What No Futurist Believes

[Alabaster]

Study and take in the whole counsel of God, rather than a few verses from one small portion of scripture.[didnt you just say JESUS is the word of God? Like last day?
Why the double talk Allie? Cults use plain terms with special inhouse only definitions, there no room for that kind of thing in the church. There has to be a lot better reason than your assertions to alter scripture. Especially plain straight forward quotes from Jesus Christ himself. You have already and often claimed there will be all kinds of historical event after the resurrection. You cant go back now and have a private interpretation and define the terms to suit your needs.

I know lets start with a list of all the biblical writers of the NT that you think would contradict Jesus and place time and history after the last day.

I don't use double talk, nor do I use private interpretation.

 

[Hitch]

I don't use double talk, nor do I use private interpretation.

Ok Please define for me ' last' and 'day' .

Example ; If the rent is due at the last day of the month and its a 31 day month what day ,by number, is the rent due?

 

[reba]

Originally Posted by Alabaster
There are two events. One is the rapture of the Church and the other is the great harvest of the wicked and righteous who remain at the end of Tribulation when the Lord returns bodily to earth with His Church, the Bride. Every eye at that time will see Him coming.

Alabaster, Do you understand the above statement to coincide with Matthew 13:30?

Yes, and Matthew 13:40; 49-50.

Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

Mat 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
Mat 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.



The Scripture clearly has the gathering of the tares first. I read the post ... the rapture first.....

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Resurrection 2 occurs just before the Millenial Reign:

4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

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No NJBeliver
You are decieving people on this board.You try to decieve people in the nicest way possible too.
You said thatr the resureection that takes place just before the Millenial reign is the second ressurection ,when the word of God plainly says it is the first ressuection.

Rev 20;6
6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.


Quit trying to decieve the people on this board with your lies.
Admit you were wrong and quit trying to make God out to be the lier.
The word says it is the first ressurection and it is just that.The first ressurection.
Period

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Alabaster, Do you understand the above statement to coincide with Matthew 13:30?
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

Mat 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
Mat 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.



The Scripture clearly has the gathering of the tares first. I read the post ... the rapture first.....

This coincides with Mt 24;37-41
Notice those who were taken away in verse39.

Therefore of the two that are in the field ,one is taken and the other left.
It is the wicked one that is taken away.

 

[Alabaster]

This coincides with Mt 24;37-41
Notice those who were taken away in verse39.

Therefore of the two that are in the field ,one is taken and the other left.
It is the wicked one that is taken away.

When Jesus comes bodily to earth, the wicked will be harvested out of the earth, and will die. The righteous will continue on living and working in the earth as Jesus comes with His Bride and sets up His Kingdom.

Isaiah 65:20-25 NLT
20 “No longer will babies die when only a few days old.
No longer will adults die before they have lived a full life.
No longer will people be considered old at one hundred!
Only the cursed will die that young!
21 In those days people will live in the houses they build
and eat the fruit of their own vineyards.
22 Unlike the past, invaders will not take their houses
and confiscate their vineyards.
For my people will live as long as trees,
and my chosen ones will have time to enjoy their hard-won gains.
23 They will not work in vain,
and their children will not be doomed to misfortune.
For they are people blessed by the Lord,
and their children, too, will be blessed.
24 I will answer them before they even call to me.
While they are still talking about their needs,
I will go ahead and answer their prayers!
25 The wolf and the lamb will feed together.
The lion will eat hay like a cow.
But the snakes will eat dust.
In those days no one will be hurt or destroyed on my holy mountain.
I, the Lord, have spoken!â€

 

[Hitch]

That's just nasty and imbecilic.

Well Ive asked you many times to quote Jesus in support of your position, as they say ,actions speak louder than words. Besides what can you expect from a red letter boy?

Completion of all things occurs at the Judgment Day. I am sure that is what Jesus was referring to.

see above

There is the Rapture, which includes the raising of all the dead in Christ, but He wasn't referring to that specific event. He was speaking to the second death--the second event where all the remaining dead will resurrect to stand before the Great White Throne.

see above

The Church doesn't stand before that throne. We will already be immortal at that point and be witnesses to Judgment.

 

[Alabaster]

Well Ive asked you many times to quote Jesus in support of your position, as they say ,actions speak louder than words. Besides what can you expect from a red letter boy?

 

[Hitch]

Like I said you dont care for what Jesus had to say, it shows in your face.

But then if you could use what Jesus said you would have posted it long before now. heh heh

But this thread is about what Jesus said , so why are you here?

 

[Alabaster]

Like I said you dont care for what Jesus had to say, it shows in your face.

But then if you could use what Jesus said you would have posted it long before now. heh heh

But this thread is about what Jesus said , so why are you here?

What you said is wrong, of course.

 

[Hitch]

What you said is wrong, of course.

Well Allie prove me wrong and write a nice long detailed post quoting Jesus on the resurrection in support of your position.

 

[Alabaster]

Well Allie prove me wrong and write a nice long detailed post quoting Jesus on the resurrection in support of your position.

What I said you are wrong about is your disgusting snipe about me.

 

[Hitch]

What I said you are wrong about is your disgusting snipe about me.

I reckon you've written quite a few posts about the resurrection and rapture and all .

How many were based on what Jesus said about the resurrection ?

How many quoted Jesus on the resurrection ?

 

[Alabaster]

I reckon you've written quite a few posts about the resurrection and rapture and all .

How many were based on what Jesus said about the resurrection ?

How many quoted Jesus on the resurrection ?

You do the investigation and get back to me.

 

[Hitch]

You do the investigation and get back to me.

I'll take that to mean 0.

 

[Alabaster]

I'll take that to mean 0.

Your reckoner must be broken.

 

[Hitch]

Your reckoner must be broken.

Well you're welcome to correct my guess.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

When Jesus comes bodily to earth, the wicked will be harvested out of the earth, and will die. The righteous will continue on living and working in the earth as Jesus comes with His Bride and sets up His Kingdom.

When did Jesus say he would come any other time?
Have you filled Jesus in on this top secret pre trib rapture?
He doesnt seem to know anything about it.

 

[Alabaster]

When did Jesus say he would come any other time?
Have you filled Jesus in on this top secret pre trib rapture?
He doesnt seem to know anything about it.

Your snippiness aside, the pre-Trib rapture is no secret. The Bridegroom will come in keeping with the ancient Jewish wedding custom, and take His waiting Bride!

The world will take notice.

What you were responding to was my mention of the Second Coming---a different event.

 

[Hitch]

Your snippiness aside, the pre-Trib rapture is no secret. The Bridegroom will come in keeping with the ancient Jewish wedding custom, and take His waiting Bride!

The world will take notice.

What you were responding to was my mention of the Second Coming---a different event.

Like I said ,futurist dont believe what Jesus had to say.