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Want to find your mind? Learn to direct your dreams

Evointrinsic

Evointrinsic

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I found this article quite interesting, it's about Lucid Dreaming. A lucid dream is where your asleep, yet your aware that you are dreaming. Even though your dreaming, your still conscious that you're dreaming. In this state you can bend your dreams to your will, manipulate them to do whatever you'd like and want. I've experienced this one or two times a while ago, but it seems that these are more frequent in some other people, namely my girlfriend (who almost always has lucid dreams). I read about this quite a long time ago and learned a few tricks that could help trigger lucid dreams more often than not.

After reading this article, it got me back in the mood to test out a few of these. The article itself offered a new way to try and trigger Lucid dreams (or REM [rapid eye movement] sleep), and it sounds like it may be a good possibility.

I often dream about things i was thinking about thoroughly while i was awake within the past few days, so perhaps this new technique may work for me.

There are a few other techniques I read about a while ago, one that stuck out most to me was writing "awake" (or whatever other word) on one of your palms, whenever you witness something that you thought was odd, such as a shadow that crossed the ceiling (probably caused by a car going by the window) and startled you a bit, you'd look at your hand and remind yourself that your awake.

This technique doesn't work for me unfortunately, I don't often get startled or find an odd incident. However, the article offers a new way i may be able to accomplish this feat.

AM I awake or am I dreaming?" I ask myself for probably the hundredth time. I am fully awake, just like all the other times I asked, and to be honest I am beginning to feel a bit silly. All week I have been performing this "reality check" in the hope that it will become so ingrained in my mind that I will start asking it in my dreams too.

If I succeed, I will have a lucid dream - a thrilling state of consciousness somewhere between waking and sleeping in which, unlike conventional dreams, you are aware that you are dreaming and able to control your actions. Once you have figured this out, the dream world is theoretically your oyster, and you can act out your fantasies to your heart's content.

Journalistic interest notwithstanding, I am pursuing lucid dreaming for entertainment. To some neuroscientists, however, the phenomenon is of profound interest, and they are using lucid dreamers to explore some of the weirder aspects of the brain's behaviour during the dream state (see "Dream mysteries"). Their results are even shedding light on the way our brains produce our rich and complex conscious experience.
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http://www.newscientist.com/article...nd-your-mind-learn-to-direct-your-dreams.html

Has anyone else had a lucid dream before? Or knows of any other ways to have one?
 
I often have them, often i can trigger them. Sometimes when asleep i wake up if only for a second, (noise, or to turn over etc) and in that brief moment the dream i was having is put on pause then when i fall asleep i am aware that i am dreaming and then the dream manipulation starts. :D
 
I dreamt I was a shetland pony. The next day I woke up a little hoarse.
 
evo i do this all the time, it's nothing for me to do that.

while i cant control or make a dream, i can stop one and not let it occur again that night.
 
Evointrinsic said:
faithtransforms said:
I could care less about finding my own mind! I want to know God's mind!!!!
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perhaps it's easier to do so through your dreams?
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the gift of dream interpration is under the gift of prophecy, but that is rare.

i have had visions but never a dream that needed to be interpreted.
 
... I'm not sure what this has to do with lucid dreaming. In a lucid dream your in control of it, you know that your dreaming and what you dream is what you make yourself dream. A dream interpretation is of a dream that you thought may have a hidden message to it. If there's a hidden message, than you never had complete control.

If lucid dreaming was even a possible way of getting closer to god, would you at least try it?
 
Evointrinsic said:
... I'm not sure what this has to do with lucid dreaming. In a lucid dream your in control of it, you know that your dreaming and what you dream is what you make yourself dream. A dream interpretation is of a dream that you thought may have a hidden message to it. If there's a hidden message, than you never had complete control.

If lucid dreaming was even a possible way of getting closer to god, would you at least try it?
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its not. unless its given by the lord, to which i have some dreams come to pass to the t. i dreamt of camp blanding . fl and what the barracks looked like and where i would tell a soldier about the need to get saved. and when i was talking to him he leaned against a post.

all that came to be true.
 
and how do you know this isn't a way? Have you ever tried? conducted any tests? verified anything? You seem to be very sure, so you have to have some reason for your claim?
 
Be careful, for you're getting into borderline occult stuff with consciously trying to control your dreams.

