What is the Mark of the Beast?

[parousia70]

You never did do that praying thing did you

Every Day!
Praise God!

 

[nonbelieverforums]

You never did do that praying thing did you

Every Day!
Praise God!

I suspect not as I suggested about asking God to reafirm your views.

How are those Internet challenges going? Are you having alot fun and games? Are you doing anything constructive for Christ with them ??

 

[nonbelieverforums]

Cashless society by 2012, says Visa chief

Cashless society by 2012, says Visa chief

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 39676.html

By Tim Webb




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Peter Ayliffe said that, by 2012, using credit and debit cards should be cheaper and more convenient than cash.

Some retailers could soon start surcharging customers if they choose to buy products with cash, because of the greater cost of processing these payments, he warned.

Visa Europe briefed the British Retail Consortium last month on new "contactless" cards that can be waved in front of a scanner to make small payments.

However, the consortium dismissed this vision and claimed that card processing fees, which regulators are investigating, are still too high.

One member of the consurtium said that the estimated "interchange" fee charged to retailers amounts to some 4p for each transaction.

Nick Mourant, treasurer at Tesco, said: "There is a duopoly between Mastercard and Visa in the UK. Their setting of fees is anti-competitive."

 

[nonbelieverforums]

http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/Security ... 7a917.html

Jaikumar Vijayan - Computerworld (US)(NA) (29 May 2009)

Despite fears that RFID chips can be cracked, Canada's own ePassport program is scheduled to roll out by 2011

American travelers returning from Canada, Mexico, Bermuda and the Caribbean by land and sea borders will be required to show U.S. border guards a valid passport, an RFID-enabled passport or so-called enhanced driver's license (EDL) starting June 1. Canadians have about two years to go before the government's ePassport program rolls out

The new travel requirements under the so-called Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) go into effect over concerns that the radio frequency ID-tagged passports are vulnerable to snooping.

Passport Canada's own RFID passport program is slated for rollout in 2011.The ePassport standard is stipulated under the International Civil Aviation Organization and is one of the steps designed to deter terrorist threats. The new passports will enable customs officers to verify passport information with the use of RFID readers, according to Leslie Crone, director of international programs for Passport Canada.

Currently, U.S. citizens can re-enter the country from these four regions with a driver's license and proof of citizenship, such as a birth or naturalization certificate.

The passport cards, about 1 million of which have been issued so far, are designed to be a secure but cheaper alternative to regular passports. The card costs $45 for those 16 and older and $35 for those under 16. In contrast, a regular passport costs $100 for those over 16 and $85 for minors.

The credit card-size passport cards have a vicinity-read radio frequency identification tag that allow Customs and border protection officials to read the cards from 20 to 30 feet away. The goal is to reduce wait times by allowing officials to access an individual's information even before the traveler reaches the border. (The Customs Department provides details on how to use the card for U.S. land border entry on its Web site.)

Critics of the passport card maintain that those features that makes the card convenient to use also pose security and privacy risks. Organizations including the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT) and the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) have noted that the use of vicinity-read or long-range RFID tags heightens the risk of data being skimmed by those with unauthorized card readers because the data is unencrypted as it travels over the air.

Cardholders could unknowingly broadcast their identity information while traveling, opening up the possibility for the data to be stolen and the cards cloned, these groups say.

The CDT said the RFID passports are less secure than U.S. electronic passports, which also use a chip to store a digital image of the passport holder and all of the same data that is visually displayed on the first page of the passport. However, the chips used on electronic passports are proximity-read and the encrypted information on it can only be accessed by swiping the card through a reader at the border crossing. The chip is also embedded into the back cover of the passport and shielded from snooping. No such protections are available with the passport cards, the CDT has noted.

But RFID chips have been cracked in the past.

Underscoring such concerns, security researcher Chris Paget earlier this year demonstrated at a security conference how he had been able to clone RFID passport cards using a $250 card reader purchased off eBay. Paget posted a video of himself driving around San Francisco reading RFID tags from passports and other identity documents using the reader and antenna.

Paget's experiment was based on earlier research at the University of Washington and RSA Labs that showed how the publicly readable data on passport cards could be cloned after a single read.

The researchers also showed how the passport cards and RFID-tagged enhanced driver's licenses issued in Washington state could be read at a distance of up to 50 meters. Even credentials in wallets and in protective sleeves could be clandestinely read but at much closer distances, the research showed.

