We are at the end, Iran and Israel war.

[miamited]

Hi Niblo

Good explanations. However, just as we have here in English, the word 'god' can reference the one true God or other man-made gods. So, similarly in the Arabic world, the subject of the word 'allah' has to be determined to know whether the person, the actual human being who is saying the word, is speaking of the God of this created realm, or some god that has been made up in the minds of some.

Yes, 'christian' Arabic people, when using the word 'allah', should be referencing the God of the Jewish Scriptures. However, the one who speaks of the god who has no son, or the god who instructs some to kill or hurt others, that is the god of the Muslim practice of faith, are not. So, just as here, it must be determined of the person who says the word 'god/allah' if they are speaking from or about the God of the Jewish Scriptures or the god of the Muslim faith. The two faiths each have different teachings to be followed or addressed.

 

[miamited]

Well, if they had not been getting around that agreement and dishonest in gaining the nuclear means, then that 'covenant' would have been useful. But they have been cheating since the very beginning, and even know they will go right back to it.

Cheating how? As far as I'm aware, up until the ending of the agreement, Iran was following it by not creating weapons grade nuclear material. No one's even sure now if Iran has produced any weapons grade nuclear material. Just as it is here, many companies work with nuclear material, but it's not weapons grade. Some people see the word 'nuclear' and immediately think BOMB!!! But there are other uses of nuclear material, that still needs to have manufacturing processes done to it to make if usable for various purposes. We don't just pick up some nuclear rock from the earth and stick it into a building and have a nuclear power plant. The material must be processed into the rods that the power generation of the plant requires. The agreement with Iran was broken in 2018. That's seven years now that Iran has had, since we broke the agreement, to work with nuclear material however they wanted to since there was no agreement that they wouldn't.

 

[miamited]

In the Bible I read Ted, the ten tribes comprising the Kingdom of Israel were scatter in Judgement through the Assyrians. Then the Kingdom of Judah was carried off in Judgment through the Babylonians, Then they returned to the land as promised, and in the process fulfilled the 70 weeks of Daniel. Then in 70AD they were scattered to the four corners again in Judgement through the Roman empire.

Hi ezrider

Yes, Israel has been taken off of their land in previous times, but only in the last scattering that you speak of, were they scattered among all the nations and islands of the earth. They have only been recalled now once, since that scattering that Jeremiah is obviously speaking of. That began in 1948, which also fulfills a Scriptural prophecy. 1948 works out to be exactly the year that the Scriptures foretold that God's punishment against Israel would end, based on the words of God concerning the length of their punishment.

 

[ezrider]

That began in 1948, which also fulfills a Scriptural prophecy.

Please site the exact scripture you believe identifies this as prophecy.

 

[miamited]

Please site the exact scripture you believe identifies this as prophecy.

It involves a couple of pieces of Scripture. First is Ezekiel's writing to us that God commanded him to lie on his side. On his left side and then his right side. God told Ezekiel to lie on his side for a total of 430 years to represent the years of punishment that He had ascribed to Israel for their disobedience. God then gave the Israelites over to Babylon for their punishment, but that punishment was only 70 of the 430 years. Then God allowed the Israelites to go back to their land through the work of Cyrus, king of Persia. However, the majority of the Jews did not return.

So, then God put upon them the full punishment that He had warned them of in giving them the law in the wilderness.

Leviticus 26:18
18 'And after all this, if you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

So God multiplied their punishment left of 360 years times 7. 7 times 360 is 2,520 years of punishment remaining for Israel. Here's a full calculation of the prophetic punishment that God placed upon Isreal:

The Babylonian captivity ended in the spring of 536 B.C.E., 1st Nisan. This date is the starting point for our calculations. The period of worldwide captivity would last 2,520 biblical years x360 days = 907,200 days. Converting this figure into our calendar year we divide the 907,200 days by 365.25 to reach a total of
2,483.8 calendar years. (Remember that there is only one year between 1 B.C.E. and 1 C.E.; there was no Year Zero). The end of Israel's worldwide captivity would occur after a total of 2,483.8 years had elapsed from the end of the Babylonian Captivity in the spring of 536 B.C.E.

