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This church, also known by it's abbreviation FSM, is now seeing service daily at the richard dawkins forum, and although Dawkins did not invent the Spaghetti Monster, he supports the Church nonetheless.
In fact, Dawkins, for reasons still unknown, ridicules Christianity to no end. Why do you suppose this is? Why does this depraved individual insist on ridiculing goodness, faith, love? The member of the FSM would alleged that Dawkins is just hell-bent on ridiculing all faiths, as his 'God Delusion' book will testify. But if that's so, then why only the focus on Jesus? Saying, "Because Christianity is alot more popular than the other religions" is not an acceptable answer, because if Dawkins was ridiculing faiths based on popularity, the 'God Delusion' would have been titled something else, like, "An Assault On Christianity: The Most Popular Religion in the World."
 
The Bible Thumper said:
This church, also known by it's abbreviation FSM, is now seeing service daily at the richard dawkins forum, and although Dawkins did not invent the Spaghetti Monster, he supports the Church nonetheless.
In fact, Dawkins, for reasons still unknown, ridicules Christianity to no end. Why do you suppose this is? Why does this depraved individual insist on ridiculing goodness, faith, love? The member of the FSM would alleged that Dawkins is just hell-bent on ridiculing all faiths, as his 'God Delusion' book will testify. But if that's so, then why only the focus on Jesus? Saying, "Because Christianity is alot more popular than the other religions" is not an acceptable answer, because if Dawkins was ridiculing faiths based on popularity, the 'God Delusion' would have been titled something else, like, "An Assault On Christianity: The Most Popular Religion in the World."

Because Dawkins gets a lot more attention for attacking Christianity.

I have an equation for you.

A book + Lots of free exposure because of controversy = $$$$$
 
After reading the God delusion i took it out back threw it into the air and fed it hot lead from a 12ga pump. Get that crap out of my house.
 
A book + Lots of free exposure because of controversy = $$$$$

That...and because the media, government, and other faiths, would NOT tolerate attacks such as these against any other target!

Plus, Christianty, itself, is so fragmented, they can't unite into a force capable of properly coping with the situation, without abandoning the denominational dogma which is critical to their own existence.

In Christ,

Pogo
 
Pogo said:
A book + Lots of free exposure because of controversy = $$$$$

That...and because the media, government, and other faiths, would NOT tolerate attacks such as these against any other target!

Plus, Christianty, itself, is so fragmented, they can't unite into a force capable of properly coping with the situation, without abandoning the denominational dogma which is critical to their own existence.

In Christ,

Pogo

In his book he is scathing about Muslims as well. Pretty much all three Abrahamic religions. He does focus on God, but I do not remember much focus on Jesus Christ at all, apart from questioning the evidence of Christ's existence as a real person.
 
The reason that Dawkins mainly focuses on Jesus is because he is the only truth, everything else is ridiculous. It has nothing to do with popularity. Dawkins is just another one of those idiot comedians who shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
therealsuperman64 said:
The reason that Dawkins mainly focuses on Jesus is because he is the only truth, everything else is ridiculous.

Hi everyone, I'm Josh. I'm new here, and this is my first post. I was raised Christian, but currently I consider myself a TAP (temporary agnostic in practice). I have two questions for "therealsuperman64". The first one is obvious: are you really the REAL Superman? If you can prove this somehow, then I would love to get your autograph. :)

The second question is: did Mr. Dawkins personally tell you why he "mainly focuses on Jesus"? I'm going to go out on a limb here, and guess that he did not. Now, although I don't claim to speak for Dawkins any more than you can, I personally feel that there is a good chance that he did NOT say to himself before he wrote this book: "By jove, I know that Jesus is the only truth, and everything else is ridiculous. So that is why I will focus mainly on ridiculing Jesus in my book. Splendid idea!"

Again, I can't speak for him with authority, and I don't know what's in his heart. But I've read his book, and objectively considered what he had to say, and I don't get the impression that he "knows deep down that Jesus is Lord" and seeks to overcompensate for it with extra ridicule. I don't see Mr. Dawkins being a closeted Christian. But this is all just my :twocents , and I could be wrong.
 
^^ That was a good post.

It made me laugh!

Really and truly, it is all about one thing..

Unsaved people wanting to make fun of all the "goody" people in the world.

That is it.. They want to feel better by making fun of others. Classic school playground rules right?

OR

They could really know the horror of the situation and are making light of it by spreading humor.

Either way, whether it is unbelief or wanting not to believe, they need prayer.
 
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Does anybody here know Mr. Dawkins, I can understand an atheist dragging his name
through the mud but a Christian? try this man: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=l ... Leonard+R#

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mudjosh said:
Really and truly, it is all about one thing..

Unsaved people wanting to make fun of all the "goody" people in the world.