With only days remaining for WHTI to go into full effect, none of these longstanding issues appear to have been addressed, said Ari Schwartz, a policy analyst at the CDT.

"Our concerns have not been answered. We still have the same concerns that we had," since plans to used RFID technology in passport cards were first announced, Schwartz said. It is a major concern that the same Electronic Product Code (EPC) tags used by retail establishments to track products are being used in identity credentials, with no additional security protections, he added.

 

[abrech]

I remember a time when people thought it might be social security numbers. But, now we have more computer technology. The bar codes have my vote. But we now have chips that can be inserted under the skin. Could it be a combination of all of these things? Just placing my best guess.

 

[Matthew24:34]

I remember a time when people thought it might be social security numbers. But, now we have more computer technology. The bar codes have my vote. But we now have chips that can be inserted under the skin. Could it be a combination of all of these things? Just placing my best guess.

Greetings, abrech: I better question is this--WHEN is the "mark of the beast?" John was clearly shown the things which were in HIS day to SHORTLY take place because the time was THEN near (Rev. 1:1, 3; 22:6, 10). These particular time statements are found in both the first and last chapters of the Revelation. ALL the events of the Revelation are found within that time frame!

Sincerely, Matthew24:34

 

[Matthew24:34]

You never did do that praying thing did you

Every Day!
Praise God!

Greetings, parousia70: I still find it laughable that futurists refuse to accept the plain meanings of such words as "near" and "soon" when they occur in eschatological texts in the NT but then they turn around and use those very terms to state that the Lord is coming "soon" and that the events of the Revelation are "near."

nonbelieversforum even closes his posts with "THIS is the generation that will see the coming of the Lord, and I can prove it." I guess we are to believe that when HE says "THIS generation," he means the generation in which we are now living, but when Jesus said "THIS generation," he actually meant a generation far, far removed from the one in which He was living. He can't have it both ways, and we shouldn't allow him to. Either Jesus meant His generation when He said "THIS generation" just as nbf does, or nbf means a far, far distant generation in the same way he insists Jesus did.

Frankly, I am sick and tired of the futurist abuse of the time words. They can use them in their normal, usual, everyday meanings, but when the Bible does, it intends meanings that are strange, unusual, and even opposite of what they actually convey! And all the while they are doing this, they are accuses preterists of twisting the Scriptures!

Futurists will continue this senseless debate filled with fanciful speculations over the "mark" of the beast unless and until they acknowledge the time restraints in which it is found!

Have a great day in the Lord!

Matthew24:34

 

[whirlwind]

I remember a time when people thought it might be social security numbers. But, now we have more computer technology. The bar codes have my vote. But we now have chips that can be inserted under the skin. Could it be a combination of all of these things? Just placing my best guess.

Greetings, abrech: I better question is this--WHEN is the "mark of the beast?" John was clearly shown the things which were in HIS day to SHORTLY take place because the time was THEN near (Rev. 1:1, 3; 22:6, 10). This particular time statements are found in both the first and last chapters of the Revelation. ALL the events of the Revelation are found within that time frame!

Sincerely, Matthew24:34

Good morning Matthew,

"For the time is at hand." [Revelation 1:3] And it is, for every soul...no matter when that soul lives. But, John also wrote....Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; [Revelation 1:19] So, all the events John wrote of were not just about one time frame (they were prophetic), until we get to.....

Revelation 22:6 And he said unto me, "These sayings are faithful and true: and the LORD God of the holy prophets sent His angel to shew unto His servants the things which must shortly be done.

"Shortly be done," takes us back to the time of the angel speaking to John in Revelation 1:1. And then, John gave the message to the churches for what was written applies to all of us no matter if we lived during the time of Jesus or now.

As far as the "mark of the beast," folks have taken his mark since the garden of Eden. Cain being the first official member of that club.

 

[Matthew24:34]

I remember a time when people thought it might be social security numbers. But, now we have more computer technology. The bar codes have my vote. But we now have chips that can be inserted under the skin. Could it be a combination of all of these things? Just placing my best guess.

Greetings, abrech: I better question is this--WHEN is the "mark of the beast?" John was clearly shown the things which were in HIS day to SHORTLY take place because the time was THEN near (Rev. 1:1, 3; 22:6, 10). This particular time statements are found in both the first and last chapters of the Revelation. ALL the events of the Revelation are found within that time frame!

