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What is your message of salvation to the lost?

AVBunyan

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When you run accross the lost what is your message of salvation? What do you tell them to do or believe? In other words - How do you witness or lead someone to the Lord?

God bless
 
"Preach the gospel at all times. When necessary, use words."

Francis of Assisi

And thats good enough for me.
 
belovedwolfofgod said:
"Preach the gospel at all times. When necessary, use words."
But what is your gospel? What do you actually tell them? How do you tell them to be saved?

God bless
 
I haven't had much experience with this, but I think that telling them that Jesus, who is God, died on the cross and was ressurected to cleanse us from our sins. All we have to do is beleive in Him and accept Him as our Lord and Savior and we are saved. God loves us no matter what we do, all we have to do is turn to Him. That seems like a good start. I think the emphasis on God's love is important, that faith in Him is what is needed.
 
Following the lead of Jesus, we need to use the law to show sin [as a school master] and drive the sinner to Christ...

Me: did you get one of these [handing them a Gospel tract]; it’s a Gospel tract.
Lost: [takes it or rejects it]
Me: Do you come from a Christian background?
Lost: [they answer]
Me: Can I ask you a question, do you consider yourself a good person?
Lost: in General terms, sure.
Me: Have you ever told a lie?
Lost: Well, yes, but beside that…I’m a good person.
Me: if I told a lie, what would you call me?
Lost: Ahh, what do you mean? Oh, I’d call you a liar.
Me: So, someone who lies is a liar, right?
Lost: Yah.
Me: Have you ever stolen anything?
Lost: Well, no.
Me: are you sure, you just admitted you’re a liar [jokingly]
Lost: Yah, ok…maybe a long time ago.
Me: Jesus tells us that if you look at another with lust in your heart that you’ve committed adultery, have you ever looked at a women/man with lust in your heart?
Lost: Have you?
Me: Yes I have [turning the convo back to them], but I’m a sinner. What about you?
Lost: Yes I have.
Me: Have you ever heard of the 10 Commandments? Thou shalt not lie, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not commit adultery? Do you realize by your own testimony you’ve broken the commandments of God?
Lost: Yah, but my God won’t send me to hell.
Me: Yah, he won’t send you to hell because he’s a god of your own imagination…and a false god. You broke the second commandment, not to have false gods.
[Most of the time people get real quite. I was speaking with someone a week or so ago and he shut right up when he realized he was a sinner according to the Law.]
If you were to be judged by the 10 commandments, “ifâ€Â, would you be guilty or innocent?
Lost: I guess I’d be guilty.
Me: Does that bother you, cause it bothers me. Do you know what the penalty for sin is, it’s death. Did you know that Christ died to take your place? Did you know if you believe in Christ, trust in His work on the cross to pay for your sins, you can have eternal life? [Using Scripture when you feel lead to share it...etc.]

Follow up with Scriptures on Christ’s atoning work.

http://wayofthemaster.com/

The link has powerful video taken on the streets where people are confronted with the law of God, one young lady, when she realizes she's a sinner looks like she's going to cry. The Holy Spirit convicts her and you can see it.

Peace
 
Sinner's Prayer

Do you believe the sinner's prayer used during altar calls is solid theologically?

My church does this and it bothers me.
 
I don't like the idea of calling someone a liar, a thief and then presenting God's love. I'm the type of person that talks to someone in a non-threatening, friendly way. A relationship builder. I talk about love and the love I've experienced. I don't believe in hellfire and brimstone preaching, because that gets you nowhere. I preach love and fellowship and the joys of a relationship, and when they ask how to get that relationship, I open up to Romans 10:9.

That is what I do.
 
I don't try and lead anyone to Christ but I do sow seed.

I have collaborated with a friend who has written a booklet entitled:

If You Care
(READ THIS)
The Gospel

Faith - The Key
Jesus - The Door
Holy Spirit - The Deposit

If they care, they will read it, if not it doesn't matter. If they read it and don't understand it (ie the Holy Spirit hasn't opened their eyes) then again, it doesn't matter. If they do read it and they do understand it then we have something to talk about and that excites me.

BTW if anyone would like it, I can email it.
 
Re: Sinner's Prayer

JM said:
Do you believe the sinner's prayer used during altar calls is solid theologically?
In the old days there were no "altar calls" - this is a farily new invention. In the old days it was the preaching of the word and the power of the Spirit - they never even gave invitations. Not saying they are unscriptural but we've learned to depend oupn them.

