Understanding Types & Shadows

[Edward]

Romans 5:14 speaks of it too

Romans 5:14
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.../

See? it calls Adam, a figure of Him that was to come, rather than a type, but it's the same.

 

[Edward]

In the letter to the Colossians Paul noted that many of the institutions and commands revealed under the Law of Moses were, “things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ” Colossians 2:17. The same thrust is found in Hebrews 10:1 “For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things”. In reference to the tabernacle in the Old Testament, the Hebrew writer notes that the Levitical priests served, “a copy and shadow of the heavenly things’” (Hebrews 8:5).


I'm not making this stuff up, Brother...

 

[Malachi]

I'm pretty sure the Passover was a shadow of the last supper/crucifixion. God's firstborn died.

Scripture itself tells us that Christ is our Passover. Every aspect of the lamb which was slain by the Israelites represented Christ. Therefore the observance of Passover is now null and void. Instead we have the Lord's Supper.

Also, the application of the blood of the lamb on the door posts and lintels has deep spiritual significance. Unless the blood of Christ is applied to our souls supernaturally by God, we cannot have remission of sins, and freedom from guilt.

Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. (Rev 1:5,6).

 

[wondering]

How about the crossing of the Red Sea?
We leave behind us our bondage to slavery.
We go through the water - as in baptism --
And come out on the other side, with a new life before us.
Which isn't easy,
But we do get to the Promised Land.

Jesus fulfills the Law
Jesus is the Bread from Heaven, the new Manna
We are baptized into Christ
He gives us a life more abundant
He is the narrow gate.

W

 

[JLB]

How about the crossing of the Red Sea?
We leave behind us our bondage to slavery.
We go through the water - as in baptism --
And come out on the other side, with a new life before us.
Which isn't easy,
But we do get to the Promised Land.

W

Amen!

Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. 1 Corinthians 10:1-5

 

[Edward]

How about the crossing of the Red Sea?
We leave behind us our bondage to slavery.
We go through the water - as in baptism --
And come out on the other side, with a new life before us.
Which isn't easy,
But we do get to the Promised Land.

Jesus fulfills the Law
Jesus is the Bread from Heaven, the new Manna
We are baptized into Christ
He gives us a life more abundant
He is the narrow gate.

W

Yeah, narrow gate. Only two of them made it into the promised land.

 

[OzSpen]

In the letter to the Colossians Paul noted that many of the institutions and commands revealed under the Law of Moses were, “things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ” Colossians 2:17. The same thrust is found in Hebrews 10:1 “For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things”. In reference to the tabernacle in the Old Testament, the Hebrew writer notes that the Levitical priests served, “a copy and shadow of the heavenly things’” (Hebrews 8:5).


I'm not making this stuff up, Brother...

I appreciate your going to these specifics and they lend weight to your argument. But you did say in the OP, 'Jesus is on almost (if not all) every page of the OT'. That is a gross exaggeration - hyperbole.

 

[JLB]

I appreciate your going to these specifics and they lend weight to your argument. But you did say in the OP, 'Jesus is on almost (if not all) every page of the OT'. That is a gross exaggeration - hyperbole.

A gross exaggeration is your opinion.

All of the old testament is filled with the types of Christ.

If the silence about the birth and death of Melchizedek is a type itself, then how can we possibly number them?


For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,2 to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated “king of righteousness,” and then also king of Salem, meaning “king of peace,” 3 without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually. Hebrews 7:1-3

 

[Free]

A gross exaggeration is your opinion.

All of the old testament is filled with the types of Christ.

If the silence about the birth and death of Melchizedek is a type itself, then how can we possibly number them?


For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,2 to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated “king of righteousness,” and then also king of Salem, meaning “king of peace,” 3 without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually. Hebrews 7:1-3

That hardly supports the claim that types and shadows of Christ are found on or nealy on every page of the OT. Not to mention it would depend on how large these pages are.

 

[turnorburn]

I appreciate your going to these specifics and they lend weight to your argument. But you did say in the OP, 'Jesus is on almost (if not all) every page of the OT'. That is a gross exaggeration - hyperbole.

Gross exaggeration? Jesus Is the living Word of God..

 

[OzSpen]

I'm pretty sure that Paul was talking about types & shadows in 1 Corinthians 10:1-12

Check that out and tell me what you think.

