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what makes one true, and the other not?

Now, even Indian tribe gambling has begun to corrupt them. I've read more than a few articles, stating finacial corruption in there ranks.
Money is the root of all evil. And Power corrupts absolutely. Leaders of these people are being groomed for service into there ranks, like Skull and Bones did for Mr. Bush!
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what else is there to do when all of your land (the suitbale land) is stolen from your people? you want to stay your own sovereign nation, as once, but you cant really, so you are oafforded a few abiliteis to make money instead of havign to fall into the suicide holes they call "reservations" that means starting a casino, or selling tax free cigs and gas.. Thats about all we have reduced them to.

Money is the root of all evil, and power corupts absolutely right?

so don't donate at church, because you are just giving the church money for evil. Don't think a preacher is a powerful person, because it will corrupt him (her if your in a cool ministry that allows equality) Don't vote republican, or democrat, go independent (still rich, but FAR less)a little evil is better than the ton we get wiht Bush and Kerry and other presidents (COUGH NIXON)

anywho, back to the beginning. sort of.

It seems that whenever i point out anything that might be against chrsitianity, How it doesn't make sense etc, It is the work of Satan, corrupting me.

Anyone else see this as like, a fail safe? I mean, thats exactly what it comes out to me.

"the bible is the only thing that proves christianity, science disproves it"

"nuh uh, the devil is causing you to believe science"
"whos aid the devil exists"
"the bible"
"thats not making any sense, your defending something, with itself, no other evidence still"
"the devil must have gotten to you"


That seems to be where this conversation is heading again..
 
peace4all said:
Now, even Indian tribe gambling has begun to corrupt them. I've read more than a few articles, stating finacial corruption in there ranks.
Money is the root of all . And Power corrupts absolutely. Leaders of these people are being groomed for service into there ranks, like Skull and Bones did for Mr. Bush!
Click to expand...

what else is there to do when all of your land (the suitbale land) is stolen from your people? you want to stay your own sovereign nation, as once, but you cant really, so you are oafforded a few abiliteis to make money instead of havign to fall into the suicide holes they call "reservations" that means starting a casino, or selling tax free cigs and gas.. Thats about all we have reduced them to.

Money is the root of all , and power corupts absolutely right?

so don't donate at church, because you are just giving the church money for . Don't think a preacher is a powerful person, because it will corrupt him (her if your in a cool ministry that allows equality) Don't vote republican, or democrat, go independent (still rich, but FAR less)a little is better than the ton we get wiht Bush and Kerry and other presidents (COUGH NIXON)

anywho, back to the beginning. sort of.

It seems that whenever i point out anything that might be against chrsitianity, How it doesn't make sense etc, It is the work of Satan, corrupting me.

Anyone else see this as like, a fail safe? I mean, thats exactly what it comes out to me.

"the bible is the only thing that proves christianity, science disproves it"

"nuh uh, the devil is causing you to believe science"
"whos aid the devil exists"
"the bible"
"thats not making any sense, your defending something, with itself, no other evidence still"
"the devil must have gotten to you"


That seems to be where this conversation is heading again..
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Peace, I doubt if you've ran into a whole lot of true christianity in your life. We live in a day of 'religion'.
We as Christians aren't giving unbelievers a reason to believe because the power of God isn't evident in our lives most of the time. Some Christians don't even believe God can heal...The creator of the universe no less.
The word of God says "if they have a form of godliness yet deny the power...stay away from them"
Do you know any christians who are laying their hands on the sick and they are being healed...Do you see any miracles taking place in Christianity that you felt was real?
I seriously doubt it, and I am as guilty as anybody else.
Paul said.." I didn't come to you with eloquent words but with (demonstration) of the power of God."
We've became just as faithless as the world, and the darkness testifies to that fact.
Jesus said "when I come back will I find faith in the earth?" Let me answer that....Not much.
I hope you will seek God and let Him show you who He is...It's not what you think.
God is awesome and powerful and he's a good God.
I hope you'll seek Him with all your heart and allow Him to prove it to you one day.
He has healed me more than once, He has destroyed strongholds in my life...and He is real.
Only he can fill those voids in your heart, they are reserved for Him alone.
He loves you.
 
You know. its weird.

I think this is the FIRST thread, I have ever started, where, I have had people go out of their way, to be overly nice, to try to explain in a sensible, fair way, that can, while not agree with my statements, respect them..

DId that glitch in the forums like, kick out the usual members that moan and groan at everything I say?

This is unexpected and really cool.

and thanks to this forum, I have realized slowly that, "Christianity" in america, TRUE Christianity, is about as equal as atheism it seems. only about 2/10 people that I run into that say they are christians, are actually christians, and follow Christ, and Follow God, etc.. The rest just hide behind the fact that they might go to church occasionally, or that they read and interpret a few verses of the bible... If only that huge amount of "christians" could either BECOME Chrisitians, or drop their shennanigans, I don't think America would have really, any disputes about religion in public or anywhere, becuase it wouldn't be a problem.
 
peace4all said:
and thanks to this forum, I have realized slowly that, "Christianity" in america, TRUE Christianity, is about as equal as atheism it seems. only about 2/10 people that I run into that say they are christians, are actually christians, and follow Christ, and Follow God, etc.. The rest just hide behind the fact that they might go to church occasionally, or that they read and interpret a few verses of the bible... If only that huge amount of "christians" could either BECOME Chrisitians, or drop their shennanigans, I don't think America would have really, any disputes about religion in public or anywhere, becuase it wouldn't be a problem.
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Excellent points...


As far as your comments above about science and such, I agree there also.

I believe that we have been given an accelerating inteligence that is finding wonderful things about the world and it is a shame that we try and just so easily dismiss them.

I don't think it such a sin to try and work out the things we read in the Bible against what we learn in the world. Does the creation story have to be literally days? Absolutely not. I think our knowlege of the world and the Bible story go hand in hand. The world was already in existence before God organized the matter into what it is today. I think the Bible is very clear on that. How long was it here? I guess it could have been billions and billions or more years. No issue there.

And what about the days in the Bible? Not an issue there either. I think that we could very well state that the creation was done in periods called days that could have been umpteen years as well. The light from the sun and stars takes time to get here, right? The plants and the life take time to grow and form and take over.

I guess I just think it silly when, like you said, people take the questions of someone "outside" of Christianity (as if we can put someone outside of the love of an all loving God :roll: ) and treat them with such disdain as to say they are just duped by satan. Wow, what a powerhouse we accuse him of being...... :evil:
 
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