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Was Jesus in danger of judgment?

veryberry

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Matthew 5: 22 - But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca ,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell. - NIV

Did Jesus not get angry several times? Here is an example...

Mark 3: 5 - He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored. - NIV

Now Jesus is either a hypocrite( which He continuously calls the pharasees and scribes) and in danger of judgment or something is wrong here....
 
No Jesus is God and he can only be Godly.... His judgements are righteous.
 
Your quotation might be incomplete. Here's how it is found in the KJV.
M't:5:22: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:

Also notice that it says anyone who is angry is "in danger of the judgment." It doesn't say the judgment will come but that it could if we are not careful.

I personally don't believe anger in and of itself or even to be angry at someone is a sin. What we do with that anger on the other hand is a different matter and that's where the dange lies. When we allow that anger to control us and use it to hurt others either physically, emotionally, spiritually, or to curse them we are in danger of the judgment.

When we read those scriptures where Jesus expressed anger or discontent we find that he didn't use his anger against those he was angry with but to teach, correct, help, and warn them.

We on the other hand like to use anger to curse others, get even with others, take revenge against others, or even hurt or kill others.
 
Very Good, Other new age bibles(every single one to be exact), omit the words of truth "without a cause" which makes it much more understandable with no confusion.
 
Very Good, Other new age bibles(every single one to be exact), omit the words of truth "without a cause" which makes it much more understandable with no confusion.
The NIV is not a "new age" Bible, nor are any of the others.
 
Just sounds like your a little confused is all, that's an easy fix, have you taken your question up with him, because God is not the author of confusion he'll set you straight.. :agreed

tob
 
"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell. (NASB)
The King James is a time proven, thought for thought, 17th century version of the Bible and it was my first Bible. I prefer the NASB because it is, just about, as close as we can get to a word for word translation. If this one verse is read in it's context and is not ripped from the context, the thought expressed in the KJV is easy to see. Jesus is the Third Person of the Triune God and could never have sinned and could never have been in any Eternal Danger.
 
No Jesus is God and he can only be Godly.... His judgements are righteous.
Yes, if anyone has the right and authority to get angry at sin it's God.

12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?" (James 4:12 NASB)

God is the righteous Judge, not us. That's why, generally speaking, angry judgment is his privilege, not ours.

When we get angry at sin it's usually because our comfort zone has been invaded in some way. That invasion is still wrong, but our motivations for getting angry at sin very often have a component of self interest attached that make our judgments less than completely righteous compared to God's judgments.

He's not doing wrong when he gets angry. He's able to do that in a complete righteousness. Not so true for us mere mortals always thinking about and guarding our comfort zones. Our judgments are tainted by self interest.
 
Very Good, Other new age bibles(every single one to be exact), omit the words of truth "without a cause" which makes it much more understandable with no confusion.
I wonder if the phrase is not found in all manuscripts, and that's why it gets relegated to a footnote. Which, if that's the reason for leaving it out or making it a footnote, is really just being honest.
 
This subject dovetails nicely with the story about Jesus turning the tables over and driving out the merchants at the Temple. Some say he was being an ungodly jerk. I say he's being God who executes righteous judgments. We go wrong when we think we can start flipping tables over and getting angry because we're sure someone is in the wrong in the church. We like to call that our 'righteous indignation'. Which is probably only half true (the indignation part).
 
I wonder if the phrase is not found in all manuscripts, and that's why it gets relegated to a footnote. Which, if that's the reason for leaving it out or making it a footnote, is really just being honest.
Good morning JB. I have, certainly, not read all the translations and I do not speak Koine Greek but having dealt with three other languages while in the Army and living in SE Texas, I understand why, almost, everyone does a thought for thought translation of many phrases. Some words do not translate well. A good example is Gesundheit. In it's native language, German, one common usage is for health and another, more, common usage of it, around the world, is God bless you when someone sneezes. During the European Black Plague it was used to say "May God bless you and may you not die." Another good one is "Der hundt is los" (long time out of Germany and spelling? ) used to answer "What's up?" Translated it is something like "The dog is happening." (somebody that is, currently, may correct me but this is from the early sixties)

All that being said, I'm thrilled to see one your age so interested in scripture. You are likely aware of the, false, theology of KJV only but as I have studied and taught I have found that these expressions of discontent, most, often come from the subscribers to this Man Made Theology and contending with these folks is, directly, akin to bashing one's head against a brick wall.

God bless, my brother.
 
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