End of Babylonian Captivity: Spring 536 B.C.E. + the duration of Worldwide Captivity: 2,483.8 Calendar Years = When the Worldwide Captivity would end: Spring 1948.

Now, I fully understand that not everyone understands this prophecy to work out in that manner, but it sure is a really strong coincidence that God's telling Israel that He would multiply their punishment times 7 and it just happens to work out to 1948. Me, I believe that God had established 1948 as the year in which He would restore His people to Israel... and He did.

 

[ezrider]

It involves a couple of pieces of Scripture. First is Ezekiel's writing to us that God commanded him to lie on his side. On his left side and then his right side. God told Ezekiel to lie on his side for a total of 430 years to represent the years of punishment that He had ascribed to Israel for their disobedience. God then gave the Israelites over to Babylon for their punishment, but that punishment was only 70 of the 430 years. Then God allowed the Israelites to go back to their land through the work of Cyrus, king of Persia. However, the majority of the Jews did not return.

So, then God put upon them the full punishment that He had warned them of in giving them the law in the wilderness.

Leviticus 26:18
18 'And after all this, if you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

So God multiplied their punishment left of 360 years times 7. 7 times 360 is 2,520 years of punishment remaining for Israel. Here's a full calculation of the prophetic punishment that God placed upon Isreal:

So it's not an actual prophecy, just a game of numerology. Got it.

 

[miamited]

So it's not an actual prophecy, just a game of numerology. Got it.

Well, there are quite a few of God's prophecies that are all about numerology. Daniel chapter 9 is likely one of the most well-known. God doesn't tell us that Messiah will be here in A.D. 32. One has to count up the years and add them together and determine the start and so forth. So, you're free to see it as you will, but a mere claim that "Oh, it's just numerology", may not be the best excuse for discounting what God has written.

 

[ezrider]

Well, there are quite a few of God's prophecies that are all about numerology. Daniel chapter 9 is likely one of the most well-known.

Yes and no. Daniel chapter 9 is about one specific time period of 490 years, which was a prophecy about Christ, the coming of the Messiah and the confirmation of the covenant the God swore in an oath with Abraham which was completed during the 70th week of Daniel. It was fulfilled in Christ. From His baptism in the wilderness to the stoning of Stephen, and in the midst of the week He was cut off, not for himself, but for the sins of the world.

The Law and the prophets spoke of the coming of Christ. But when you search the prophets, you look for the coming of an anti-christ.

When I say numerology, it's not like Daniel, but what you did. You took a passage from Ezekiel and then tried joining it to something else from the book of Leviticus, do a little math magic, and hey look at that, you've divined the year 1948. See, its right there in the word. Only it isn't!

If God's declared punishment in Ezekiel was for 430 years, and then he multiplied that punishment by 7 according to Leviticus, then the punishment would have been for 7x430, not 7x360. (7x430)-70 = 2940......

 

[miamited]

Yes

I'm glad that we could agree on that.

Only it isn't!

Uh, yes it is.

“Then lie on your left side and put the sin of the people of Israel upon yourself. You are to bear their sin for the number of days you lie on your side. I have assigned you the same number of days as the years of their sin. So for 390 days you will bear the sin of the people of Israel.

“After you have finished this, lie down again, this time on your right side, and bear the sin of the people of Judah. I have assigned you 40 days, a day for each year. Turn your face toward the siege of Jerusalem and with bared arm prophesy against her. I will tie you up with ropes so that you cannot turn from one side to the other until you have finished the days of your siege. Ezekiel 4:4-8

If, however, you fail to obey Me and to carry out all these commandments, and if you reject My statutes, despise My ordinances, and neglect to carry out all My commandments, and so break My covenant, then this is what I will do to you: I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting disease, and fever that will destroy your sight and drain your life. You will sow your seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it. And I will set My face against you, so that you will be defeated by your enemies. Those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee when no one pursues you.