Regarding the "sinners prayer" - I never seek to get someone to pray out on the street until we've gone thorugh the plan of salvation first throughly (if there is time) and I could tell they might be sincere and even then I make sure that they know prayinig a prayer doesn't save them - the Lord Jesus Christ and what He did at Calvary saves.

God bless 8-)
 
Johny said:
I haven't had much experience with this, but I think that telling them that Jesus, who is God, died on the cross and was ressurected to cleanse us from our sins. All we have to do is beleive in Him and accept Him as our Lord and Savior and we are saved. God loves us no matter what we do, all we have to do is turn to Him. That seems like a good start. I think the emphasis on God's love is important, that faith in Him is what is needed.
Well Johnny, couple the above with some prayer and tears and you are a head of most these days.

Good job -

God bless
 
Ryan Collins said:
I don't like the idea of calling someone a liar, a thief and then presenting God's love. I'm the type of person that talks to someone in a non-threatening, friendly way. A relationship builder. I talk about love and the love I've experienced. I don't believe in hellfire and brimstone preaching, because that gets you nowhere. I preach love and fellowship and the joys of a relationship, and when they ask how to get that relationship, I open up to Romans 10:9.

That is what I do.

AND how many have you lead to confess Christ? I understand what you're saying, I just disagree. For example take the women at the well and how Jesus used the law to confront her in her sin. If people don't believe their sinners, what in the world would they need saviour for?

On Way of the Master they give an example of a man on an air plan who is given a parachute. The flight attendant hands him the parachute and tells him he needs it. The guy puts it on and soon realizes the parachute is heavy and as he looks around he realizes theirs not many wearing them so he takes it off.

It’s the same with faith in Christ. Some will confess Christ as Lord and Savior without understanding why, they see it as a way to improve themselves, which is not faith at all and instead of having a heart felt need to forgiven sins they do so for different reasons. When the man with the parachute feels the pressure of life, he might buck off the parachute, he doesn't understand why he needs it.

Picture the same guy on the air plan. The flight attendant hands him a parachute and tells him the plan could drop out of the sky at any moment, put this parachute on to save your life. Now the guy wears the parachute and doesn’t feel the burden because he knows why he needs the parachute. The pressures of life don't bother him as much because he knows a risen Savior, he knows he's been forgiven much.

Watch the video on the site, people make decisions in their hearts and you can see it on their faces. God is Great!
 
I have been witnessing very often and I usually ask questions depend on the person and try to convince them why we need Jesus.

I always add that once we accept Him, this is only a start and we should strive to follow and serve Him by reading the New Testament.

I never try to convince them to attend church because of so many misleading Christianity in the organized churches.
 
gingercat said:
1. I have been witnessing very often and I usually ask questions depend on the person and try to convince them why we need Jesus.

2. ...this is only a start and we should strive to follow and serve Him by reading the New Testament.

3. I never try to convince them to attend church because of so many misleading Christianity in the organized churches.
1. Ok then what is your message - how do you tell someone to be saved? I've yet to see a clear presentation of justificatioin by you and I've gone throuh most of your posts. I may have missed it but I don't think so.

2. Only a start??? - Sounds like works to me.

3. Then you are unscriptural - God's method of ministering to the individual is through a local church. Paul wriote mostly to local churches. If you are seeking to do anything apart from a local church then God will not or cannot bless it.

That fact that you have stood in judgement on local churches does not change the fact that God blesses only through a local church.

And the fact that you are turning people away from the local church means shows your ignorance of scripture and are doing the work of the devil.

I detect many of you are against the local church - you are unscriptural and selfish.

Have a nice day 8-)
 
AVBunyan said:
When you run accross the lost what is your message of salvation? What do you tell them to do or believe? In other words - How do you witness or lead someone to the Lord?

God bless

My message for an individual is to do and say whatever the Spirit leads me to do.

To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law. 22 To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some. (1 Corinthians 9).
 
AVBunyan said:
2. Only a start??? - Sounds like works to me.

Yes, it is only beginning of Christianity. Jesus is expecting us to be faithful and loyal to Him until we die. The way most churches are doing is misleading and it is the devil's version of salvation.

I will not debate on this; you asked and I answered what I have been doing. Debating is just a waste of time because neither of us will budge from our postition. You have been making your position clear; I understand and I totally disagree. I dont believe you are interpreting in the whole contxet of the New testament.
 
