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What is Liberal Theology

Luke 13:14

King James Version (KJV)

14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.

Their arguement reminds me of some of the threads we start. "Is belief works?" - "is healing works?"

Great point. The point I was trying to make with Mark is that the Pharisees were following the letter; rest on the Sabbath. That's what the law said. There were no subpoints, no caveats, no list of exceptions, nothing that said "its ok to do this on the sabbath" It just says "rest on the Sabbath and keep it holy" so that's what they did, they took it at face value. So I love your question, does healing count as works?
 
Great point. The point I was trying to make with Mark is that the Pharisees were following the letter; rest on the Sabbath. That's what the law said. There were no subpoints, no caveats, no list of exceptions, nothing that said "its ok to do this on the sabbath" It just says "rest on the Sabbath and keep it holy" so that's what they did, they took it at face value. So I love your question, does healing count as works?

Have you not studied the laws? There are laws surrounding the Sabbath contained in scripture. They added 39 additional laws to the already existing sabbath laws contained in scripture. Have you also no studied how important following the law was to Jesus. You do know Jesus NEVER broke a law and followed them perfectly.

Matthew 5

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 23:23

Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You pay a tenth of mint, dill, and cumin, yet you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. These things should have been done without neglecting the others.
 
David was a man after God's own heart.

When I study this chapter God gives to a glimpse into the heart of a man who loves God.

Psalm 119

Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

Psalm 119

Delight in God’s Word

א Alef

1 How happy are those whose way is blameless,
who live according to the Lord’s instruction!
2 Happy are those who keep His decrees
and seek Him with all their heart.
3 They do nothing wrong;
they follow His ways.
4 You have commanded that Your precepts
be diligently kept.
5 If only my ways were committed
to keeping Your statutes!
6 Then I would not be ashamed
when I think about all Your commands.
7 I will praise You with a sincere heart
when I learn Your righteous judgments.
8 I will keep Your statutes;
never abandon me.

ב Bet

9 How can a young man keep his way pure?
By keeping Your word.
10 I have sought You with all my heart;
don’t let me wander from Your commands.
11 I have treasured Your word in my heart
so that I may not sin against You.
12 Lord, may You be praised;
teach me Your statutes.
13 With my lips I proclaim
all the judgments from Your mouth.
14 I rejoice in the way revealed by Your decrees
as much as in all riches.
15 I will meditate on Your precepts
and think about Your ways.
16 I will delight in Your statutes;
I will not forget Your word.
 
The Sabbath is the only one of the 10 commandments in Exodus 20 not carried over into the New Testament as a permanent institution for the church.
 
I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned liberal theology and open theism on this thread. Mutually exclusive, or compatible?
 
I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned liberal theology and open theism on this thread. Mutually exclusive, or compatible?
Not sure why you say that. Liberal theology -- historical liberal theology -- has been not just mentioned but defined.
 
Not sure why you say that. Liberal theology -- historical liberal theology -- has been not just mentioned but defined.

Read closer what I wrote. I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned liberal theology and open theism on this thread. Mutually
exclusive, or compatible?
 
Very interesting post. I liked what you wrote. I was looking for someone to mention Schleiermacher. So many other names would be important to the development of Liberalism. Can we mention Welhausen? Certainly the development of higher criticism and all its mutant children? Barth, Bultman, and others reacted against this classical liberalism, but at times seem just as ... well... can I say Liberal? Why is that called Neo Orthodoxy? Should it not be called Neo Liberalism? This whole subject makes me think of the book by J Gresham Machen called "Liberalism and Christianity." Machen challenges the very term "Liberal Christianity." He denies it is Christianity, saying that liberalism does not start from a Christian Worldview. Liberals begin with a very different worldview and try to work from that base back to Christianity. I agree with Machen that they failed. What they have is not Christianity. If I might include one quote from the book on page 21....
"But if any one fact is clear, on the basis of this evidence, it is that the Christian movement at its inception was not just a way of life in the modern sense, but a way of life founded upon a message. It was based, bot upon mere feeling, not upon a mere program of work, but upon than account of facts. In other words it was based upon doctrine."

I agree with Machen. If the facts of certain doctrinal points of Christianity are not true, then Christianity is not true. If Christ did not come back from the dead, we are all fools. If he did come back from death, then we had better live our lives in light of that truth. When certain core doctrines are given up, we have a different religion that is not Christian.