And if after all this you will not obey Me, I will proceed to punish you sevenfold for your sins. I will break down your stubborn pride and make your sky like iron and your land like bronze, and your strength will be spent in vain. For your land will not yield its produce, and the trees of the land will not bear their fruit.

If you walk in hostility toward Me and refuse to obey Me, I will multiply your plagues seven times, according to your sins. I will send wild animals against you to rob you of your children, destroy your livestock, and reduce your numbers, until your roads lie desolate.

And if in spite of these things you do not accept My discipline, but continue to walk in hostility toward Me, then I will act with hostility toward you, and I will strike you sevenfold for your sins. And I will bring a sword against you to execute the vengeance of the covenant. Though you withdraw into your cities, I will send a plague among you, and you will be delivered into the hand of the enemy. When I cut off your supply of bread, ten women will bake your bread in a single oven and dole out your bread by weight, so that you will eat but not be satisfied.

But if in spite of all this you do not obey Me, but continue to walk in hostility toward Me, then I will walk in fury against you, and I, even I, will punish you sevenfold for your sins. You will eat the flesh of your own sons and daughters. I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and heap your lifeless bodies on the lifeless remains of your idols; and My soul will despise you. Leviticus 26:14-30

I don't know what translation you're using, but these are the words God gave unto Israel recorded in my translation. He promised punishments upon Israel for 430 years and He said that if Israel still chose to not follow His commands and decrees, after initially punishing them, that He would multiply said punishments seven times.

It's all there. And it does point to 1948 and lo and behold the Israelites were granted the rights to their land by the nations in 1948. As I said, you can call this coincidence but for times to come together over some 2500 years that matches exactly what God's word has said about this specific length of time seems more prophetic to me than coincidental. But certainly to each his own.

 

[ezrider]

I'm glad that we could agree on that.

Uh, yes it is.

“Then lie on your left side and put the sin of the people of Israel upon yourself. You are to bear their sin for the number of days you lie on your side. I have assigned you the same number of days as the years of their sin. So for 390 days you will bear the sin of the people of Israel.

“After you have finished this, lie down again, this time on your right side, and bear the sin of the people of Judah. I have assigned you 40 days, a day for each year. Turn your face toward the siege of Jerusalem and with bared arm prophesy against her. I will tie you up with ropes so that you cannot turn from one side to the other until you have finished the days of your siege. Ezekiel 4:4-8

If, however, you fail to obey Me and to carry out all these commandments, and if you reject My statutes, despise My ordinances, and neglect to carry out all My commandments, and so break My covenant, then this is what I will do to you: I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting disease, and fever that will destroy your sight and drain your life. You will sow your seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it. And I will set My face against you, so that you will be defeated by your enemies. Those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee when no one pursues you.

And if after all this you will not obey Me, I will proceed to punish you sevenfold for your sins. I will break down your stubborn pride and make your sky like iron and your land like bronze, and your strength will be spent in vain. For your land will not yield its produce, and the trees of the land will not bear their fruit.

If you walk in hostility toward Me and refuse to obey Me, I will multiply your plagues seven times, according to your sins. I will send wild animals against you to rob you of your children, destroy your livestock, and reduce your numbers, until your roads lie desolate.

And if in spite of these things you do not accept My discipline, but continue to walk in hostility toward Me, then I will act with hostility toward you, and I will strike you sevenfold for your sins. And I will bring a sword against you to execute the vengeance of the covenant. Though you withdraw into your cities, I will send a plague among you, and you will be delivered into the hand of the enemy. When I cut off your supply of bread, ten women will bake your bread in a single oven and dole out your bread by weight, so that you will eat but not be satisfied.

But if in spite of all this you do not obey Me, but continue to walk in hostility toward Me, then I will walk in fury against you, and I, even I, will punish you sevenfold for your sins. You will eat the flesh of your own sons and daughters. I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and heap your lifeless bodies on the lifeless remains of your idols; and My soul will despise you. Leviticus 26:14-30

I don't know what translation you're using, but these are the words God gave unto Israel recorded in my translation. He promised punishments upon Israel for 430 years and He said that if Israel still chose to not follow His commands and decrees, after initially punishing them, that He would multiply said punishments seven times.