JM said:
Ryan Collins said:
I don't like the idea of calling someone a liar, a thief and then presenting God's love. I'm the type of person that talks to someone in a non-threatening, friendly way. A relationship builder. I talk about love and the love I've experienced. I don't believe in hellfire and brimstone preaching, because that gets you nowhere. I preach love and fellowship and the joys of a relationship, and when they ask how to get that relationship, I open up to Romans 10:9.

That is what I do.

AND how many have you lead to confess Christ? I understand what you're saying, I just disagree. For example take the women at the well and how Jesus used the law to confront her in her sin. If people don't believe their sinners, what in the world would they need saviour for?

On Way of the Master they give an example of a man on an air plan who is given a parachute. The flight attendant hands him the parachute and tells him he needs it. The guy puts it on and soon realizes the parachute is heavy and as he looks around he realizes theirs not many wearing them so he takes it off.

It’s the same with faith in Christ. Some will confess Christ as Lord and Savior without understanding why, they see it as a way to improve themselves, which is not faith at all and instead of having a heart felt need to forgiven sins they do so for different reasons. When the man with the parachute feels the pressure of life, he might buck off the parachute, he doesn't understand why he needs it.

Picture the same guy on the air plan. The flight attendant hands him a parachute and tells him the plan could drop out of the sky at any moment, put this parachute on to save your life. Now the guy wears the parachute and doesn’t feel the burden because he knows why he needs the parachute. The pressures of life don't bother him as much because he knows a risen Savior, he knows he's been forgiven much.

Watch the video on the site, people make decisions in their hearts and you can see it on their faces. God is Great!

There are easier ways than to show that they need Christ without calling them a liar and a thief. I disagree with that. You come to my town and try talking to some of the people I speak to and use your method, and I reckon you'll more than likely get punched in the face. I'm not trying to be mean, while that method works and I'm not saying you shouldn't use it, it's definitely not for everyone. My friends, would definitely get pissed and do two things 1). Turn their backs and go back to living their life. 2). Get pissed and hit you.

Again, I'm not bashing you and your method, but, I'm more into showing God's love through my actions, my lifestyle, and showing them what he did on the cross, without calling them a liar and a thief.
 
gingercat said:
Jesus is expecting us to be faithful and loyal to Him until we die.
And this is what you and others are counting on to get you to heaven - you being faithful and you being loyal to him. You are trusting you and not Christ. This is called self-righteous.

We grace believers believe in being faithful and loyal after we've been regenerated but we understand that our walk has nothing to do with our justification. Our justification is based upon what Jesus did at Calvary not what we do.

And Ginger you cannot see that - do you know why? The gospel of Jesus Christ is hid from you. All you can see if your efforts.
 
AVBunyan said:
gingercat said:
Jesus is expecting us to be faithful and loyal to Him until we die.
And this is what you and others are counting on to get you to heaven - you being faithful and you being loyal to him. You are trusting you and not Christ. This is called self-righteous.

We grace believers believe in being faithful and loyal after we've been regenerated but we understand that our walk has nothing to do with our justification. Our justification is based upon what Jesus did at Calvary not what we do.

And Ginger you cannot see that - do you know why? The gospel of Jesus Christ is hid from you. All you can see if your efforts.

No, I am reading the Bible and following what it says. I don't follow your interpretation or your theologeans. thanks.

Why do you want every one to follow your ways? Why can't you just say read the New Testameant and follow what it says?

You don't think everyone has ability to read the Bible? How arrogant of you.
 
AV,

We know by fruit if someone is of God or not; Most chruchgoers are not committed Christians: that is the fruit of Calvinistic teachings. Your fruit proves your are not of God. How simple.

You cannot see this simple thing and you are the one who is blind.
 
AVBunyan said:
We grace believers believe in being faithful and loyal after we've been regenerated but we understand that our walk has nothing to do with our justification. Our justification is based upon what Jesus did at Calvary not what we do.

And Ginger you cannot see that - do you know why? The gospel of Jesus Christ is hid from you. All you can see if your efforts.

Amen! Amen! Amen! Jesus did it all, we have eternal life with Him by believing in Him. If we need good works and a whole bunchg og guidelines, the why did Jesus need to die on the cross? Please don't underestimate His death and ressurection, He did it for you.
 
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