What FORD stands for

[Dave Slayer]

Doesn't stand for:
- Found On Road Dead
- Fix Or Repair Daily

Does Stand For:
- First On Race Day
- For Off Road Destruction

GMC stands for:
- Give Me Chrysler

:P

 

[Nick]

FORD definately stands for Found On Rubbish Dump.

 

[Dave Slayer]

FORD definately stands for Found On Rubbish Dump.

Not that either. :D

I have actually had better luck with my Ford (Mercury) car than I have some of my others. :yes

 

[Nick]

[quote="Nick_29":2arce6lr]FORD definately stands for Found On Rubbish Dump.

Not that either. :D

I have actually had better luck with my Ford (Mercury) car than I have some of my others. :yes[/quote:2arce6lr]
I insisst that's what it stands for, but then again I'm pretty against Ford, GM and Chrysler.

 

[Dave Slayer]

[quote="Dave Slayer":3754p7zh][quote="Nick_29":3754p7zh]FORD definately stands for Found On Rubbish Dump.

Not that either. :D

I have actually had better luck with my Ford (Mercury) car than I have some of my others. :yes[/quote:3754p7zh]
I insisst that's what it stands for, but then again I'm pretty against Ford, GM and Chrysler.[/quote:3754p7zh]

Than you are against the backbone of the 3 major American auto makers. If they go under, then our economy will significantly worsen. They have recently suffered some financial hardships but believe me when I say they will make a come back! :yes

 

[Nick]

Than you are against the backbone of the 3 major American auto makers.

That's right! :yes. I'm not against them existing, and I believe people should have the choice to buy their (IMO) terrible cars, but I personally wouldn't buy one. I understand why people would though.

 

[Dave Slayer]

[quote="Dave Slayer":g8okp01h]Than you are against the backbone of the 3 major American auto makers.

That's right! :yes. I'm not against them existing, and I believe people should have the choice to buy their (IMO) terrible cars, but I personally wouldn't buy one. I understand why people would though.[/quote:g8okp01h]

So I guess my car is terrible because the opinion of Nick_29. :nag My car has been great, thank you very much! :D

Any car is "terrible" depending on who you talk to. If these cars are so terrible as you say, then why haven't they gone completely under decades ago? Why has my family and friends had excellent luck with their "terrible" American cars? I have heard people say foreign cars are terrible. I know people who have had bad luck with foreign cars. American cars aren't any more terrible than foreign cars. Actually, most American cars today are being built over seas so technically they are foreign cars. They are assembled here in the USA for the most part, but many parts are built overseas.

The truth is that any car can be bad if you do not take care of it. Sure, some makes and models aren't as good as others but that does not make all of them terrible cars. Ford makes some good cars and some not so good cars. Chevy makes some good cars and some not so good cars. KIA makes some good cars and some not so good cars.

Bottom line? If you don't like it, don't drive it. But no need in telling someone they have a terrible car. You didn't exactly say "Dave, you have a terrible car because it's American", but your post seems to indicate such.

 

[jasoncran]

fword(ed) over rebuilt dodge

mercury= my early retirement couldn't cure my rectal yearnings

mods if i have violated the rules here please delete this post

jason

 

[jasoncran]

gmc= got mechanic comming, general mess of crap

kia= killed in action, korean intel agency

Nippon Insurrection Striking Sorely Against Nonjapenese is what Nissan stands for, yes i have one of them i made that up before i owned one again, i also own a ford ranger
Nippon is the Japenese word for Japan ie Nippondenso compressor and other ac parts
jason

 

[Nick]

[quote="Nick_29":883r7dyr][quote="Dave Slayer":883r7dyr]Than you are against the backbone of the 3 major American auto makers.

That's right! :yes. I'm not against them existing, and I believe people should have the choice to buy their (IMO) terrible cars, but I personally wouldn't buy one. I understand why people would though.[/quote:883r7dyr]

So I guess my car is terrible because the opinion of Nick_29. :nag My car has been great, thank you very much! :D

Any car is "terrible" depending on who you talk to. If these cars are so terrible as you say, then why haven't they gone completely under decades ago? Why has my family and friends had excellent luck with their "terrible" American cars? I have heard people say foreign cars are terrible. I know people who have had bad luck with foreign cars. American cars aren't any more terrible than foreign cars. Actually, most American cars today are being built over seas so technically they are foreign cars. They are assembled here in the USA for the most part, but many parts are built overseas.

The truth is that any car can be bad if you do not take care of it. Sure, some makes and models aren't as good as others but that does not make all of them terrible cars. Ford makes some good cars and some not so good cars. Chevy makes some good cars and some not so good cars. KIA makes some good cars and some not so good cars.