It's all there. And it does point to 1948 and lo and behold the Israelites were granted the rights to their land by the nations in 1948. As I said, you can call this coincidence but for times to come together over some 2500 years that matches exactly what God's word has said about this specific length of time seems more prophetic to me than coincidental. But certainly to each his own.

You still haven't addressed that your math is completely wrong. If the punishment was for 430 years, then 7 times the punishment would have been 7 times 430, not 7 times 360. You have not accounted for the remaining 420 years in your equation, rendering 1948 quite irrelevant in this aspect. Was it prophesied that they would fly the Star of Remphan on their flag too?

I don't know what translation you're using, but in the one that I have there is no gap between the 69th and 70th weeks of Daniel 9. In this dispensational punishment timeline that you have concocted, are you not still waiting upon the 70th week to be fulfilled?

Does the State of Israel live in peace? Or are they still being punished? For a war-mongering people after they attached the state of Iran, it wasn't God who showed himself and protected Israel from the incoming missiles that caused great damage, it was the the United Stated military.

 

[Fish153]

No. Where are you getting that Christ has reigned on this earth for 1,000 years already?

Hidden---- I think he is a "preterist". I picked that up in another thread where we were having a discussion about Israel. Christ HAS NOT reigned on the earth for 1000 years already. The MILLENIUM is the 1000 years when Jesus will reign upon the earth. It is also DURING this 1000 year reign that Satan will be cast into the abyss (an angel will chain him). AFTER the MILLENIUM Satan is again released "for a little while" (see Revelation 20) and he deceives the earth until he is finally destroyed and thrown into the Lake of Fire forever. His argument about Israel is futile because if Israel is Satan (as he claims) then why is Satan trying to destroy Satan? Most of the world is set against Israel right now due to Satanic influence, just as they were in the past when the Holocaust occurred.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Hidden---- I think he is a "preterist". I picked that up in another thread where we were having a discussion about Israel. Christ HAS NOT reigned on the earth for 1000 years already. The MILLENIUM is the 1000 years when Jesus will reign upon the earth. It is also DURING this 1000 year reign that Satan will be cast into the abyss (an angel will chain him). AFTER the MILLENIUM Satan is again released "for a little while" (see Revelation 20) and he deceives the earth until he is finally destroyed and thrown into the Lake of Fire forever. His argument about Israel is futile because if Israel is Satan (as he claims) then why is Satan trying to destroy Satan? Most of the world is set against Israel right now due to Satanic influence, just as they were in the past when the Holocaust occurred.

Thank you, fish. I would still need explanation because the typical Preterist position applied here would have Him reigning for two thousand years now, not one. But I appreciate it.
- H

 

[Alfred Persson]

It seems Iran went out and got enriched uranium so was weeks from getting it to weapons grade of 90% and they had the missiles or bombs ready to put it into and use on Israel. So they needed to do a preemptive strike or face nuclear annihilation days or weeks away, as Iran will not stop till it gets it to nuclear weapons grade and use it.

"VIENNA (AP) — Iran has further increased its stockpile of uranium enriched to near weapons-grade levels, a confidential report by the U.N. nuclear watchdog said Saturday. In a separate report, the agency called on Tehran to urgently change course and comply with its years-long probe.

The report comes at a sensitive time, as the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump seeks to reach a deal with Tehran to limit its nuclear program. The two sides have held several rounds of talks, so far without agreement.

The report by the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency — which was seen by The Associated Press — says that as of May 17, Iran has amassed 408.6 kilograms (900.8 pounds) of uranium enriched up to 60%.

That’s an increase of 133.8 kilograms (294.9 pounds) — or almost 50% — since the IAEA’s last report in February. The 60% enriched material is a short, technical step away from weapons-grade levels of 90%. A report in February put this stockpile level at 274.8 kilograms (605.8 pounds)...

Approximately 42 kilograms of 60% enriched uranium is theoretically enough to produce one atomic bomb, if enriched further to 90%, according to the watchdog.

