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Trying to Come to Christ, but Feel Inferior Compared to Others

CJO1991

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Hello, I am a twenty-one year old male. I was raised in the church and went until I was seventeen (I quit going due when I started to work). I was always forced to go, and although I believed the stories, I never really felt a strong conviction in them and did not really give myself to God. From seventeen to twenty, I went to church maybe twice, and God was never really a part of my life; I would read some scripture occasionally, but it never really touched me.

After growing as a person, I have realized how important it is to have God on my side, as I want to go to Heaven when I die, not to a lake of fire. Here is my problem: Even though I am acting better (in terms of what God wants), I feel so inferior to other Christians.

Here are some examples:

1: I do not curse nearly as much as I used to (I still do occasionally, but not very much), but I still think curses. When I think of Christians who never curse and rarely even think curses, I feel inferior to them.

2: I do not drink as much as I used to (I still get drunk sometimes, but not as frequently). When I think of Christians who never (or just occasionally drink), I feel inferior to them.

3: I do not go to church that much (mainly due to a bad work schedule), so when I think of folks who go to church weekly, I feel inferior to them.

4: I still indulge in "things of the world" (the profane music, movies, etc.), so when I think of Christians who try to abstain from those things, I feel inferior to them.

5: Despite my best efforts, I am finding it very hard to make it a habit to pray daily, so when I think about Christians who pray daily, I feel inferior to them.


I know that the principle of Christianity is that once you accept the fact that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and that without his grace, you are a helpless sinner, you are forgiven and get to spend eternity in heaven when your time on Earth ends. But I think about when God goes to judge me and judges my deeds, compared to people that are very religious, God is going to judge me far less favorably than them.

When I told the main person that has been helping me find God again, somebody that I work with, about this worry of mine, he gave me a Bible verse that was something like "All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." He used that to show that even the "best" Christian is a filthy sinner without God's grace, so it is not even worth trying to be "perfect", because it is impossible. I see his point, but I still feel badly about sharing my faith with so many people that I perceive as better Christians than me.

I really want to become a committed Christian and let Jesus completely into my heart (I am trying, but it has not quite happened yet). I just feel such shame in going into a church and worshiping God, knowing that I still sometimes curse, drink, look at women with lust, etc. I know that we are all sinners and it is impossible for us to even come close to God's glory, but I know that I have such a long way to go, it is hard to completely let Jesus into my heart, just because I feel unworthy of such love (even though the scripture says completely to the contrary).

How can I accept the fact that I am farther away from where God wants me than other people?
 
Welcome to CF.net CJO1991 in Jesus'name. It's good to have you with us, and we are a work in progress by God to will, and to do of His good pleasure, and He is not done with any of us yet. Stick around and I think many here will do you good. :wave
 
We all have areas we need to work on, and it'll always be that way as long as we're alive. We'll always feel the need to improve.
There are plenty of Christians with the same problems, too. Me, too. I'll admit that swear in my head and under my breath more than I'd care to admit (this used to never be a problem for me, too), I sometimes watch things I know I shouldn't, and although I know I should read my Bible daily I often forget to because I get caught up in other things. My prayer life could be better as well. One of my worst habits is procrastination, and that I can't seem to get rid of this habit really upsets me sometimes.

God already forgave our sins once and for all, so we won't be judged for those. So what we must be judged for is what we did for God in our lives. I'm sure on that day, we're all going to be thinking, "If only I had done more..."
 
the occultists and in general the spiritual/religious violators/offenders can most easily go to the so-called "lake of fire", so if you so far used things like: mantras, spells, incantations, etc., (then) it would be good if you stop (to) do it, while as regards the spiritual life/activity in God and Jesus, it would be enough if you find time for compassion towards the other people/souls and prayers primarily for the profit/wealth of the others in the true God and Jesus - this would be enough for a start, because God is omnipotent as regards the good things as well as He only can best keep the people, while it would be enough if the believers leave the spiritual intervention to Him showing love to the others through prayer

Blessings
 
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I know that the principle of Christianity is that once you accept the fact
that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and that without his grace, you are a
helpless sinner, you are forgiven

From reading, it's not that simple. People seem to think that they can keep on with their sins, like homosexuals, and they will enter the kingdom.
As the Lord said himself, Sin no more.