And since Biblically God can communicate something to us using dreams, why would a Christian want to consciously manipulate it? My mother had pre-cognitive dreams of things that were going to happen, and they did happen. They were warnings for her and people around her. Most of our dreams are triggered by things around us anyway, or by something weighing heavy on our mind.
 
occult!?! How is conscious dreaming at all occult-like? It's not magic or out of the ordinary knowledge or understanding or even at all supernatural. If we can obtain the ability to consciously navigate through our dreams, and god can communicate using our dreams, than why not use our dreams to get closer to god?

After all, the age old argument for god is that he doesn't exist within our physical realm, right? Why would it be not worth it to try to get in touch with him using a non-physical realm?
 
Evointrinsic said:
and how do you know this isn't a way? Have you ever tried? conducted any tests? verified anything? You seem to be very sure, so you have to have some reason for your claim?
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becuause no mentioning of it is in the bible, only prophetic visions that the men daniel and joseph have interpreted.

thats it.

veteran is right. what you describe is similar to the meditation that i used to try and used to control my dreams. that was endorsed by witches, and to me is witchcraft like.
 
I hate to break it to you, but there are a lot of things that aren't mentioned in the bible. And a lot of those things we know are in fact true. A lot of those things you already believe in.

Repetition has been known to go alongside with meditation, correct, however that doesn't mean meditation made repetition up. There is a bit of psychology on repetition as well, in fact.

That doesn't mean it is witchcraft or even related to it, though. You are not all of a sudden a witch because you said to yourself "I gotta get eggs, I gotta get eggs, I gotta get eggs" before going out for groceries. The claim in itself is ridiculous. Why are we even arguing about it? Repetition helps ingrain a memory better than simply trying to remember it once. This is a fact and I'm am very sure you've done it at some point. In this case how ever, we are merely repeating it more often. That's it... There is no magic involved, your not involved in any witchcraft or refinance of witchcraft, it simply has nothing to do with it. Period...

Back to the main topic however, your saying that you would not even bother giving it a try simply because it wasn't said in the bible? You would give up on trying to find a new, possibly better way of contact with god because of this?
 
You being an Atheist wouldn't understand the spirit world, its a place where demons look for someone like you, its called having a familiar spirit...

My advice? close this thread better yet delete it, so that young Christians don't fall into the trap..

turnorburn
 
Evo,

It's not that hard to control your own dreams, the majority of the dreams I can recall are dreams that I have control over.

Frankly, I do not want to control my own dreams. I do not remember dreams when I wake up, except for the ones I have some control over and ones from God. Now, if I could only get rid of those stupid dreams I control then all I would have left are the dreams the Lord seeds.

How do I know these dreams that you control are not going to be the way the Lord talks to me? When God talks He is in control. Not you. When God seeds a dream He already KNOWS what it is you will see in the dream.
 
turnorburn said:
You being an Atheist wouldn't understand the spirit world, its a place where demons look for someone like you, its called having a familiar spirit...

My advice? close this thread better yet delete it, so that young Christians don't fall into the trap..
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The spirit world...?... As in dreams?

Thanks, but not thanks, I'll keep the thread open.

Pard: It may not be hard for you, but it is intensely difficult for me. Why is it not possible for God to want you to control your dreams? Maybe it's a gift for you? Perhaps you were meant to create something within them that will show you something and he has foreseen it?

The point is, all of this is speculation. We can't know what god has planned for us or what isn't within his plan (or as some people would say everything is gods plan).

Heck this thread wasn't even supposed to be about god, I was just curious to know if anyone else has experienced this type of dream before and/or knows how to be able to have more of them.
 
Oh, in that case...

yes, they are the only dreams I can recall, usually. The easiest way to do it is to be very tired and be immune to alarm clocks. Set the alarm for a time after you are a sleep and then when it goes off you cone back a little and when you fall back to sleep you will be in control...

For me all I have to do is start dreaming before I am asleep, like day dreaming, and when I do fall asleep I am still in control, just like you are in control during a day dream.

By the by, I an always tired when I wake up from these dreams...
 
Thank you Pard, That makes a lot of sense actually. If i can remember correctly from an article i read about REM Sleep, it occurs exactly how you've said. REM sleep means Rapid Eye Movement, and is usually connected to Lucid Dreaming. Basically when your in a very deep sleep/dream your eyes move faster than they do in a normal dream (i am not too sure why). And for some reason this can cause Lucid Dreams.

I'll have to attempt that as well then :) Thanks!
 
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