The IAEA report, a quarterly, also estimated that as of May 17, Iran’s overall stockpile of enriched uranium — which includes uranium enriched to lower levels — stood at 9,247.6 kilograms (20,387.4 pounds). That’s an increase of 953.2 kilograms (2,101.4 pounds) since February’s report.


Iran has maintained its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only, but the IAEA chief, Rafael Mariano Grossi, has warned that Tehran has enough uranium enriched to near-weapons-grade levels to make “several” nuclear bombs if it chose to do so.."
https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-iaea-uranium-7f6c9962c1e4199e951559096bcf5cc0.

"..Here’s what it means to enrich uranium – and why it raises concerns in Iran-Israel conflict

According to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iran has enriched large quantities of uranium to 60 per cent. It’s actually easier to go from an enrichment of 60 per cent to 90 per

Late last week, Israel targeted three of Iran’s key nuclear facilities – Natanz, Isfahan and Fordow – killing several Iranian nuclear scientists.

The facilities are heavily fortified and largely underground, and there are conflicting reports of how much damage has been done.

Natanz and Fordow are Iran’s uranium enrichment sites, and Isfahan provides the raw materials, so any damage to these sites would limit Iran’s ability to produce nuclear weapons."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-israel-uranium-enrichment-b2770714.html.

"..Iran has enriched uranium for 10 nuclear bombs, continues production
A confidential report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), obtained by The Wall Street Journal, confirms that Iran has continued producing high-level enriched uranium. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office responded, saying: "The report proves that Iran's goal is to develop a nuclear weapons program. The world must stop it....
Despite ongoing nuclear talks with the United States, Iran has continued enriching uranium at a pace sufficient to yield enough material for one nuclear bomb per month, according to The Wall Street Journal, which cited an IAEA document circulated to member states."

Iran has enriched uranium for 10 nuclear bombs, continues production

A confidential report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), obtained by The Wall Street Journal, confirms that Iran has continued producing

www.israelhayom.com

"When Israel launched its series of strikes against Iran last week, it also issued a number of dire warnings about the country’s nuclear program, suggesting Iran was fast approaching a point of no return in its quest to obtain nuclear weapons and that the strikes were necessary to preempt that outcome."

MSN

Iran's response to their total defeat proves PM Netanyahu and Trump right, Iran WOULD use Nukes if they had them. The IRGC is a religious death cult that believes they will survive total war, and be praised by Allah.

Sane rulers would have entered peace negotiations so rebuilding and healing could begin. But they are not sane. They have doubled down on the delusion they will ultimately win.

To stay in power they are spreading the lie they won the war----lest the shame of their defeat cause the masses to lose all respect for them.

Their vow to continue enriching is proof Regime Change is the only long term solution.

Given the way Netanyahu and Trump fooled Iran (and Hamas), I think the present Ceasefire only restrains Iran. The Mossad hasn't stopped taking out targets and the Ayatollah is still hiding in his bunker. The IRGC is terrified of being assassinated while Israel "reloads" for The 12 Day War Part II. And Israel isn't getting hit with more missiles by Iran. Genius (for Israel) Ceasefire. Trumpian is another adjective.

The war isn't over. Mossad will keep the IRGC weak until the Iranians themselves rebel against it, which they are starting to do. To aid their rebellion was another good reason for the ceasefire. It would be hard for an anti-Regime movement to grow while their county is being bombed by foreigners.

 

[reddogs]

Yes and no. Daniel chapter 9 is about one specific time period of 490 years, which was a prophecy about Christ, the coming of the Messiah and the confirmation of the covenant the God swore in an oath with Abraham which was completed during the 70th week of Daniel. It was fulfilled in Christ. From His baptism in the wilderness to the stoning of Stephen, and in the midst of the week He was cut off, not for himself, but for the sins of the world.

The Law and the prophets spoke of the coming of Christ. But when you search the prophets, you look for the coming of an anti-christ.

When I say numerology, it's not like Daniel, but what you did. You took a passage from Ezekiel and then tried joining it to something else from the book of Leviticus, do a little math magic, and hey look at that, you've divined the year 1948. See, its right there in the word. Only it isn't!