Put to death, the things of this world and the things of earthy men. Take up the sword and armor of the Lord and follow him.

Be not in fear of living man or what he could do to you, when you are in the vanguard of our Lord, what can earthy stupid man do unto you?
 
In 2 Peter 3.18 it says: 'Grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ'. This is a permanent state of affairs for the believer in the Lord Jesus; we never cease to need such a challenge.
 
We all have areas we need to work on, and it'll always be that way as long as we're alive. We'll always feel the need to improve.
There are plenty of Christians with the same problems, too. Me, too. I'll admit that swear in my head and under my breath more than I'd care to admit (this used to never be a problem for me, too), I sometimes watch things I know I shouldn't, and although I know I should read my Bible daily I often forget to because I get caught up in other things. My prayer life could be better as well. One of my worst habits is procrastination, and that I can't seem to get rid of this habit really upsets me sometimes.

God already forgave our sins once and for all, so we won't be judged for those. So what we must be judged for is what we did for God in our lives. I'm sure on that day, we're all going to be thinking, "If only I had done more..."

Hi [MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION] :

Just wondering, you said this didn't use to be a problem; do you think it's partly because of some of the music you now listen to? or maybe this has little to do with; just a case of your exposure generally to the adult world.

This makes me think of something that Martin Luther said: You can't stop the birds flying over your head, but you can stop them making a nest in your hair!

(Interesting way of putting it! :) )

A daily spiritual diet of Bible reading and prayer does go a long way to help us become more conformed to the image of the Lord Jesus.

Blessings.
 
Hi @questdriven :

Just wondering, you said this didn't use to be a problem; do you think it's partly because of some of the music you now listen to? or maybe this has little to do with; just a case of your exposure generally to the adult world.

This makes me think of something that Martin Luther said: You can't stop the birds flying over your head, but you can stop them making a nest in your hair!

(Interesting way of putting it! :) )

A daily spiritual diet of Bible reading and prayer does go a long way to help us become more conformed to the image of the Lord Jesus.

Blessings.
No. The music I listen to is pretty much clean, even the anime music.
I blame the internet, as well as exposure to the adult world. In which case...guess it was bound to happen eventually.
 
No. The music I listen to is pretty much clean, even the anime music.
I blame the internet, as well as exposure to the adult world. In which case...guess it was bound to happen eventually.

questdriven:

Yes, the antidote is prayer and the Scriptures, right? they are such a daily blessings.

Yes, re. the hard rock music that you like, there is a lot of it that is clean and with God honoring lyrics, right?

Blessings.
 
he gave me a Bible verse that was something like "All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away."

That Isaiah 64:6 is discussed on http://www.gotquestions.org/filthy-rags.html which may help you check if you are interpreting this quote well. I think the thing to take away from this is that striving for the above five points without an inward change will not gain favor with God but rather make you a pharisee Matthew 23:25-26; Matthew 6:1,6:5; Mark 7:6 (referencing Isaiah 29:13). This is not to imply we should not strive for these things Philippians 4:8; Romans 13:12-14; Ephesians 5:4, 5:11, 5:18. Rather, it becomes our desire not to grieve the Spirit Ephesians 4:30, mixing light with darkness 2 Corinthians 6:14, but to make music from your heart to the Lord Ephasians 5:19. Galatians 5:16-24. Consider King David, a sinful man but affirmed to be after God's own heart http://www.gotquestions.org/man-after-God-heart.html. Paul considered himself to be the least of the apostles 1 Corinthians 15:9 and his pharisee-ism "a loss" Philippians 3:5-11. I think putting your heart in the right place with God, rather than comparing yourself with others, will put things in motion for the best. I think it has helped me recently, though I'm far from where I should be.
 
