the New Heaven and Earth into eternity.
The promises to Abraham were also confirmed to his son Issac and Jacob. Then came the slavery of Israel in Egypt...Then the Exodus from Egypt; The Law under Moses and Arron ; 40 years in the desert. As Moses comes to his end, God instructs Moses to explain the Blessings of obedience and the curses for disobedience before they enter the promised land. Since the capture of Israel and Judah, (which is the cursing God warned Israel of in Deuteronomy if they were disobedient) Chapters 28 thru 30. The Jew has been under the rule of the Gentile, even to this day, and it will be that way until the "times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.(Luke 21:20-24)
for His glory, if you want to understand the events in the Revelation of Jesus the Christ, you are going to have to read these chapters in Deuteronomy..... I will continue this in the next post.....unless your not interested.

In Christ
Douglas Summers
 
I've always enjoyed discussions of the "inclusion theology" and refuting the zionism and replacement theologies that are often so prevalent.

Of how the adherants of the Old Covenant (primarily Jews) and those of the New Covenant (primarily everyone else) both contribute to the Righteousness of God.
 
The Abrahamic Covenant is the key to understand God's plans and purposes for the Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body) and redeemed and restored Israel (dwelling eternally in the Land of Promise).

The errors arose when Christians assumed that because God had judged and dispersed Israel in the first century that He was finished with Israel. Had they kept reading the OT, they would have discovered that God will also bring back the Hebrews to Israel.
 
Malachi said:
The Abrahamic Covenant is the key to understand God's plans and purposes for the Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body) and redeemed and restored Israel (dwelling eternally in the Land of Promise).

The errors arose when Christians assumed that because God had judged and dispersed Israel in the first century that He was finished with Israel. Had they kept reading the OT, they would have discovered that God will also bring back the Hebrews to Israel.
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Exactly, I intend to bring the 7 covenants in their proper order, and to show that six of the Covenants were unconditional or perpetual, but only the "Mosaic Covenant" (the law) was conditional upon mans obedience. All of the 7 covenants meet in Christ, He fulfills all of them by His obedience to the Fathers will, while He suffered in the flesh for our sake.
In the six perpetual (unconditional) Covenants, God says of Himself, I will do (this for you). But in the Mosaic Covenant, God says, If you will do (obey the law), Then God would reward Israel.
 
What is truly astounding is God's love for Israel. Given their history, they should have been totally wiped off the map. God just about wiped them out, had it not been for the intercession of Moses. It is only because of Christ (both at His first and second comings) that Israel has continued to exist. And we see a microcosm of the way God wants to ultimately see Israel, when we read about the 144,000 redeemed Jews (12,000 from each tribe).

These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. (Rev 14:4,5).
 
Malachi said:
What is truly astounding is God's love for Israel. Given their history, they should have been totally wiped off the map. God just about wiped them out, had it not been for the intercession of Moses. It is only because of Christ (both at His first and second comings) that Israel has continued to exist. And we see a microcosm of the way God wants to ultimately see Israel, when we read about the 144,000 redeemed Jews (12,000 from each tribe).

These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. (Rev 14:4,5).
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Amen Malachi, When I teach that I mostly get, "it is only a symbol and it is not literal". But the Truth is, there will be a 144,000 Jew's preaching the Gospel with the zeal of Paul.
 
reba said:
That was not the question.
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Short answer is NO...
Your identity is vastly different. It takes ten generations to be pure...and three to be "Temple acceptable" if I am remembering accurately. But its been a while since I looked at that stuff...and my memory fades.

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reba said:
I am part jewish a small part but part am i part of "all Israel" by blood?
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To the Israel of God there is no such thing as part Jewish. No matter what nation the Jew was scattered to, He never lost his identity, Even when they married a Gentile. God said it would be that way. But all Israel does not have anything to do with the Church. All Israel is the nation of Israel that is restored after the the great tribulation. The Church is not Jewish, neither is it Israel. The Church was called out before their was an Israel.......even before creation in the purpose of God. (Eph. 1:3-6) Israel was called out at the beginning of Creation.
 
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Malachi said:
That's exactly what I tried to convey above. During the Church Age, there is neither Jew nor Gentile in the eyes God. All are just sinners who need salvation.
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Yes, and one day soon His Church (body) will be completed, Then His attention goes back to Israel and restoring The Kingdom as prophesied. But right now, God is not saving the World, He is calling out a people of His own (Acts 15:13-18)
 
Douglas Summers said:
Yes, and one day soon His Church (body) will be completed, Then His attention goes back to Israel and restoring The Kingdom as prophesied. But right now, God is not saving the World, He is calling out a people of His own (Acts 15:13-18)
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Can you please clarify your statement about restoring the kingdom as prophesied, as in what kingdom is to be restored? When you say restored kingdom, are you saying it will be restored as under the covenant made with Moses?
 
ezrider said:
Can you please clarify your statement about restoring the kingdom as prophesied, as in what kingdom is to be restored? When you say restored kingdom, are you saying it will be restored as under the covenant made with Moses?
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It is under the Abrahamic Covenant that the kingdom of Israel will be restored, after their redemption at the Second Coming of Christ. There are numerous prophesies pertaining to this, and that is why the apostles asked this question prior to the ascension of Christ:

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. (Acts 1:6,7).
 
ezrider said:
Can you please clarify your statement about restoring the kingdom as prophesied, as in what kingdom is to be restored? When you say restored kingdom, are you saying it will be restored as under the covenant made with Moses?
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No, it is restored under the Davidic Covenant (2 Samuel 7:4-19) (Psalms 89:20-37)
The Covenant promises : A house of posterity; A throne of royal authority: Reign over the kingdom, and the Covenant is everlasting (forever)
There is a condition to the Davidic Covenant: Disobedience and rebellion will be followed by chastisement, but the Covenant will never be annulled or abrogation. The covenant is forever.

(Isa. 11:10-12) tells how the kingdom will be established, Along with (Jer. 23:3-8 ; 33:14-21) ; (Ezek. 37:22-28) ; (Hosea 3:4-5) ; (Micah 5:2) There is more Scripture in the NT in the 4 Gospels and Acts, but this should suffice to study The Davidic Covenant. The Covenant also promises that a Son of David will rule upon that throne forever.

And Christ is the son of David according to the flesh and the son of God according to the Spirit. (Rom. 1:1-4)
 
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