If God's declared punishment in Ezekiel was for 430 years, and then he multiplied that punishment by 7 according to Leviticus, then the punishment would have been for 7x430, not 7x360. (7x430)-70 = 2940......

Well you are close, lets look at Daniel 9 starting in verse 22 and go over it...
Daniel 9:22-27
22 And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.
23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The Prophecy of Seventy Weeks in Daniel chapter 9, is the 490 years of uninterrupted period starting from "the time the word goes out to rebuild and restore Jerusalem," of Daniel 9:25 and ending 3½ years after Jesus' death. The starting point identified with a decree by Artaxerxes I in 458/7 BC to provide money to rebuild Jerusalem and its temple.

Now there where two earlier decrees by Cyrus and Darius’. So why don't these two decrees qualify to start the prophecy of Daniel 9:25? Well lets take a look at these two decrees. The first is the decree of Cyrus, given in his first year (537/536 B.C.) which is recorded in Ezra 1:1-4. An undated decree of Darius (520/519 B.C.) which is found in Ezra 6:1-12 merely reconfirms the decree of Cyrus. however, the first two decrees are about the temple, and its reconstruction, whereas the statement in Daniel 9:25 is concerned with the decree that resulted in the rebuilding of the city of Jerusalem.

The first two decrees can be omitted from consideration, because they deal only with the building of the temple, and not the rebuilding of the city and restoration, "that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times." So we can see that the third decree of Artaxerxes is the one that started the prophecy of Daniel 9 and was implemented in September/October 457 B.C.

The appearance of "Messiah the Prince" at the end of the 69 weeks (483 years) is aligned with Jesus' baptism in 27 CE. The 'cutting off' of the "anointed one" is applied to the Jesus' execution 3½ years after the end of the 483 years, bringing "atonement for iniquity" and "everlasting righteousness". Jesus' death is said to 'confirm' the "covenant" between God and mankind by in 31 CE "in the midst of" the last seven years. The end of the 70th week is associated with 34 AD when the gospel was redirected from only the Jews to all peoples.

This is what history shows us and is what the Protestant Reformers went by, the historicist view of the 70 weeks which basically is interpreted as 490 years according to the day-year principle. So you can see why time period of Antiochus IV Epiphanes is considered irrelevant, and the period is instead applied to the Jewish nation from about the middle of the 5th century BC until not long after the death of Jesus. The seven and sixty-two-week periods are generally understood as consecutive, non-overlapping periods starting during the reign of Artaxerxes I and ending with Jesus' baptism.

 

[reddogs]

Here is a good explanation: "Prophecies are couched in symbolic language that needs to be unraveled before the meaning of the words can be understood. Prophetic time is used as a symbol to be interpreted in the light of Scripture.

According to the number of the days in which you spied out the land, forty days, for each day you shall bear your guilt one year, namely forty years (Numbers 14:34 NKJV).

I have appointed thee each day for a year (Ezekiel 4:6).

These two texts provide the key—the day-year principle. This principle takes prophetic days and converts them to actual years. Applying this principle to the 70-week prophecy will show that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah.

Six Messianic Tasks
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy (Daniel 9:24).

“Thy people” were God’s chosen people Israel. Seventy weeks resolves into 490 days. Applying the day-year principle, 490 days become 490 years.

The 490 years were appointed to the Jewish nation for these six reasons found in Daniel 9:24:
1. to finish the transgression
2. to make an end of sins
3. to make reconciliation for iniquity
4. to bring in everlasting righteousness
5. to seal up vision and prophecy
6. to anoint the most Holy

These six issues could only be fulfilled in and through the Messiah. Who else could make reconciliation for iniquity or bring in everlasting righteousness?

Jesus Fulfills the Prophecy
Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate (Daniel 9:25-27).

The angel gives a breakdown of the 70 weeks as follows:

7 weeks of years for rebuilding of Jerusalem (verse 25)

62 weeks of years to the Messiah (verses 25-26)

1 week of years to the close of the period (verse 27)...