Sincerely, Matthew24:34

Good morning Matthew,

"For the time is at hand." [Revelation 1:3] And it is, for every soul...no matter when that soul lives. But, John also wrote....Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; [Revelation 1:19] So, all the events John wrote of were not just about one time frame (they were prophetic), until we get to.....

Revelation 22:6 And he said unto me, "These sayings are faithful and true: and the LORD God of the holy prophets sent His angel to shew unto His servants the things which must shortly be done.

"Shortly be done," takes us back to the time of the angel speaking to John in Revelation 1:1. And then, John gave the message to the churches for what was written applies to all of us no matter if we lived during the time of Jesus or now.

As far as the "mark of the beast," folks have taken his mark since the garden of Eden. Cain being the first official member of that club.

 

[whirlwind]

About what?

 

[herald]

A sign of The Antichrist is "...he thinks to change times and law." Dan 7:25. There is only one time in His Covenant - the Sabbath.

Rome says, "Of course the Catholic Church claims the change was her act...and the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters." Thomas, H.F., Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons in answer to a letter regarding the change.

Again Rome says, "It's (Sunday's change for Saturday) the mark of our authority to OVER-RULE God's law." Father Enright, C.S.S.R., President of Redemptorist College, History of the Sabbath, p. 802.

"Sunday is our mark of authority...The Church IS ABOVE THE BIBLE and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, Sept 1, 1923.

"The Bible says, 'Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day.' The Catholic Church says, 'No! by my divine power, I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week. And, lo! The entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church." Father Enright.

A few blasphemous claims appear in the ecclesiastical (Roman Catholic) dictionary by Lucius Ferraris, entitled Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Vol. V1, pgs. 438,442 article "Pope." The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1913 edition, Vol. V1 p. 48 speaks of this book as "a veritable encyclopedia of religious knowledge," and "a precious mine of information."

"The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God."

"He is likewise the divine monarch and supreme emperor and king of kings."

"The Pope is of such lofty and supreme dignity that, properly speaking, he has not been established in any rank of dignity, but rather has been placed upon the very summit of dignities."

"Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions."

"So that is it were possible that the angels might err in faith, or might think contrary to the faith, they could be excommunicated by the Pope."

"The Pope is as it were God on earth,sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief king of kings, having plenitude of power to whom has been entrusted by the omnipotent God direction not only of the earthly, but also of the heavenly kingdom."

"The Pope can modify divine law since his power is not of man but of God."

"For thou art another God on earth." - History of the Councils, vol. X1V, p. 109.

"The Pope is the supreme judge...he is the vicegerent of Christ, who is not only priest forever, but also king of kings and lord of lords." - Vatican Council, p. 220

"Thus the priest may, in a certain manner, be called THE CREATOR OF HIS CREATOR, since by saying the words of the consecration, HE CREATES as it were, JESUS in the sacrament, by giving him a sacramental existence, and produces him as a VICTIM to the eternal Father. As in creating the world, it was sufficient for God to have said, let it be made and it was created. He spake and they were made, so it is sufficIent for the priest to say, 'Hoc est corpus meum,' and behold the bread is no longer the bread, but the body of Christ. 'The power of the priest,' says St. Bernadine of Sienna, 'is the power of the divine person; FOR THE TRANSUBSTANTIATION OF THE BREAD REQUIRES AS MUCH POWER AS THE CREATION OF THE WORLD."

Antichrist also means, "False Christ."

i AM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH EDITING THIS POST

 

[Matthew24:34]

The Mark of the Beast
Getting the mark of the beast will have eternal consequences.
What will happen to you if you get the mark of the beast? What if you refuse the mark of the beast?
Revelation 13 contains a Bible prophecy that will be fulfilled very soon. It will affect you and every other person on earth.
Satan does not want you to know what the mark of the beast is.
The book of Revelation in the Bible gives us this strong warning:
“If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath.†Revelation 14:9,10
If you get the mark of the beast God’s complete wrath will be poured out on you.
What is the Mark of the Beast?
The mark of the beast is a combination of letters and symbols that will be physically and permanently placed on your forehead or right hand. Most people will consider it an honor to receive the mark. It will be like a key for them that will open doors of acceptance, prosperity and peace.
The mark of the beast will be enforced. The people who believe in the beast and worship him will be glad to get his mark. "He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead The mark of the beast will be placed on people who worship the beast and choose to receive his mark. There will be severe penalties for refusing the mark and great rewards for getting it.
Revelation 13:16 Almost everyone in the world will get the mark of the beast. There are many reasons why people will choose to get the mark:

