True teachings of Jesus

[Dorothy Mae]

Yes Hades is where they were= the grave. Jesus was resurrected on the 3rd day, thus was not in paradise on the first day. As well the bible is clear the resurrection occurs after Armageddon.

The place where the dead went was called “Paradise” in the OT.

“The Old Testament believers went to a place of comfort and rest called “paradise” when they died. The Old Testament taught life after death and that everyone who departed from this life went to a place of conscious existence. The general term for this place was Sheol, which could be translated “the grave” or “the realm of the dead.”

This is where all the godly dead went.

 

[Hopeful]

Hades translates-grave--Jesus was resurrected on the 3rd day.

You should use the term "grave" in this century, for clarity.
Otherwise, folks may accidently think you refer to hell.

 

[keiw1]

The place where the dead went was called “Paradise” in the OT.

“The Old Testament believers went to a place of comfort and rest called “paradise” when they died. The Old Testament taught life after death and that everyone who departed from this life went to a place of conscious existence. The general term for this place was Sheol, which could be translated “the grave” or “the realm of the dead.”

This is where all the godly dead went.

The Hebrew word=Sheol=the grave. Thats where all in OT went, The Greek word Hades= Sheol=the grave. And the bible teaches--All thought stops on the day of ones death.

 

[keiw1]

You should use the term "grave" in this century, for clarity.
Otherwise, folks may accidently think you refer to hell.

The word Hades = hell= the grave. If you mean the lake of fire= the second death--There is no life in death. All thought stops on the day of ones death, One would not know where they were, they could not suffer either. Jesus was clear-- Enter through the narrow gate, for cramped is the road that leads off into life, FEW are the ones finding it. For broad and spacious the path that leads to destruction, many have entered this way--You see Jesus teaches one will be destroyed.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Yes the thief will be in paradise, after he is resurrected which does not occur until after Armageddon. Proving he was not in paradise on that first day.

That's irrelevant. You don't believe he will be resurrected, you believe a copy of him will come into existence, at the "recreation"

 

[keiw1]

That's irrelevant. You don't believe he will be resurrected, you believe a copy of him will come into existence, at the "recreation"

Please dont tell me what i believe. I believe it will be him, after Armageddon.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Please dont tell me what i believe. I believe it will be him, after Armageddon.

So you believe the person himself, his soul survives physical death. And God will raise up the body that died, even if it was dissolved, there is still something remaining of it that will rise and the person's soul will be reunited with that body.

The resurrected body will either be a immortal "supernatural" body like Christ's risen body (which is why the Tomb was empty);

OR it will be an abomination reeking of corruption, perhaps like the walking dead in that AMC tv series, raised up to a resurrection of condemnation weeping and gnashing their teeth. Their consuming worms will not die out as they painfully consume the body while the soul is imprisoned within. The sinner is then tossed body and soul into Gehenna fire, the fire that cannot be quenched.

So the person who died returns to the land of the living or is cast into Gehenna Lake of Fire to die the second death, the death from which there is no resurrection.

Do you believe in this Resurrection of the body and soul or in "RECREATION":

Where God's memory of the person is "recreated" and springs into life on earth?

The "exact copy" of the person who died, it will be programmed with all the person's memory, so it will really believe it is the person who died, who remains dead in the grave?

For a person telling us the Watchtower is God's faithful and discreet slave on earth, you seem a bit ashamed of their teaching on "resurrection-recreation", if that is still what they believe. Or did they change it like they did their false prophecies of Christ's return in 1914 etc.?

 

[Hopeful]

The word Hades = hell= the grave. If you mean the lake of fire= the second death--There is no life in death. All thought stops on the day of ones death, One would not know where they were, they could not suffer either. Jesus was clear-- Enter through the narrow gate, for cramped is the road that leads off into life, FEW are the ones finding it. For broad and spacious the path that leads to destruction, many have entered this way--You see Jesus teaches one will be destroyed.

I don't know what that has to do with my post?
Hades, hell, and grave have nothing to do with the second death.
All 3 (1 really), will be thrown into the lake of fire on the day of judgment.
Then the suffering will start for eternity.

 

[keiw1]

So you believe the person himself, his soul survives physical death. And God will raise up the body that died, even if it was dissolved, there is still something remaining of it that will rise and the person's soul will be reunited with that body.

The resurrected body will either be a immortal "supernatural" body like Christ's risen body (which is why the Tomb was empty);

OR it will be an abomination reeking of corruption, perhaps like the walking dead in that AMC tv series, raised up to a resurrection of condemnation weeping and gnashing their teeth. Their consuming worms will not die out as they painfully consume the body while the soul is imprisoned within. The sinner is then tossed body and soul into Gehenna fire, the fire that cannot be quenched.

So the person who died returns to the land of the living or is cast into Gehenna Lake of Fire to die the second death, the death from which there is no resurrection.

Do you believe in this Resurrection of the body and soul or in "RECREATION":

Where God's memory of the person is "recreated" and springs into life on earth?

The "exact copy" of the person who died, it will be programmed with all the person's memory, so it will really believe it is the person who died, who remains dead in the grave?

For a person telling us the Watchtower is God's faithful and discreet slave on earth, you seem a bit ashamed of their teaching on "resurrection-recreation", if that is still what they believe. Or did they change it like they did their false prophecies of Christ's return in 1914 etc.?

God has a name for every star in the heavens. Billions of them in each galaxy. His power is far beyond mortal thinking. No one knows if it will be the same atoms put back together or a new body similar to what one was. Since cannot be proved either way it really isnt to be discussed, because one can only speculate.
1914 Christ received his crown-Rev 6-- Its called the presence-Matt 24:3-2Peter 3:4) see at rev 6--peace was taken from the earth, not a single war a world war. That ride of the white horse was the war in heaven, satan and his angels cast to earth, angry knowing his time was short. Filled mens hearts with hatred to kill each other all over the world. then after ww1, millions upon millions died of things mentioned of the other 3 riders. Yet Michael took the ride at the war heaven, but see he is the one getting the crown, only Jesus gets the crown=Jesus is Michael, and upon his return he comes with the voice of the archangel(1Thess 4:16)-its his voice--It is Michael who stands up for Gods chosen here in these last days-Daniel 12:1

 

[keiw1]

I don't know what that has to do with my post?
Hades, hell, and grave have nothing to do with the second death.
All 3 (1 really), will be thrown into the lake of fire on the day of judgment.
Then the suffering will start for eternity.

The reason death and hades will be thrown in is to prove it is destruction-eternal.