Turning the other cheek can be hard. But it is required.(only for believers)

[evenifigoalone]

Read Corrie Ten Boom's biography twice.

 

[reba]

from his page
"Jesus said. If they will not believe Moses, they will not believe me. So if you do not believe Moses ,or Jesus, you will reject my writings too. However feel free to write. I answer all emails. "

follower you have set yourself on a throne that is not yours. In the above statement you have set yourself not only above Moses but above the Christ.

 

[follower]

follower you have set yourself on a throne that is not yours. In the above statement you have set yourself not only above Moses but above the Christ.

the above stmt, as you put it, is a quote is from his page btw, not what i said - i didn't set myself up anywhere.
and Yeshua said it. do you think Yeshua set His disciples up above Moses and Himself ???

in scripture, that is what Yeshua said to His students, not to His teachers(as if their was a human one). I.E. not someone set up over anyone else, but UNDER. students under the Master.
He told His students that the world would treat them the same as He was treated - badly.
He told His students that which is quoted.
They did not make it up nor chose it. Yeshua says it.

"John 15:16-21King James Version (KJV)
16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
King James Version (KJV)
by Public Domain "

from web search >
John 15 NLT ....... And if they had listened to me, they would listen to you. 21 ...

Yeshua tells all His disciples this, and more, ahead of time, so they know why the world hates them and so that they may have / keep His Perfect Peace.

 

[reba]

follower, i stand corrected..

 

[follower]

reba..... humbly, thank you...... shalom in Yeshua ! jeff (follower)

 

[Roro1972]

the above stmt, as you put it, is a quote is from his page btw, not what i said - i didn't set myself up anywhere.
and Yeshua said it. do you think Yeshua set His disciples up above Moses and Himself ???

in scripture, that is what Yeshua said to His students, not to His teachers(as if their was a human one). I.E. not someone set up over anyone else, but UNDER. students under the Master.
He told His students that the world would treat them the same as He was treated - badly.
He told His students that which is quoted.
They did not make it up nor chose it. Yeshua says it.

"John 15:16-21King James Version (KJV)
16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
King James Version (KJV)
by Public Domain "

from web search >
John 15 NLT ....... And if they had listened to me, they would listen to you. 21 ...

Yeshua tells all His disciples this, and more, ahead of time, so they know why the world hates them and so that they may have / keep His Perfect Peace.

may I ask a question about v 16? actually all these verses but it seems to be noted in 16.
It says in 16 I have chosen you and I have ordained you to bring forth fruit. So he is not talking to the fruit to come.
that must be the disciples he is speaking of and to.
And it seems he is speaking to the disciples throughout these verses not talking to the fruit they are to bring forth.

 

[Edward]

Turning the other cheek is hard to do. I struggle with it.

 

[Kathi]

I am praying and focusing on God when I do it.It is what He wants us to do.

 

[follower]

may I ask a question about v 16? actually all these verses but it seems to be noted in 16.
It says in 16 I have chosen you and I have ordained you to bring forth fruit. So he is not talking to the fruit to come.
that must be the disciples he is speaking of and to.
And it seems he is speaking to the disciples throughout these verses not talking to the fruit they are to bring forth.

Yeshua explained things to His disciples, and Yhwh opened their minds to understand or else they did not understand. The common people, the crowds that is, and the scribes and pharisees , religious leaders and scholars and lawyers, did not understand Yeshua nor accept Him. Just like today, still.

The emphasis or even attempts to draw attention to 'fruit' in popular sermons and broadcasts is, I think, not even understood by those talking about it/broadcasting it. They seem to be preaching a social gospel(ineffectual for the saving of souls) to get people interested in their own circle of things and not in the things of Yhwh. They usually also direct people to seek 'gifts', and other seemingly good things, but they neglect Yhwh the Creator and Giver of all Life.
Yeshua says to seek Yhwh. He says that whoever seeks Yhwh the Creator will find Him. He qualifies that many many times in His discussions with His chosen apostles and disciples.
And it seems that only those , in the N.T., who were immersed after repentance accepted Yeshua - those who did not get immersed did not accept Him - at least this is said somewhere in the N.T. related to some who were opposing Him. I'll look it up later if there's time.(try Scripture search).
((here it is)) from biblegateway >>
"Luke 7:29-30Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
29 All the people who heard him, even the tax-collectors, by undergoing Yochanan’s immersion acknowledged that God was right; 30 but the P’rushim and the Torah-teachers, by not letting themselves be immersed by him, nullified for themselves God’s plan."

"Luke 7:30-32 NIV - But the Pharisees and the experts in ...
But the Pharisees and the experts in the law rejected God’s purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John.) Jesus went on to say, “To what ...https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+7:30..."