Thanks for the good post.


Liberal theology cannot be easily categorized (as the "Got Questions" website attempted to do) in a few sentences. In fact, Got Questions completely ignores the fact that the so called "liberal theology" arose in opposition to the Enlightenment, which was an effort by many agnostic scientists and philosophers who were highly critical of dogmatic Protestant orthodoxy, among them Immanuel Kant, who put an end to the Enlightenment's pursuit of knowledge through pure reason. However, he introduced the concept that human knowledge arises from the interplay of incoming sensory data (absorbed through the five senses) and innate categories built into the human mind which process that data and in turn made it “knowledge.”

He further held that reality was to be divided into two realms, the phenomenal (the created order in which we live and which is open for us to experience) and the noumnenal (spiritual, metaphysical reality). Well, at least he acknowledge the created nature of this world, but the rest is what has led us to question God's word as God breathed, literal in meaning within the context of the obvious literal and figurative language, allegory, parable, etc., as well as the validity of the Bible as a message for today.

Friederich D.E. Schleiermacher is considered the father of liberal theology. Building on Kant's postulations, he determined three things: (1) The criticiism of Protestant orthodoxy is valid; (2) Romantic Idealistic philosophy gives a better soil in which to ground the Christian faith than the shallow moralistic rationalism of the Enlightenment, (3) Christian theology can be interpreted in terms of romantic idealism and thus allow mankind to be both Christian and modern while being intellectually honest.

In viewing the neologians’ ("new theologians") critique of orthodoxy as correct and in light of Kant’s perceived destruction of the possibility of a rational knowledge of God, Schleiermacher influenced by Romanticism, found a new seat for religion and theology, one that could not be touched by enlightenment criticism--the Gefuhl (the feeling). This feeling is not to be understood as mere emotion. It is the deep inner sense of man that he exists in a relationship of absolute dependence upon God. It is his “god-consciousness” This is the center of religion and piety, according to him.

Schleiermacher turned the traditional theological method on its head. Rather than starting with any objective revelation, religion was seen at its core as subjective. Experience was seen as giving rise to doctrine rather than doctrine to experience. Theological statements no longer were perceived as describing objective reality, but rather as reflecting the way that the feeling of absolute dependence is related to God. It is this experience which is seen as the final authority in religion rather than the objective revelation of an inerrant Scripture. He said “Christian doctrines are accounts of the Christian religious affections set forth in speech.”

For Scheleiermacher, Jesus Christ was unique. Not that he was the God-man of historic orthodoxy, but rather in that he demonstrated in his life a perfect and uninterrupted God-consciousness,. He displayed the “veritable existence of God in him.” This was the redemption which Jesus accomplished. and brought to mankind. In this understanding the cross is not in a sacrificial atonement, but rather it is an example of Jesus’ willingness to enter into ‘sympathy with misery.’

Redemption was then the inner transformation of the individual from the state of God-forgetfulness to the state of God-consciousness. To put it another way, redemption is that state in which god-consciousness predominates over all else in life. Thus his theology was utterly Christocentric in that it was concerned with the example of Jesus as the perfectly god-conscious one, but it ignored Christ's deity and did away with the cross as the atoning sacrifice that restores our fellowship with God.

It took years for these philosophies to worm their way into so-called "mainstream" theology, which is what many of those churches I call "Liberal" in nature -- Anglican, Episcopalian, United Methodist, and others like them -- believe they are: Mainstream. In reality, it is those denominations that are typically criticized as narrow-minded and static in their beliefs that are the mainstream of Christian thought, because these are the denominations that remain closely aligned to what God's word says. These are the Southern Baptists, Evangelical Free, PCA (not PSUSA), Free Methodist, Disciples of Christ, Reformed, and similar churches.

The former churches in that list are more a follower of Schleiermacher than Christ.
 
There are many things I do not agree with in liberal notions. For one, men and women are a yin-yang, not a literal equality. Another is homosexuality- the act is a deviant act next to other sins, but the lifestyle is idolatry. Active homosexuals are on the same tier as professing thieves, alcoholics, and the like. It is pride of a fallen nature, unwilling to be like Christ.

Liberal theology is a product of timidity in the face of an ever growing secular, liberal world. The very term 'liberal theology' is in itself contradictory under any Abrahamic religion, even Christianity.
 
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