Unraveling Revelation: There Were Giants in the Earth in Those Days

[hawkman]

Genesis 6:1-4 records a strange incident in humanity’s distant past: Angels, called “sons of God,” saw that human women were desirable and chose to defy God by taking them as wives, producing the giant Nephilim. We explain why this was an actual event, and how the spirits of the Nephilim are prophesied to play a role in the end times as soldiers in the army of Antichrist.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

They are the evil spirits, aka the "legion" which Jesus performed exorcism upon - He drove them out of their host. These giants - aka Nephilim - were demonic offsprings of the "sons of God" as the result of their copulation with human females, read the verse closely and notice that they were on earth WHEN the sons of God came down and took human females as wives. I've had unfriendly debates with folks on this forum, unfortunately they just couldn't see it, they instead reserved the order by insisting that the Nephilim were already there, as though sons of God took wives when the Nephilim were around.

 

[ezrider]

Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

It seems I was always lead to picture these giants as behemoths like Goliath, great and tall. But what stands out to me is they became mighty men, men of renown. Elon Musk is not a tall man, but he certainly would fit the definition as a mighty man, a man of great renown.


Adam was created a Son of God. Could not his sons not also be called sons of God? As their father, they would have also possessed the knowledge of good and evil.

Genesis 6:5
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Did the possessing the knowledge of good and evil feed every imagination of the thoughts of mans heart?

As in the days of Noah, so shall it be... Today as we find printed in Bible, the knowledge of good and evil, it fills every imagination of man and the thoughts of heart....

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

It seems I was always lead to picture these giants as behemoths like Goliath, great and tall. But what stands out to me is they became mighty men, men of renown. Elon Musk is not a tall man, but he certainly would fit the definition as a mighty man, a man of great renown.


Adam was created a Son of God. Could not his sons not also be called sons of God? As their father, they would have also possessed the knowledge of good and evil.

Genesis 6:5
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Did the possessing the knowledge of good and evil feed every imagination of the thoughts of mans heart?

As in the days of Noah, so shall it be... Today as we find printed in Bible, the knowledge of good and evil, it fills every imagination of man and the thoughts of heart....

One word: Transhumanism. The distorting of man from the image of God into the image of the Beast.

 

[Marilyn C]

They are the evil spirits, aka the "legion" which Jesus performed exorcism upon - He drove them out of their host. These giants - aka Nephilim - were demonic offsprings of the "sons of God" as the result of their copulation with human females, read the verse closely and notice that they were on earth WHEN the sons of God came down and took human females as wives. I've had unfriendly debates with folks on this forum, unfortunately they just couldn't see it, they instead reserved the order by insisting that the Nephilim were already there, as though sons of God took wives when the Nephilim were around.

Angels, are SPIRITS, (Heb. 1: 13 & 14) They donot have sexual apparatus. God did not give them means of procreating and then say `don`t marry. (Matt. 22: 30)

The giants were just bullies as the Hebrew tells us. The `sons of God` were of the Seth line when men began to call on the name of the Lord. (Gen. 4: 26) Some of them went and married Cain`s descendants who were very wicked.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Angels, are SPIRITS, (Heb. 1: 13 & 14) They donot have sexual apparatus. God did not give them means of procreating and then say `don`t marry. (Matt. 22: 30)

The giants were just bullies as the Hebrew tells us. The `sons of God` were of the Seth line when men began to call on the name of the Lord. (Gen. 4: 26) Some of them went and married Cain`s descendants who were very wicked.

That is a totally false doctrine. When men began to call the name of the Lord, that was more than a thousand years ago before the flood, Gen. 4 and 6 are NOT in the same context. Don't take my word for it, count it yourself how many years and generations between Seth and Noah. At the time of the flood, everyone on earth was extremely wicked except Noah, so wicked that had grieved God. God doesn't drown his own sons and daughters in a Flood, he loves them and cares for them. Also, just because someone calls upon the name of the Lord doesn't mean they're holy and righteous.

Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. (Matt. 7:21)

Also, don't throw Matt. 22:30 at me, you once again forgot the setting - IN RESURRECTION. Was anybody in Noah's days in resurrection? And even though angels don't procreate, MEN do; angels appeared as men, therefore copulation with them is possible.

Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. (Gen. 19:1)
“Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally.”(Gen. 19:5)

 

[Marilyn C]

That is a totally false doctrine. When men began to call the name of the Lord, that was more than a thousand years ago before the flood, Gen. 4 and 6 are NOT in the same context. Don't take my word for it, count it yourself how many years and generations between Seth and Noah. At the time of the flood, everyone on earth was extremely wicked except Noah, so wicked that had grieved God. God doesn't drown his own sons and daughters in a Flood, he loves them and cares for them. Also, just because someone calls upon the name of the Lord doesn't mean they're holy and righteous.

Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. (Matt. 7:21)

Also, don't throw Matt. 22:30 at me, you once again forgot the setting - IN RESURRECTION. Was anybody in Noah's days in resurrection? And even though angels don't procreate, MEN do; angels appeared as men, therefore copulation with them is possible.

Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. (Gen. 19:1)
“Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally.”(Gen. 19:5)

The godly line of Seth -
Seth, Enosh, Kenan, Mahalalel, Jared, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah. (Gen. 4: 26. 5: 4 - 32)

These all died before the flood except Enoch who was translated and Noah taken through the flood.

Note also that angels taking on the form of man do not have the actual body of a human but a `covering ` as a form. And just because the men of Sodom thought the angels were actual men does not mean they actually had human bodies.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

The godly line of Seth -
Seth, Enosh, Kenan, Mahalalel, Jared, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah. (Gen. 4: 26. 5: 4 - 32)

These all died before the flood except Enoch who was translated and Noah taken through the flood.

We're not arguing about Noah's line. We're arguing about the "sons of God", whom you erroneously assumed to be the same ones who "called upon the name of the Lord", and this has been totally debunked. Noah was the one righteous exception among the wicked men of his generation who grieved God.

Note also that angels taking on the form of man do not have the actual body of a human but a `covering ` as a form. And just because the men of Sodom thought the angels were actual men does not mean they actually had human bodies.

No, they do have actual, functional human body, in the previous chapter those two angels rested and ate. They were not hologram images.

So he (Abraham) took butter and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and set it before them (the three men); and he stood by them under the tree as they ate. (Gen. 18:8)
Then the men rose from there and looked toward Sodom, and Abraham went with them to send them on the way. (Gen. 18:16)

 

[Marilyn C]

We're not arguing about Noah's line. We're arguing about the "sons of God", whom you erroneously assumed to be the same ones who "called upon the name of the Lord", and this has been totally debunked. Noah was the one righteous exception among the wicked men of his generation who grieved God.

No, they do have actual, functional human body, in the previous chapter those two angels rested and ate. They were not hologram images.

So he (Abraham) took butter and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and set it before them (the three men); and he stood by them under the tree as they ate. (Gen. 18:8)
Then the men rose from there and looked toward Sodom, and Abraham went with them to send them on the way. (Gen. 18:16)

Enoch was of Noah`s generation. He was righteous and God took him before the flood.

Angels cannot create life. They do not have the power to make themselves human. Only God gives life. (John 5: 26)

 

[Christ_empowered]

I vote for symbolic language. I think it’s super powerful wicked men terrorizing commoners.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Enoch was of Noah`s generation. He was righteous and God took him before the flood.

We're not arguing about any generation before Noah, the sons of God appeared in Noah's generation, you are just deflecting.

Angels cannot create life. They do not have the power to make themselves human. Only God gives life. (John 5: 26)

Procreation is not creation. And believe it or not, those two angels who visited Abraham and then Lot did make themselves human, they rested and ate, that's a scriptural fact. Lord Jesus, after his resurrection, also ate breakfast to show the skeptical disciple that he's real.

 

[Marilyn C]

We're not arguing about any generation before Noah, the sons of God appeared in Noah's generation, you are just deflecting.

Procreation is not creation. And believe it or not, those two angels who visited Abraham and then Lot did make themselves human, they rested and ate, that's a scriptural fact. Lord Jesus, after his resurrection, also ate breakfast to show the skeptical disciple that he's real.

Enoch was just before the flood.

We were talking about how fallen angels could not become human and now you go on to Jesus in His glorified body. Deflecting or just nonsense.

I am now stopping from any more discussion here.