The 2300-day prophecy, of which the 70-week prophecy is a small part, was to begin at the command that effected the restoration of Jerusalem. This command went forth under King Artaxerxes Longimanus in the year 457 BC (Ezra 7:12-13).ii

From this starting point, we can determine all the other time markers of the prophecy. Seven weeks were allotted for the restoration of Jerusalem. True to the prophecy, Jerusalem was rebuilt 49 years after 457 BC, which was 408 BC.

Seven weeks (49 day-years) for the rebuilding of Jerusalem and another threescore and two weeks (62 weeks or 434 day-years) brings us to "the Messiah the Prince." Beginning in 457 BC and applying the day-year principle, we can determine the passing of 483 years from 457 BC which brings us to 27 AD (allowing for the conversion from BC to AD being one extra year).

In 27 AD, Jesus was anointed by the Holy Spirit on the occasion of His baptism which marked the beginning of His ministry (Luke 3:21-23). This baptism marked the event in Daniel’s prophecy “unto the Messiah the Prince.” When Christ proclaimed, “The time is fulfilled” (Mark 1:15), He was referring to this part of the prophecy.iii

The end of the prophecy is 34 AD, 7 day-years after the baptism:
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease (Daniel 9:27).

Christ would confirm the covenant made with Israel for one prophetic week (7 years), but oblation (offerings) would cease in the middle of the week (3 ½ years after 27 AD). This mid-point brings us to 31 AD—the year Christ was crucified. It was at His death that he put an end to the system of offerings practiced by Israel for so many years. "The 70-Week Prophecy | Daniel 70 Weeks Prophecy

 

[reddogs]

Here is another good explanation on this which breaks it down and shows how it comes about better..
"It starts out with, well, 70 weeks. The angel Gabriel says that “seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city” (Dan. 9:24, NKJV).

So, it begins with 70 weeks, 490 days.

Gabriel then says that “from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks” (verse 25).

So, seven weeks plus 62 weeks comes to 69 weeks, or 483 days. Thus, 69 of the 70 weeks are immediately accounted for. Plus, this gives us the starting point of the 70 weeks.

All that remains is one week, the last, the seventieth.

That week immediately appears in the next verse, when Gabriel says, “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself” (verse 26).

After what 62 weeks? The 62 weeks of the previous verse, which follow the seven weeks. Thus, after the seven weeks and the 62 weeks, that is, after 69 weeks, the Messiah will be “cut off.” And because only one week remains in the prophecy, this verse is referring to the seventieth week, the last seven days.

This final week is depicted again: “Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering” (verse 27).

In the midst of the last week, or in three and a half days, the “sacrifice and offerings” will cease.

So, to review.

We have the 70 weeks.

Then 69 of the 70 are immediately depicted; only one week, the last week, or the last seven days, remains.

Then three and a half days through the last week “the sacrifice and the oblation” will cease (verse 27, KJV).

What does this all mean?

First, the command to “restore and rebuild Jerusalem,” its starting point, was in 457 B.C, one of the firmest dates in biblical antiquity...

So from 457 B.C to the “Messiah the prince,” Jesus, was how long? The text said 69 weeks, 483 days, or about one year and four months. That length, of course, can’t be correct, because it would have the Messiah, Jesus, coming almost half a millennium before He did. But if one applies the day-year principle, the 69 weeks, or 483 days, becomes 483 years, which brings us to A.D. 27, the year that Jesus was baptized. The ministry of Jesus Himself proves the validity of the day-year principle.

All that remains, then, is the last week, or the last seven years. In the midst of the week, or three and half years later, which comes to A.D. 31, “the sacrifice and the oblations” are brought to an end. At the death of Jesus, that is, when the Messiah was “cut off” in A.D. 31, the veil in the temple was torn apart, from top to bottom (Matt. 27:51; Mark 15:38), signifying the end of the purpose of the sacrifice and oblations because what they all pointed to, the death of Jesus, had been fulfilled.

Meanwhile, it said that He, the Messiah, will confirm a covenant “with many for one week” (verse 27), the last week, which ended in 34 A.D. with the stoning of Stephen (Acts 7) and the gospel now going to Gentiles as well as Jews.