The beast is not a person or a human organization. The beast is Satan himself. But when Satan comes as the beast he will appear in a glorious body. People will not recognize him as the Devil. He will claim to be God and most people will believe that he is God.
The mark of the beast is an outward, physical symbol, showing that the wearer has chosen to worship the beast and receive him as God.
Beast is Satan, claiming to be God
The beast is Satan in a brilliant, perfect body. He will appear to people as a glorious being and he claims to be God. He will have many names, all of which are different names for God. In fact, he will have a total of six hundred and sixty-six (666) names.
Revelation 13:17,18
The mark of the beast is the name of the beast or any of his 666 names. In other words, you receive the mark of the beast by taking any one of the beast’s 666 names.
So why does he need so many names? Because he wants to appeal to every person on earth. He carefully select his blasphemous names so that one of his names will appeal to each person on earth.
He will come as Allah or Imam Mahdi to the Muslims, Maitreya Buddha to the Buddhists, Jesus Christ to the Christians, Krishna to the Hindus, Messiah to the Jews, Saoshyant to the Zoroastrians, the “Dark Lord†to satanists, and so on through the whole list of 666 names.
His goal is to win the worship and allegiance of every person on earth.
What does the Mark of the Beast
look like?
The mark of the beast will be a literal, physical combination of letters and symbols. It will be permanently and prominently engraved or tattooed on the forehead or right hand of each person who gets the mark of the beast.
The beast is Satan, coming to earth, looking like God and saying that he is God. Each of his names will be blasphemous, because he is not God.
Does the mark of the beast look nice?
The mark of the beast will look attractive and beautiful. It will please the senses and will excite the admiration of those who see it. Most people who wear it will be proud to have it.
The mark will be plainly visible for all to see. Your friends and family will be able to see if you have received the mark. Your employer can look at you and see the mark. When you go shopping the store clerk will be able to see if you are wearing the mark of the beast.
But spiritually speaking, it is not wise to get the mark of the beast. Remember YAHWEH GOD had already spelled out in Leviticus 19:28 do not tattoo your self, for this reason.
Please understand that YAHWEH God will not allow anyone to receive the mark of the beast unless they choose to get it. People will not be physically forced against their will. But most people will choose to worship the beast and to receive his mark.

:amen

You say that the prophecy of Revelation 13 will be fulfilled SOON. What do you mean by soon? Are you saying that it is not to occur for thousands of years in our future? Is that what you mean by "soon?" The reason for my confusion is that when futurists such as yourself see the word "soon" in the NT, it doesn't really mean "soon"--it means "later," much, much later. Or do you mean that the fulfillment is imminent; it could happen any time? When James wrote "the coming of the Lord is AT HAND," futurists such as yourself want to make that mean that James meant that it could happen at any time! Even the entire Revelation begins and ends with this: John was shown those things which were in his day to SHORTLY take place because the time for fulfillment was NEAR or SOON! You do not take those time indicators at their face value. Why should we allow you to use them and expect us to take them at face value?

Why should I take soon to mean soon when YOU use it when according to you soon is not allowed to have that same meaning in the NT?

Really, futurists, you need to stop using those time indicators. They have no meaning!

Sincerely, Matthew24:34

 

[parousia70]

"The Bible says, 'Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day.' The Catholic Church says, 'No! by my divine power, I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week. And, lo! The entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church." Father Enright.

Last I checked, every Catholic Church on earth celebrates Mass on Saturday.
Every one.

 

[parousia70]

Antichrist also means, "False Christ."

The BIBLE gives NO SUCH MEANING to "antichrist"

Only the traditions of Man give "antichrist" the meaning of "false christ"

Scripture does not.

 

[whirlwind]

Antichrist also means, "False Christ."

The BIBLE gives NO SUCH MEANING to "antichrist"

Only the traditions of Man give "antichrist" the meaning of "false christ"

Scripture does not.

Anti christ #500 antichristos, from 473 and 5547; an opponent of the Messiah. #473 anti, opposite, i.e. instead or because of (rarely in addition to): for, in the room of. Often used in composition to denote contrast, requital, substitution, correspondence, etc.


He is coming "instead of Christ." In the place of Christ, he and his twisted doctrine in the place of the true Word. That is the deception of end times.