 

[Free]

We're not arguing about Noah's line. We're arguing about the "sons of God", whom you erroneously assumed to be the same ones who "called upon the name of the Lord", and this has been totally debunked.

Where? It’s the most likely understanding. You make a strange assumption that the sons of God aren’t Noah’s line. What supports that assumption?

No, they do have actual, functional human body, in the previous chapter those two angels rested and ate.

And yet Jesus strongly implies that angels can’t procreate.

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. (ESV)

We're not arguing about any generation before Noah, the sons of God appeared in Noah's generation

Again, assumption. What supports this assumption?

Procreation is not creation.

You assume that angels are capable of procreation despite what Jesus said. If they can’t procreate, then you’re ascribing to them the power to create for themselves the ability to procreate, but that is only something God can do.

And believe it or not, those two angels who visited Abraham and then Lot did make themselves human,

Where does the Bible say that those two angels made themselves human?

 

[hawkman]

They do not have sexual apparatus.

There are no verses that state such a thing . Do you have anything to offer otherwise ?

God did not give them means of procreating and then say `don`t marry. (Matt. 22: 30)

Notice in the verse where the angels are that don't marry , Jesus could have said angels but he qualified where the angels were at "in heaven " , why would he do that ?

The `sons of God` were of the Seth line when men began to call on the name of the Lord.

Did you watch the video I posted ?

Every instance of "sons of God " in the old testament is talking about angels . Gen 6 , Job 1:6 , Job 2:1 and Job38:7 .

And yet Jesus strongly implies that angels can’t procreate.

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. (ESV)

Marriage is not prerequisite for procreation .
Notice in the verse where the angels are that don't marry , Jesus could have said angels but he qualified where the angels were at "in heaven " , why would he do that ?

Did you watch the video I posted ?

 

[hawkman]

Nephilim

Nephilim

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 6 (Parshah Bereishit and Noach)

www.chabad.org

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Enoch was just before the flood.

We were talking about how fallen angels could not become human and now you go on to Jesus in His glorified body. Deflecting or just nonsense.

I am now stopping from any more discussion here.

No, there was Methusela and Lamech between Enoch and Noah, he was not "just before the flood". Throughout this whole time you're making things up contrary to the Scripture.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Where? It’s the most likely understanding. You make a strange assumption that the sons of God aren’t Noah’s line. What supports that assumption?

Where are the assumption that sons of God ARE his line in the context of Gen 6?

And yet Jesus strongly implies that angels can’t procreate.

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. (ESV)

IN THE RESURRECTION and IN HEAVEN. Show me how the pre-flood world was like heaven or anybody at that time was in resurrection. Just because angels don't procreate in heaven doesn't mean their human form can't do so on earth.

Again, assumption. What supports this assumption?

NOW it came to pass in Noah's generation, Gen. 6:1. Purely unfounded assumption.

You assume that angels are capable of procreation despite what Jesus said. If they can’t procreate, then you’re ascribing to them the power to create for themselves the ability to procreate, but that is only something God can do.

Do men have the power to procreate? If so, then so do angels WHEN they take human form with human physiological functions, as they did in Gen. 18. What Jesus said was strictly limited in "resurrection" and "heaven", the pre-flood world in Gen. 6 was neither; also He never said they CAN'T - Jude 1:6 shows angels are able to leave their proper domain, they have free will.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Where does the Bible say that those two angels made themselves human?

Go read Gen. 18 and educate yourself, three men visited Abraham, the Lord and two angels. Abraham bargained with the Lord, the two angels headed to Sodom.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Nephilim

Nephilim

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 6 (Parshah Bereishit and Noach)

www.chabad.org

"Nephilim" were the giants the spies spotted in Canaan, Num. 13:33.

 

[Free]

Marriage is not prerequisite for procreation .

No, but it is sinful outside of marriage. If angels don’t marry, then they don’t procreate. If they don’t procreate, then there is no point in them having the ability to procreate among themselves, never mind with human women.

Notice in the verse where the angels are that don't marry , Jesus could have said angels but he qualified where the angels were at "in heaven " , why would he do that ?

Because we will be in heaven. It distinguishes our living on earth in sin with angels living without sin.

Did you watch the video I posted ?

I started but there was so much speculation that I gave up.