So in short, there are 70 “weeks.” Sixty-nine of the 70 bring us to Jesus. The last week remains; in the midst of that week, or three and half “days,” Jesus is crucified,” then the prophecy ends."

 

[reddogs]

Cheating how? As far as I'm aware, up until the ending of the agreement, Iran was following it by not creating weapons grade nuclear material. No one's even sure now if Iran has produced any weapons grade nuclear material. Just as it is here, many companies work with nuclear material, but it's not weapons grade. Some people see the word 'nuclear' and immediately think BOMB!!! But there are other uses of nuclear material, that still needs to have manufacturing processes done to it to make if usable for various purposes. We don't just pick up some nuclear rock from the earth and stick it into a building and have a nuclear power plant. The material must be processed into the rods that the power generation of the plant requires. The agreement with Iran was broken in 2018. That's seven years now that Iran has had, since we broke the agreement, to work with nuclear material however they wanted to since there was no agreement that they wouldn't.

Well, as you can see from the news, their intent was clear and now they went and took the enriched uranium into several directions from the satellite images which showed the trucks taking it before the bombs hit. So its still out there, but now the Israelis can hit it on the surface once they find it..

 

[miamited]

Well, as you can see from the news, their intent was clear and now they went and took the enriched uranium into several directions from the satellite images which sho@@wed the trucks taking it before the bombs hit. So its still out there, but now the Israelis can hit it on the surface once they find it..

Hey reddogs

Well, actually what I'm reading is what 'everyone thinks' they might be doing. My research says that they've never tried to enrich uranium more than 60% which is the safe level that the previous agreement set. That's what I'm reading. Could you link me to your research showing that isn't the truth?

 

[Elijah7777]

And who are you to declare that Christ can only reign for a thousand years, is not his kingdom eternal?

The Kingdom age has to do with Government. Then there will be a new Heaven and a New Earth and no more death. “And the government shall be upon His shoulder...” (Isaiah 9:6) “Behold, I make all things new…” (Revelation 21:5). A new heaven and new earth—no more death, sorrow, or pain.

 

[reddogs]

Hey reddogs

Well, actually what I'm reading is what 'everyone thinks' they might be doing. My research says that they've never tried to enrich uranium more than 60% which is the safe level that the previous agreement set. That's what I'm reading. Could you link me to your research showing that isn't the truth?

I guess you dont read the news lately..

Iran nuclear: IAEA inspectors find uranium particles enriched to 83.7%

A watchdog is discussing with Iran the purity of the particles, which is very close to weapons grade.

www.bbc.com

UN report: Uranium particles enriched to 83.7% found in Iran

Inspectors from the United Nations nuclear watchdog have found uranium particles enriched up to 83.7% in Iran’s underground Fordo nuclear site.

apnews.com

Iran enriching uranium to near weapons-grade levels, nuclear watchdog warns

Tehran “continues its unprecedented and grave nuclear escalation,” according to Britain, France and Germany.

www.nbcnews.com

Iran ready to enrich uranium to bomb-grade levels: "we can do that"

Iran says its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes but has hardened its stance on enrichment following attacks

www.newsweek.com

What is Iran’s Fordow nuclear facility that the US has bombed?

The US bombed Iran’s hardest-to-reach site on Sunday. Here’s why Fordow is so significant.

www.aljazeera.com

Iran could start enriching uranium within months, UN nuclear chief says

Rafael Grossi's claim contradicts President Trump, who insists Iran's nuclear capabilities have been "totally obliterated".

www.bbc.co.uk

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/29/world/iaea-iran-enriched-uranium-intl

Could Iran Have Been Close to Making a Nuclear Weapon? Uranium Enrichment Explained

When Israeli aircraft recently struck a uranium-enrichment complex in the nation, Iran could have been days away from achieving “breakout,” the ability to quickly turn “yellowcake” uranium into bomb-grade fuel, with its new high-speed centrifuges

www.scientificamerican.com

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5165516-iran-uranium-enrichment-iaea/