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What is the cure for divorce?

Sleeping In YOUR Own Bed?

follower of Christ said:
... the legalism youve preached here...
God bless :)
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Tuf combination, but the Law is holy.

Frankly I offer all of scritpure for this discussion,
but I also suggest folks hear the Holy Spirit
in prayer.

I find that people who resort to
name calling in their every response
usually have little interest in what
I have to observe.

In that case, feel free to ignore it:
It's none of my business what you believe,
just be advised not to be the seventh
Christian found in my wife's bed,
nor the third pastor to bless it.

...there is none that doeth good, no, not one...
Do we then make void the law through faith?
God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 3:31

...God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted
above that ye are able;
but will with the temptation also make a way to escape...
1 Corinthians 10:13
 
Re: Sleeping In YOUR Own Bed?

PrimeRoot said:
Tuf combination, but the Law is holy.
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And Ive presented the law given by Jesus in my post.
Do you obey His CLEAR command or dont you ?

I find that people who resort to
name calling in their every response
usually have little interest in what
I have to observe.
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No one has called you names, friend...lets not start with the martyr nonsense.
ARE you going to OBEY the CLEAR command of Jesus that I quoted.....or arent you ? :)

In that case, feel free to ignore it:
It's none of my business what you believe,
just be advised not to be the seventh
Christian found in my wife's bed,
nor the third pastor to bless it.
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Still no response to what I asked, I see.
Can we assume that you demand OTHERS obey Jesus words of instruction but dont apply them to yourself ?

Read my previous post again and this time try to actually respond to what I actually posted :)
ARE you going to OBEY Jesus Christ and what He commands....or is it just everyone else that you demand obey His instruction ?
 
Make sure that you don't get ahead of God, make sure he or she is the right chosen person that God has put in front of you, I did that with my last marriage, Joyce is a great girl, a Christian girl, but she was not who God picked for me, and i kind of knew that, but I married her anyway, the marriage was doomed before it started. My first wife I did not know Jesus, and didn't want to. But I have the deepest regret for the first marriage breakup, why' I don't know. Sometimes I still wish that I could still be with the first one. Hey do you all think that I still love her, even though we have been apart since 1982 ?
 
Oh' and I forgot to add, Christians today have a very high divorce rate, it is the last time that I checked, around 60 percent. Now that is high ain't it. So why do you all think that is ?
 
refusal to wait on the lord,and sexual sin is the causes of those marriages to start on a bad foot, not mention ignorance of the bible, those who dont want to submit themselves to the lord's will

jason
 
Re: Sleeping In YOUR Own Bed?

follower of Christ said:
No one has called you names, friend...
lets not start with the martyr nonsense.
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Amazing. Im amazed no one has jumped all over you
for trying to derail the topic here,
as they zealously have elsewhere.

In any case, Im wondering why you think
anyone should EVER read the bible,
if you feel specific statements are irrelevant.

Honestly tho, you'll have to interest someone else at this point,
since I see little interest being expressed in the actual topic.
 
Lewis W said:
Oh' and I forgot to add, Christians today have a very high divorce rate, it is the last time that I checked, around 60 percent. Now that is high ain't it. So why do you all think that is ?
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a huge part of it is, sadly, that MANY folks who claim to be christians arent actually Christians.
I have a list of people I know personally who, if asked, will claim christianity simply because the think its cool. None of them have ever even appeared to be christian in their life, and Im betting that none of them has actually even repented for their sins because the majority of them dont even seem to be sorry that they do sin even when its open and blatant...such as trying to have sex with a friends wife in one case.

I dont believe that the divorce rate is as high as some claim among TRUE Christians.

Secondly, if both persons arent 'true' christians, and the unbeliever runs off with someone else, we have a 'christian' divorce where the true christian most likely didnt even want it to begin with.

Thirdly, we have cases where the unbeliever likes to beat and rape the believer, giving them no alternative but to divorce the unbeliever even tho theyd probably prefer that the unbeliever just stop the abuse so they could work their marriage out. Ive seen a few cases of these sorts of marriages very recently where abuse and/or adultery was causing the believer to even have to consider divorcing an unbelieving spouse.

Numbers alone dont really prove much....
 
Re: Sleeping In YOUR Own Bed?

