• CFN has a new look and a new theme

    "I bore you on eagle's wings, and brought you to Myself" (Exodus 19:4)

    More new themes will be coming in the future!

  • Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?

    Join For His Glory for a discussion on how

    https://christianforums.net/threads/a-vessel-of-honor.110278/

  • CFN welcomes new contributing members!

    Please welcome Roberto and Julia to our family

    Blessings in Christ, and hope you stay awhile!

  • Have questions about the Christian faith?

    Come ask us what's on your mind in Questions and Answers

    https://christianforums.net/forums/questions-and-answers/

  • Read the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ?

    Read through this brief blog, and receive eternal salvation as the free gift of God

    /blog/the-gospel

  • Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need

    https://christianforums.net/threads/psalm-70-1-save-me-o-god-lord-help-me-now.108509/

  • Focus on the Family

    Strengthening families through biblical principles.

    Focus on the Family addresses the use of biblical principles in parenting and marriage to strengthen the family.

Was Christ Tempted to Sin ?

  • Thread starter Thread starter savedbygrace57
  • Start date Start date
Time for an analogy?

Let's test some material; we can call it "material X".
Mount the material into the testing apparatus, apply test, try to determine failure point. WOW -- this stuff is godly! Nothing we can do to it can cause it to fail.

Okay, now let's construct a thought experiment.

Even though material X didn't fail, could we say that it was caused to feel stress? Was it "tested"? Yep, our guys in the testing lab assure us it was. But was it tested sufficiently? Let's send it back for more testing, shall we?

Okay, now that our material "X" has been completely tested by the guys who know how to test stuff - and even though it has not failed, it has proven itself, that it can endure all the testing we can throw at it.

It knows what it's like to be tested.
We can say that this material is sympathetic to the testing process.

Now, can we take the elements that give it the ability to withstand tests and apply them to other materials? Can we transfer the qualities and properties found in our material to other similar (but not identical) materials?

Well, maybe we can - and maybe we can't. That's beside the point because an analogy lines up in some ways, but not in every way. We are told that we are to have the mind of Christ, and that we are given the very same Spirit, further, we are told that when we follow the Spirit, we shall in no wise fulfill the lusts of the flesh. [Gal 5:14-26], [Rom 13:14]

So we have before us a way to follow so that we too can inherit eternal life.

Does it matter if Jesus (the tested material) was proven true? You bet it does. Does it matter if he is sympathetic to the testing process and that he has been tested in every way, like as we? It does, because our "material X" that has been tested is a man, who is also serving a function as our High Priest, making intercession for us.

Was it possible for Jesus to fail? Doesn't matter (except for those who enjoy thought experiments that don't reflect reality) because the reality is that Jesus (the man) was tested and there was no sin. So no matter what we think, the reality is that there is no sin in the Son of God. Never was, never will be. Death could not hold Him. Jesus is the Eternal King. If somebody wants to come and argue that the implication of testing something includes the possibility of failure (as a philosophical thesis) -- okay, no problem, as long as we allow for the reality that no failure was found. Tested true does not mean anything less than tested and found true and in the case of our Lord, Jesus - He was found true and pronounced that way by God before [and after] He was tested.

Matthew 3:17 and lo! a voice out of the heavens,--saying, This, is my Son, the Beloved, in whom I delight.
(Rotherham)
Matthew 17:5 While yet he was speaking, lo! a brightly shining cloud, overshadowed them, and lo! a voice, out of the cloud, saying--This, is, my Son, the Beloved, in whom I delight,--Be hearkening to him.
(Rotherham)
Luke 9:35-37 35 And, a voice, came out of the cloud, saying--This, is my Son, the Chosen One: Unto him, be hearkening. 36 And, when the voice came, there was found, Jesus alone. And they held their peace, and, unto no one, reported they, in those days, any of the things which they had seen.
(Rotherham)
2 Peter 1:17 For, when he received from God the Father honour and glory, a voice, being borne to him such as this, by the magnificent glory--My Son, the beloved, is, this, in whom, I, delight,
(Rotherham)
 
Time for an analogy?

Let's test some material; we can call it "material X".
Mount the material into the testing apparatus, apply test, try to determine failure point. WOW -- this stuff is godly! Nothing we can do to it can cause it to fail.

Okay, now let's construct a thought experiment.

Even though material X didn't fail, could we say that it was caused to feel stress? Was it "tested"? Yep, our guys in the testing lab assure us it was. But was it tested sufficiently? Let's send it back for more testing, shall we?

Okay, now that our material "X" has been completely tested by the guys who know how to test stuff - and even though it has not failed, it has proven itself, that it can endure all the testing we can throw at it.

It knows what it's like to be tested.
We can say that this material is sympathetic to the testing process.

Now, can we take the elements that give it the ability to withstand tests and apply them to other materials? Can we transfer the qualities and properties found in our material to other similar (but not identical) materials?

Well, maybe we can - and maybe we can't. That's beside the point because an analogy lines up in some ways, but not in every way. We are told that we are to have the mind of Christ, and that we are given the very same Spirit, further, we are told that when we follow the Spirit, we shall in no wise fulfill the lusts of the flesh. [Gal 5:14-26], [Rom 13:14]

So we have before us a way to follow so that we too can inherit eternal life.

Does it matter if Jesus (the tested material) was proven true? You bet it does. Does it matter if he is sympathetic to the testing process and that he has been tested in every way, like as we? It does, because our "material X" that has been tested is a man, who is also serving a function as our High Priest, making intercession for us.

Was it possible for Jesus to fail? Doesn't matter (except for those who enjoy thought experiments that don't reflect reality) because the reality is that Jesus (the man) was tested and there was no sin. So no matter what we think, the reality is that there is no sin in the Son of God. Never was, never will be. Death could not hold Him. Jesus is the Eternal King. If somebody wants to come and argue that the implication of testing something includes the possibility of failure (as a philosophical thesis) -- okay, no problem, as long as we allow for the reality that no failure was found. Tested true does not mean anything less than tested and found true and in the case of our Lord, Jesus - He was found true and pronounced that way by God before [and after] He was tested.

Not bad, not bad at all!
 
Most religious people think that Christ was a Man in the very same exact sense as we were, that is,a sinner. Jesus was not a sinner and could not have been enticed to sin as sinners are. Yes He was Tempted externally to sin by outside elements, but He was not enticed inwardly by inward lusts.

In fact, Christ was so sin free that if He was not put to death,He would have never died a Natural Death as other men do, because physical and Natural Death are the wages of sin !
 
Back
Top