Bottom line? If you don't like it, don't drive it. But no need in telling someone they have a terrible car. You didn't exactly say "Dave, you have a terrible car because it's American", but your post seems to indicate such.[/quote:883r7dyr]
Well it is my opinion, and I'm intitled to it, as you are yours. I never said American cars were terrible, but it seems many of the companies i listed were American.

I didn't mean any offense in my post, and am sorry if I caused any, I was just stating my opinion. IMO the word "terrible" isn't too bad.

Now, totopic please. This 'dispute' has been settled by PM anyway. Let's get on with the thread!

 

[stovebolts]

Just because I love racing :D
FORD = Found on Road Dead

Kidding aside, Ford makes the best trucks in the world, and that's not my opinion, that's a fact that's backed up by real numbers.

As far as Chrysler, I think that they are some of the best engineered vehicles around especially when it comes to maintaining them.

Speaking for GM (I've been on a GM account for almost 10 years), while there was a time when GM built some terrible cars, those days are over. When it comes to quality, the gap that used to exist between GM and other foreign automakers (toyota in particular) has been declining since 2006 and that gap was closed with the 2009 models as reported by JD Powers and Associates. Again, this is not my opinion, it's fact.

Fact is, GM is now producing some of the best cars in the world, and will continue to do so till they become the new benchmark once again.

 

[Dave Slayer]

Just because I love racing :D
FORD = Found on Road Dead

Kidding aside, Ford makes the best trucks in the world, and that's not my opinion, that's a fact that's backed up by real numbers.

As far as Chrysler, I think that they are some of the best engineered vehicles around especially when it comes to maintaining them.

Speaking for GM (I've been on a GM account for almost 10 years), while there was a time when GM built some terrible cars, those days are over. When it comes to quality, the gap that used to exist between GM and other foreign automakers (toyota in particular) has been declining since 2006 and that gap was closed with the 2009 models as reported by JD Powers and Associates. Again, this is not my opinion, it's fact.

Fact is, GM is now producing some of the best cars in the world, and will continue to do so till they become the new benchmark once again.

Good post. It also appears that Ford has been building better cars lately too. I have rented a Ford Focus twice when going out of state and they run excellent as well as get great gas mileage. I do want to test drive a Ford Fusion sometime. I am considering getting one someday for my next car. I like the style of them. I would want one in candy apple red with a black interior. :yes

It looks like American cars are making a come back!

 

[stovebolts]

Hi Dave,

Yes, Ford is making some nice cars. My son used to own a Focus but didn't like it for some reason. Now he's in an 08 Mazda 6 and is really enjoying it.

I've had the luxury of having a company car for the past 3 + years and in that time I've driven an 06 Malibu Maxx and I'm currently in an 08 Ford Fusion until the end of July when, as a cost saving measure, I will no longer qualify for a fleet vehicle. How did I get a Ford on a GM account?.... GM was loosing cash in their fleet vehicle division, so when the Maxx was up, GM had all fleet services froze, so I went into a Fusion.

The Fusion is a beautiful car from how it looks on the outside and the interior that just spoils you. Once you've sat in the drivers seat of the fusion, you won't want to get out... It's that comfortable. I've also got Microsoft Sync and I've got to add that Ford did right when they designed the interior. It's very comfortable and lush. When I was in the Maxx, the interior was clean and functional, but he seats were hard and my long drives weren't always very comfortable. Also, the kids complained how uncomfortable the back seats were too, so I'd have to give the Maxx a C- on the comfort of the seats.

Learning all the controls on the steering wheel of the Fusion were a bit to get used to and when I compare the controls on the steering wheel with those on the Maxx, the Maxx was easier to control and more intuitive. On occasion, I'll still accidentally hit a control and mess up the whole stereo in the Fusion and when it comes to navigating between the USB port or the Input line, you can't toggle between them, so it's one or the other. Also, the hands free calling (integrated blue tooth) sounds rotten in the Fusion and I've been told by several people that my voice gets all garbled when I use it, so I've opted to not use it at all... It's that bad. When I was in the Maxx using the OnStar personal calling feature, nobody ever complained and my voice quality was excellent. Often, my wife didn't even know I was using OnStar hands free calling and for those who don't want to pay for them expensive minutes, you can integrate your existing Verizon phone plan into the OnStar hands free calling system for a very nominal fee. (psst, they won't tell you that because they want to sell you minutes)

