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What Happens When We Die?

SamNI

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After death everyone will face the Judgement: "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad” (2nd Corinthians 5:10). (See also: Romans 14:12; 2nd Timothy 4:1; Hebrews 9:27.)

"Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life [i.e., those who trusted in Christ and serve Him, see John 5:24], those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment" (John 5:28, 29); "...there shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked" (Acts 24:15); “I tell you that on the day of judgment, people will give an account for every worthless word they speak. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned” (Matthew 12:36, 37, NET Bible).

In 1st Thessalonians we are told that those who have died—believers who are "asleep" in Christ—will rise first, then "...we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words" (read carefully 1st Thessalonians 4:13-18).

These verses of Scripture teach us that believers who have died will be raised at Christ's return—they are considered to be asleep until that moment. All who are dead will hear His voice. They will be resurrected from sleep (death) to be with Christ for ever. They will be changed.

Those who have trusted in Christ will rise again, even though their bodies have decayed in the grave, or have been utterly destroyed in various ways. Martha's comment to Jesus reflects this belief: "I know that he [Martha's brother] will rise again in the resurrection on the last day" (John 11:24).

What are we aware of after we die and before Christ returns? Should we look to Old Testament texts for insight? "Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might; for there is no activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol where you are going" (Ecclesiastes 9:10); "When his spirit leaves him, he returns to the earth; In that very day his thoughts and plans perish" (Psalm 146:4, Amplified Bible).

It seems that most true believers interpret the text at 2nd Corinthians 5:8 and Philippians 1:23 to mean that immediately after death we will leave our bodies and be with Christ: "...absent from the body and... at home with the Lord"; "having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better."

In 1st Corinthians 15:35 the question is asked: “How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?” In reply Paul explains: “So… is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body” (vs. 42-44; also consider Philippians 3:20, 21). After the resurrection of the dead our bodies will be imperishable and spiritual. They will be dramatically transformed to be like Christ’s body of glory.

In 2nd Corinthians 12:2-4 we read a unique account where Paul was caught up to the "third heaven"—"Paradise". Paul writes: "...whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, God knows." Some may suggest this was a near-death experience.

A singular context for an after-death experience is found in 1st Samuel 28:7-20 where Saul uses a medium to draw Samuel up "out of the earth". "Samuel said to Saul, 'Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?'"

There are contexts in Scripture where individuals did not die but were taken directly into God's presence. In Genesis 5:24 we read: "Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him"; "By faith Enoch was taken up so that he would not see death; and he was not found because God took him up; for he obtained the witness that before his being taken up he was pleasing to God" (Hebrews 11:5).

In 2nd Kings 2:11 we learn that "Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." Elijah appeared with Moses to Peter, James and John when Christ led them up a high mountain and was transfigured before them (see Matthew 17:1-13).

In Luke 23:43, despite His dreadful suffering, Jesus told the criminal being crucified, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise." Although their bodies existed after their death, the crucified criminal was taken that very day to be with Christ in Paradise. He didn't "sleep" awaiting the resurrection. Christ's body was "raised up on the third day" (Luke 9:22).

If in death we are unaware of anything—we "sleep"—our appearing before Christ in our spiritual bodies will seem instant. But whatever our views may be, we agree that after death those who abide in Him are forever secure:

"Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

"For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality. But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, 'Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?' The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law; but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

"Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord" (1st Corinthians 15:50-58).

"I will raise him up on the last day" (John 6:54).

(Scripture: NASB.)
 
Only God has the power to kill the soul.
If any are in Christ that judgment is in their favor and they never die. Just as Jesus never dies.

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”
 
2Co 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
2Co 12:3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)

Now compare this to what happened to John in Rev 4:1-2

Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

This man that Paul was speaking about was only caught up in the Spirit like John who was on the isle of Patmos. John was not taken up to heaven, John 3:13, but was only caught up in the Spirit while he was on the isle of Patmos when he was given all these visions.
 
Enoch, Moses, Abraham and Elijah were not taken up to the third Heaven as some teach as when they were seen (not Enoch or Abraham) of Peter, James and John in Matthew 17:1-9 it was only a transfiguration like a vision that they saw Jesus transfigured as was Moses and Elijah. There is no one in the third heaven except God, Jesus and the angels, John 3:13. Everyone that has ever died is asleep in their grave and when Christ returns they will hear His voice as He calls all of them to come forth. They that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation, Matthew 24:29-31; John 5:28, 29; 6:40 It is only our spirit/breath/soul that goes back to God who gave it, Genesis 2:7; Ecc 12:7.

Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Does not say Enoch was taken up to heaven, but that he was only translated that he should not see death at that particular time being he was 365 years old. Should not see death means since Enoch walked with God he would not see the second death, Rev 20:6, but only that of the first death, Hebrews 9:27, as all his days were three hundred and sixty as he died, but no one knows where.

Genesis 49: 30 In the cave that is in the field of Machpelah, which is before Mamre, in the land of Canaan, which Abraham bought with the field of Ephron the Hittite for a possession of a burying place. 31 There they buried Abraham and Sarah his wife; there they buried Isaac and Rebekah his wife; and there I buried Leah.

Deuteronomy 34:5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. 6 and he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Beth-peor: but no man knoweth of his sepulcher unto this day.

2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (Heaven here means atmosphere, first heaven)

Elijah, having ascended into the air (First heaven) by a whirlwind was carried away out of sight beyond the horizon. Several years after he was taken away King Jehoram received a letter from him. How long after? There are some difficulties in figuring the exact chronology as it varies from 2 to 10 years or more. A note in Josephus (a Jewish historian of the first century A.D.) says 4 years, while the JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA figures it at 7 years.

Regardless of the exact number of years there came writing to Jehoram from Elijah the prophet, saying..." (2Chron 21:12). Now the wickedness of Jehoram, for which he was being rebuked in the letter, took place after Elijah was taken away, yet the letter speaks of these things as past events, and the punishment to come upon him as yet future. So the idea of some, that Elijah wrote the letter before he was removed by the whirlwind, is proved wrong.

Elijah was taken up by the whirlwind into the first heaven and transported to another location on Earth. God did not see fit in His purpose to reveal his whereabouts. Chariot of fire is used at times figuratively for host (angels) like in 2 Kings 2:11, 12: 6:17; Psalms 68:17; 104:1-4. Elijah, by his prayers and his counsel was the "chariot of Israel and the horseman thereof", meaning Elijah was the stronghold of Israel, the driving force of God. The Israelite's never used chariots till the time of David.

When you compare 2 Kings 2:11-15 with 2 Kings 6:17 you see that God sent the host/angels down to Elijah who caught him up in a whirlwind and translated him to parts unknown. Several years after he was taken away King Jehoram received a letter from him.​
 
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