According to prison statistics, you may be surprised at who exactly the "goody" people are. (Hint: not the ones you would expect)

Note that atheists, being a moderate proportion of the USA population (about 8-16%) are disproportionately less in the prison populations (0.21%).

:chin
 
I don't wish to attack non-believers any more than I wish them to attack my beliefs.

I know some atheist who do consider themselves to be "do-gooders" and feel they can be righteous and pleasant people in society without Christ.

I don't think we should consider non-believers to automatically be bad people just because they aren't Christians. I don't think Darwin sat out to sell a book just for money...he really believes what he wrote. i also don't think he sat out to direct his thoughts and/or beliefs to disprove Christianity.

IMO..we are all children of God. Some chose to not follow the word of Christ.... Paul tells us it's our job to spread the word and convert those non-believers.
 
The Bible Thumper said:
In fact, Dawkins, for reasons still unknown, ridicules Christianity to no end. Why do you suppose this is? Why does this depraved individual insist on ridiculing goodness, faith, love?

Although I cannot expertly speak for Dawkins, he does not ridicule goodness or love at all. You are completely missing his point. He and others do have a problem with some types of faith, however. A lot of it is based on the irrationality of certain worldviews, (and yes he points at Christians quite a bit, especially literal/fundamentalist reading of the Bible), lack of evidence, etc. He raises some good points regarding those issues and others, and also focuses on the negative consequences of religious belief. It is not to feel better since other people are "saved" and he is not, or that he doesn't WANT to believe as mudjosh suggested. Most of the people on that forum that I know WANT to believe things about Christianity in many senses, for example because they can calculate that any finite amount of time on earth (whatever is required of you here) followed by eternity in heaven sounds like a pretty darn good thing, but they DON'T believe it because WANTING something to be true doesn't make it true. They have intensely studied it and tried, but rejected it.
 
Actually he doesn't talk about Jesus Christ that much. He does go after Yaweh, or the God of Abraham pretty hard. This except is the beginning of the second chapter of his book.

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all of fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty,unjust, unforgiving control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic,homophobic,racist,infanticidal,genocidal,filicidal,pestilential,megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

In regards to Jesus Christ, you might be surprised to know that most atheists consider the moral teachings of Jesus to be some pretty good stuff (golden rule ect.).

Its mostly his followers that they have a problem with.
 
In regards to Jesus Christ, you might be surprised to know that most atheists consider the moral teachings of Jesus to be some pretty good stuff (golden rule ect.).

Its mostly his followers that they have a problem with.

That is most likely true. I don't think Christians ever claimed to be perfect though.

As a follower of Christ I have many problems. I struggle with sin daily and anyone who says they don't is just a liar.
We can not be perfect, but we are made perfect through grace. Jesus' blood covers all who repent.

Why do you have a problem with christians? Why post on a christian forum when you obviously do? Do you just like to harass christians?
 
Pogo said:
A book + Lots of free exposure because of controversy = $$$$$

That...and because the media, government, and other faiths, would NOT tolerate attacks such as these against any other target!

Plus, Christianty, itself, is so fragmented, they can't unite into a force capable of properly coping with the situation, without abandoning the denominational dogma which is critical to their own existence.

In Christ,

Pogo
:)
You are right, and that is why God is sending us a tribulation. It will finally unit Christians and separate those who are not prepared to die for their faith. Instant success ! The Judas factor will leave the church and the true disciples will stay behind. Dogma will leave with the "sons of perdition" because at the moment they are keeping it alive in the church.

C
 
The Bible Thumper said:
This church, also known by it's abbreviation FSM, is now seeing service daily at the richard dawkins forum, and although Dawkins did not invent the Spaghetti Monster, he supports the Church nonetheless.
In fact, Dawkins, for reasons still unknown, ridicules Christianity to no end. Why do you suppose this is? Why does this depraved individual insist on ridiculing goodness, faith, love? The member of the FSM would alleged that Dawkins is just hell-bent on ridiculing all faiths, as his 'God Delusion' book will testify. But if that's so, then why only the focus on Jesus? Saying, "Because Christianity is alot more popular than the other religions" is not an acceptable answer, because if Dawkins was ridiculing faiths based on popularity, the 'God Delusion' would have been titled something else, like, "An Assault On Christianity: The Most Popular Religion in the World."

Wow--a strawman by atheists. Didn't see that coming!!!!!!!!!!! :halo
 
John said:
After reading the God delusion i took it out back threw it into the air and fed it hot lead from a 12ga pump. Get that crap out of my house.

John, you are my hero. :)
 
John said:
After reading the God delusion i took it out back threw it into the air and fed it hot lead from a 12ga pump. Get that crap out of my house.

That seems like a totally reasonable reaction. I would be surprised if you had actually sat down and read the whole thing.
 
That seems like a totally reasonable reaction. I would be surprised if you had actually sat down and read the whole thing.

O i read it.

What would you have me do after reading it? Donate it to a church :rolling
 
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