Edward,

There are at least 4 different interpretations of 1 Cor 10:3, 'And did all eat the same spiritual meat'. This is not the place to discuss these. They are articulated by Charles Hodge in A Commentary on 1 & 2 Corinthians (Edinburgh/Carlisle, Pennsylvania: The Banner of Truth Trust, 1974), pp. 172-174. See HERE.

We see Israel's example in 1 Cor 10:1-5 (NIV) and that example applied by giving a warning against idolatry (1 Cor 10:6-13 NIV).

In vv 1-5, it is a powerful type with the language of 'our fathers' and their form of 'baptism' and the 'Eucharist'. It prefigured our baptism and the Lord's Supper.

What was the purpose of the type given from the OT and articulated in 1 Cor 10:1-5 (NIV)? It continues with some of the events in Exodus to warn the Corinthians (vv 6, 11-12). These Corinthians enjoyed blessings like those of Israel but the Corinthians were in danger of losing those blessings because of their idolatry: 'Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. Do not be idolaters....' (1 Cor 10:6-7a NIV).

These things in Exodus happened to be examples to the Corinthians 'so, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't fall' (1 Cor 10:12 NIV).

That's my understanding of this type. But it is important to realise that it is only a type or shadow because it is specifically mentioned as such in the NT. We are not left to speculate that types and shadows are on nearly every page of the OT. That isn't true.

Yes, there are types and shadows that are mentioned in the NT that draw attention to examples from the OT, but the NT has to mention them as examples to make them types.

Oz

 

[reba]

Gee let the guy see.what. God has just opened this to him .. Edward will see the types and shadows every where then his feet will hit ground again... I so remember when i learned something new in the Lord it is over whelming.. it is to be enjoyed...

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

 

[Malachi]

But you did say in the OP, 'Jesus is on almost (if not all) every page of the OT'. That is a gross exaggeration - hyperbole.

Well look at it this way. Almost every page of the OT has the word LORD (YHWH) or LORD God (Yahweh Elohim), or God (Elohim), or the Almighty (El Shaddai). Those are all references to Christ, not in type or shadow but in reality.

But even the types and shadows are quite numerous (provided we are prepared to get beneath the surface, and look for deeper meanings in seemingly ordinary things or people). Christians generally do not get too involved with these things. Is Noah's Ark a type of Christ? Absolutely, although it is not referred to as such. We know that the Rock struck by Moses was a type of Christ. We can see Christ typified in the life of Joseph. And we could go on, and on.

 

[OzSpen]

A gross exaggeration is your opinion.

All of the old testament is filled with the types of Christ.

This is The Lounge it is here for light hearted discussion... If a discussion here brings up points someone thinks they need to set others straight on start a thread in the proper forum..
Admin.

 

[Edward]

here we go...

 

[OzSpen]

Gee let the guy see.what. God has just opened this to him .. Edward will see the types and shadows every where then his feet will hit ground again... I so remember when i learned something new in the Lord it is over whelming.. it is to be enjoyed...

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Reba,

It also is important to include 2 Tim 2:15 (NLT) in our understanding: 'Work hard so you can present yourself to God and receive his approval. Be a good worker, one who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly explains the word of truth'

Oz

 

[reba]

Edward i was a little kid yup i once was...In Sunday School we had the story of Baby Moses in his little basket and i saw the connection to Noah's ark ...And then the Arc of the covenant... Mommie Mommie guess what ..


What i came to understand is the Word of God is connected ... It is not a stack of readers digests bundled together... It is more then just His words

Enjoy what the Lord is showing you... Yea ya may go over board for a bit just enjoy it..

 

[OzSpen]

Take it to PM or another thread.. reba

 

[JohnDB]

Moses was Judgement Joshua was blessing
Elijah was Judgement Elisha was Blessing

David was Judgement but Soloman was blessing

John the Baptist was judgement but Jesus was blessing

Jesus had Jacob's deceptiveness, Joseph's emotions, Gideon's victory, Sampson's strength, Elisha's healing, Soloman's riches and wisdom, David and Caleb's zeal, Ezekiel's variety of vision, Isaiah's prophesy, and Daniel's dedication.
There are more...many more.

 

[OzSpen]

Take it to PM or another thread.. reba

You've deleted it so that I don't remember what I wrote. Could you please send me what you deleted in a PM so that I can start another thread?

Oz

Done reba