PrimeRoot said:
follower of Christ said:
No one has called you names, friend...
lets not start with the martyr nonsense.
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Amazing. Im amazed no one has jumped all over you
for trying to derail the topic here,
as they zealously have elsewhere.

In any case, Im wondering why you think
anyone should EVER read the bible,
if you feel specific statements are irrelevant.

Honestly tho, you'll have to interest someone else at this point,
since I see little interest being expressed in the actual topic.
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You made a statement, I showed you how that statement doesnt work.
You cant take ONE verse as the whole, absolute truth...otherwise I can do the same, just as I presented.
ALL of the relevant data must be accounted for and harmonized.
A person not willing to do that really ought not be trying to teach others...kwim ?

:)
 
jenkayben said:
Fembot said:
I think you know what the Bible says about divorce, right Dave?

The cure for divorce would be for both partners to know that they are committed for life once they get married. They should abide by God's laws together, study the Bible and pray together. By putting God first (and not temptations), they will be lead in the right direction towards respecting, loving and taking care of each other.
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Fembot, are you married? Cause that is a lot easier said than done. Remember that thing they call the devil? Remember the world we live in? I know it's easy to say Lead me not into temptation but deliver me from evil but when you have friends, family and co-workers who are not christians and try to give you advice about a situation it's hard to not contemplate that advice. When your significant other does something that only a christian can forgive and others who are not christian are constantly putting it in your head that their actions are unforgivable, untolerable, and unworthy of your love it is very hard to not be led into temptation. Just my opinion.

I do think you are right in every way by what you said, it's just the "doing it" part that's hard.
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agreed, so in this case what is important is that a christian walk in faith and forgiveness no matter what their spouse does, and cover the sins of your spouse. by this i mean if your spouse is sinning against you dont go talk to you r unbelieving ( or unfaithful christian) friends or family members about it because they cannot give you godly advice and will just make your walk harder. either find faithful christian brethern for help and prayer or stay between you and God about it. Also always remember to sacrifice yourself and your fleslh for the sake of your husband.or wife. Lay your life down for them and stand in faith always no matter what it looks like or how long it looks that way. God loved us even when we were being a harlot, so love them no matter what too.
 
I think that people need to know each other for some time, before taking the dive towards marriage! For example, my wife and I have been together for 5 years before we said I do! We had our fights before the marriage so that within the me marriage we will know how to handle ourselves and not say the things that will tear us apart!

We need to love and respect ourselves as well, before we can love others! The bible may have a lot of things to say about marriage, but ultimately it comes down to communication! The bible was written a long time ago with laws that have been once again changed to suit man! We have so much more pressures than what was a long time ago! We have to go to work, we have children, cost of living, layoffs!

I have an uncle who is a pastor who speaks to his wife like she is literally, feces, but she still is up in his face and she listens to gospel music and try to tell others how to be men and women, when she herself is living hell with my uncle! To me they should have been divorced long time ago, but many people say that through thick and thin and ups and down rubbish, but in my opinion, when something is broken, then it is broken and you are only living a lie as the love is gone!

Peace and love to all!
 
Wow, there are a lot of long, meaty answers to this inquiry! Mine will be much shorter.

In my personal experience, I've found that divorces result from one or both partners in a marriage deciding to be and to remain selfish, i.e. not loving and serving their spouse as themselves and as Jesus loved and served. And it's pride that is the root of this selfishness (and all associated sin, like adultery, pornography, etc.) in the first place - this is pretty clear many places in the Bible.

So, if after bathing a marriage in prayer the pride and selfishness doesn't begin to break down, I've learned that the marriage has a slim hope of survival.
 
That's true. How can we ask God to be the foundation of a marraige if we don't invite him to be a part of it? If God is not our foundation, we are starting on shacky ground. The cure isn't just prayer, it's God.
 
FormerGodHater said:
Wow, there are a lot of long, meaty answers to this inquiry! Mine will be much shorter.

In my personal experience, I've found that divorces result from one or both partners in a marriage deciding to be and to remain selfish, i.e. not loving and serving their spouse as themselves and as Jesus loved and served. And it's pride that is the root of this selfishness (and all associated sin, like adultery, pornography, etc.) in the first place - this is pretty clear many places in the Bible.

So, if after bathing a marriage in prayer the pride and selfishness doesn't begin to break down, I've learned that the marriage has a slim hope of survival.
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What a great, precise answer.
 
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