When it comes to power train, I'd have to give the Fusion a way lower mark than the Maxx. I'm old school when it comes to winter driving and I'll be honest, the traction control on the Maxx saved my skin several times. I'll tell ya, GM's traction control system really spoiled me. I live on a dirt road and often it's one of the last roads to get plowed. To be honest, I've never had a problem with the Maxx, it just stepped right through it. What I really, really liked about the traction control is how if a tire started to slip, the brake would seamlessly apply to that tire and if both were slipping, it would automatically throttle the engine down. Also, as far as the Anti lock brakes, and yes I've even tested this, but at 40 mph on an unplowed dirt road w/ compact ice and snow, I've slammed on my brakes, entirely let go of the steering wheel and the car stayed perfectly straight until I came to a complete stop. Yeah, the anti lock brakes saved my rear a few times lol! Anyway, it was a rude awakening when I got into the Fusion this winter as I almost got stuck on the road several times and I even got stuck once in my own driveway.. there is absolutely no comparison between the two cars and GM is light years ahead with their anti-lock brakes combined with their traction control system and both are wonderfully integrated to completely complement the power train.

Which brings me to the Engine. The Maxx had a lot more torque and horse power and still got great mpg. I'm currently getting 25.6 mph with the Fusion, but they paired up their V-6 with a flywheel from a V-8 which makes the shifts jerky as well as sometimes when I stop because when the transmission downshifts, the mismatch in the flywheel sends surge through the car. But where it's really noticable is when I don't come to a complete stop and start to go again. Often, if I hit that 'sweet' spot, the car gives a big annoying jerk as the torque converter engages. Again, I've been told that this is because fo the V-8 flywheel they put in the car.

As far as handling, the Fusion is a very luxurious car to cruise in. It's very smooth when your out on the Hwy under normal circumstances (I've taken it to Washington State twice), but because of its soft comfortable ride, it's extremely susceptible to side winds pushing it around or ruts pulling it here an there. The Maxx has a stiffer suspension which equates to a firmer ride, but it handles the ruts and side wind without any issues which to me equates into a safer car so I suppose it's up to the individual what's more important.

 

[Lewis]

I have always been a ford man especially, the 351 Cleveland motors early models 69-71 and that 351 Boss engine could make you cry with joy. But you could get the 72 and 73's to run too, I out ran the Fort Benning MP's straight out the front gate, and the Columbus Georgia cops on a drunken episode, 1980 in a hopped up 351 Cleveland, and they could not catch me until I crashed. And they told me, that they were getting ready to call of the chase, because they could not keep up. I got locked up for 3 days and lost a strip over that one. Also the 302 Boss, was another small block engine that could run. And also the Ford 428 Cobra Jet, was another good one. Now Chevy had some good ones, I liked the 396's that came in 325, 350, and 375 horse power engines. And also the old 427's I am not talking about the newer ones that has 500 to 550 horses. And I also liked the old 426 Hemi engines,even the 318's and the 383's could run. I love the old Holly carb gas guzzling muscle cars.

 

[jasoncran]

I have always been a ford man especially, the 351 Cleveland motors early models 69-71 and that 351 Boss engine could make you cry with joy. But you could get the 72 and 73's to run too, I out ran the Fort Benning MP's straight out the front gate, and the Columbus Georgia cops on a drunken episode, 1980 in a hopped up 351 Cleveland, and they could not catch me until I crashed. And they told me, that they were getting ready to call of the chase, because they could not keep up. I got locked up for 3 days and lost a strip over that one. Also the 302 Boss, was another small block engine that could run. And also the Ford 428 Cobra Jet, was another good one. Now Chevy had some good ones, I liked the 396's that came in 325, 350, and 375 horse power engines. And also the old 427's I am not talking about the newer ones that has 500 to 550 horses. And I also liked the old 426 Hemi engines,even the 318's and the 383's could run. I love the old Holly carb gas guzzling muscle cars.

amen to those days

jason

 

[Free]

Until Ford's most recent offerings, in North America anyway, American vehicle manufacturers have been making some of the ugliest, or at best, the most plain and uninspiring vehicles out there. Not to mention the lack of built quality. For the last several years the only selling point they had was how much power the vehicles made. Their undoing is completely and totally their own fault--bad design, bad quality, bad business practices. I not at all interested in in buying one until things can be shown to have completely changed for a number of years.

So, yes, FORD and GMC do stand for several things, none of them which are good.

Having said all that, I will not buy another Nissan as they have really dropped the ball in the last few years on the Altima, Maxima and Murano. Once my Altima goes, I will be looking at some other foreign make.

 

[Lewis]

That New Lincoln is the bomb, that thing is great. :yes

 

[jasoncran]

That New Lincoln is the bomb, that thing is great. :yes

lincoln stands for like it or not this car outlast a nissan

btw the founder of lincoln motors(leland lincoln) also went to gmc and designed the early caddys

jason

 

[Lewis]

My dream vehicle is a Cadillac Escalade, that is what I want, a black one.