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What should be the Christian position on immigration?

so i guess my state should start sucking in ocean water to provide. water ,allow migrants to live in substandard buildings and ignore fire codes .



seen it .
 
EvolvingChristian said:
33 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

That passage is pretty clear. Based on that commandment, are we obligated to accept any and all immigrants into our nation regardless of their beliefs?
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I think you are misapplying the meaning of the Scripture. Searching the Bible I cannot find anything that talks about a requirement from God to allow foreigners to cross borders without restriction. What I do find is that once we do allow them and they are within our borders we are to treat them with respect, dignity, and apply the same laws to them that we apply to ourselves. Here are some examples.

“When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God."
Leviticus 19:33-34 ESV

"There shall be one law for the native and for the stranger who sojourns among you.”
Exodus 12:49 ESV

“You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt.
Exodus 22:21 ESV

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
Romans 13:1-7 ESV
 
EvolvingChristian said:
As an American Christian, I am conflicted. I believe that immigrants should be required to sign a pledge that they support the U.S. constitution as a system of governance over any other system, secular or religious. If an immigrant believes that Sharia Law should be the law of the U.S. then, in my opinion, they should NOT be welcome to emigrate here. Instead, they should immigrate somewhere that has Sharia Law. Would Jesus support such a practice?

Basically, I believe we should accept all immigrants as long as they support the U.S. Constitution. If and when they express support for a different type of system in place of the constitution, they should have their residency revoked and should be deported.
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Consider this. If one supports the US Constitution that same constitution gives that person a right to express his/her different views for all are guaranteed the right to free speech per the 1st Amendment. There is nothing in the constitution that defines what one must believe.
 
WIP said:
Consider this. If one supports the US Constitution that same constitution gives that person a right to express his/her different views for all are guaranteed the right to free speech per the 1st Amendment. There is nothing in the constitution that defines what one must believe.
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America has its values and principles as laid out in the U.S. constitution and the Bill of Rights. If one opposes those values and principles, they shouldn't reside in the U.S. It would be like a Christian wanting to join a nudist colony.
 
EvolvingChristian said:
America has its values and principles as laid out in the U.S. constitution and the Bill of Rights. If one opposes those values and principles, they shouldn't reside in the U.S. It would be like a Christian wanting to join a nudist colony.
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How do you think the 27 Amendments came about? They were not part of the original accepted final draft of the constitution but were added later. The last one was added as recently as 1992. Why is that? Because people have different viewpoints. The Constitution is not written in stone. It is a living, growing document and when enough people wish to make changes it can be done. If I read the entire thing, it's possible there may be parts that I might disagree with. By your assertion, I therefore would not belong in this country. Personally, I have to disagree. This is what makes this country great. We have the right to free speech including criticizing our government and ergo, our constitution without risk of persecution.
 
WIP said:
How do you think the 27 Amendments came about? They were not part of the original accepted final draft of the constitution but were added later. The last one was added as recently as 1992. Why is that? Because people have different viewpoints. The Constitution is not written in stone. It is a living, growing document and when enough people wish to make changes it can be done. If I read the entire thing, it's possible there may be parts that I might disagree with. By your assertion, I therefore would not belong in this country. Personally, I have to disagree. This is what makes this country great. We have the right to free speech including criticizing our government and ergo, our constitution without risk of persecution.
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I agree with all of that.

Is it your position that all should be welcomed regardless of their beliefs? Should members of ISIS and Al Qaeda be welcomed to emigrate here?
 
EvolvingChristian said:
I agree with all of that.

Is it your position that all should be welcomed regardless of their beliefs? Should members of ISIS and Al Qaeda be welcomed to emigrate here?
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ISIS and Al Qaeda are enemies of our state so no, I would not be supportive of letting them come. It is for this reason we have immigration laws and why protecting our borders is so important. When people come across illegally, they have not been processed to be sure they are not a threat. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in this country that do not understand this.
 
WIP said:
ISIS and Al Qaeda are enemies of our state so no, I would not be supportive of letting them come. It is for this reason we have immigration laws and why protecting our borders is so important. When people come across illegally, they have not been processed to be sure they are not a threat. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in this country that do not understand this.
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Should migrants who want Sharia Law to replace the constitution be permitted to reside in the U.S.?
 
EvolvingChristian said:
Should migrants who want Sharia Law to replace the constitution be permitted to reside in the U.S.?
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Rhetorical question perhaps? Certainly loaded.
At the airport when they arrive I am trying to imagine the immigration officer asking
" Do you want Sharia Law to replace the Constitution?"
 
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EvolvingChristian said:
Should migrants who want Sharia Law to replace the constitution be permitted to reside in the U.S.?
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There already are US citizens that would like Sharia Law. They do not have enough support to actually get the changes passed. There are also citizens that would like communism. In fact, for many years there were communists that ran for president. There are citizens that would like to change our country to a socialist society. There are citizens that would like to change our country to a dictatorship. There are citizens in that would like our country to be fascist. They all have a right to their views and the freedom to speak their opinions.
 
WIP said:
There already are US citizens that would like Sharia Law. They do not have enough support to actually get the changes passed. There are also citizens that would like communism. In fact, for many years there were communists that ran for president. There are citizens that would like to change our country to a socialist society. There are citizens that would like to change our country to a dictatorship. There are citizens in that would like our country to be fascist. They all have a right to their views and the freedom to speak their opinions.
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You didn't answer my simple question.
 
humble soul said:
Rhetorical question perhaps? Certainly loaded.
At the airport when they arrive I am trying to imagine the immigration officer asking
" Do you want Sharia Law to replace the Constitution?"
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Yea? What if 40 million Muslims want to move to Australia and enact Sharia Law. Should they be permitted to do so?
 
EvolvingChristian said:
Yea? What if 40 million Muslims want to move to Australia and enact Sharia Law. Should they be permitted to do so?
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Think you misunderstand. And by the way, I think you are too emotionally invested in one side of the debate to speak fairly on this issue.
My point is you won't find out what an immigrants point of view is by asking them. They will keep their intentions hidden. Especially terrorists. You need to separate terrorists from western culture respecting law abiding Muslim American citizens who want peace as much as you. America is under siege with other problems besides Muslim terrorism and plots to take over the nation.
 
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Ok, so it seems that the consensus here is that a community is obligated to accept an immigrant regardless of their beliefs or intentions.

I beg to differ.

Thanks for the feedback.
 
EvolvingChristian said:
Ok, so it seems that the consensus here is that a community is obligated to accept an immigrant regardless of their beliefs or intentions.

I beg to differ.

Thanks for the feedback.
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All that proves is that you have a very strong opinion on this and anyone who disagrees must be delusional.
 
the problem is the red scare ,un American activities commission of which Martin Luther king was unlawfully deprived of civil rights (4th amendment )
 
EvolvingChristian said:
You didn't answer my simple question.
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In simplest terms I believe that in order for a person immigrating to be granted citizenship that person needs to be able to pledge allegiance to the country. It is for this reason that I am not a supporter of dual citizen status, which is acknowledged here in the US. My neighbor's wife is Danish and she has not yet applied for or obtained US citizenship, however, all four of their boys have dual citizenship status with the US and Denmark. The problem with this is, in the event of an altercation with Denmark, who could we expect them to stand with? I also do not agree with allowing someone such as my neighbor's wife to remain on a green card status indefinitely. So far she has been living in the states since they've been married almost 30 years on a green card. This is not right in my opinion. If you're going to enjoy the rights and privileges of a citizen, then you should also become a citizen.
 
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