Here's scripture about people comparing themselves to others, though more from the other side: Luke 18:9-14 Matthew 18:1-5 Luke 9:46-48 Luke 22:24-30.

Romans 7:13

The book of Romans has much to say about sin. Romans 6:2.

but I still feel badly about sharing my faith with so many people that I perceive as better Christians than me. I really want to become a committed Christian and let Jesus completely into my heart (I am trying, but it has not quite happened yet). I just feel such shame in going into a church and worshiping God, knowing that I still sometimes curse, drink, look at women with lust, etc. I know that we are all sinners and it is impossible for us to even come close to God's glory, but I know that I have such a long way to go, it is hard to completely let Jesus into my heart, just because I feel unworthy of such love (even though the scripture says completely to the contrary).

Luke 5:8-11.
 
Don't compare yourself to others. Compare yourself to your past self.

If you want to have human role models, chose one or two people, not more! Never compare yourself to the anonymous mass of "other christians" (many of which are way more sinfull than what you describe of yourself, they just hide it better).
 
One of my favorite verses (it has some deeper ties for me) is 2 Timothy 4:7, which reads: " I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith." To me, life is similar to a race (This analogy might help if you ever ran cross country or track). We as Christians are all on the same team and are running this race towards Jesus. There may be some that are further along in the course than you, but they are not in a completely different race. That is exactly why you should be talking to "more experienced Christians" than yourself, because they are a great resource to inform you on what may lie ahead, or strategies that you could take to navigate the course more smoothly.

There should be no guilt involved, though I do understand where you are coming from. My faith story is similar to yours. I am currently a 22 year old male and I didn't truly come to faith until last year, and I also grew up in the church. I struggle with self-esteem as well, so the transition was not easy, but by the grace of God, I'm slowly starting to know him more, I'm meeting with older men and experiencing the fruit from those meetings. It is really easy to think of others in a whole other class than you, but the reality is, they are just a little further ahead in the same race. They have more time under there belts. There is no shame in asking others more experience than yourself for help.


And finally..God did not give us the Law so that we may have a list of rules to follow to become righteous. Like your friend said, the Law was given so that we can realize just how broken we are, how we all CAN'T follow the Law, and that we need Jesus if we hope for future communion with God. We're all in the same boat my friend. You are no worse than anyone you are speaking to if you are in Christ.
 
CJO1991 I wish you a warm welcome! That is one of the most open and honest things I've read. I would encourage you to not to give up. Wanting to avoid hell is a good place to start. Wanting to pray, wanting to read the bible, or wanting to sin less will come it just takes time. God is more concerned with where you are heading, not where you are at.
 
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I have the same thoughts! A couple things that I think about often is my alcohol consumption & lack of volunteering. My husband doesn't drink, which is great because I know if he did, I would def be drinking more. I find it hard to stray away from because it's always something I do when I'm with family & friends, and I enjoy it. Also, I've never volunteered... if I have time to go on the computer & use facebook, I can find time to volunteer. Just a couple things among many that I need to work on & will continue to seek God's help.
 
I have the same thoughts! A couple things that I think about often is my alcohol consumption & lack of volunteering. My husband doesn't drink, which is great because I know if he did, I would def be drinking more. I find it hard to stray away from because it's always something I do when I'm with family & friends, and I enjoy it. Also, I've never volunteered... if I have time to go on the computer & use facebook, I can find time to volunteer. Just a couple things among many that I need to work on & will continue to seek God's help.

Hi @sjlord88 :

Although my wife and I don't keep alcohol in the house, I did sometimes drink wine and it was nice, of course; and while the Bible cautions moderation in alcohol drinking, I don't see that it prohibits it outright.

I have done some volunteering; but of course also it doesn't have anything to do with coming to Christ: salvation is by grace, through faith, not of works, Ephesians 2.8-9; but it's interesting that the next verse speaks of good works being the result of faith, Ephesians 2.10.
 
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