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Bible Study What subject did Jesus teach on more than hell, money, salvation or repentence

If we were to go and mark a Concordance with the number of mentions of the subjects that I listed in the title of this thread, we'd find a good number of occurances of each. But imagine a subject mentioned more than all of those combined?

Jesus spent a ton time articulating this subject, yet it doesn't make it into the top 100 of subjects preach upon in modern times.

I'm curious if others have caught on to this detail.

Take a stab at what you think this subject is.... it appears more than 130 times by Christ and it also mentioned by almost every NT author, another 28 specific times.
 
On matters like this I stick more to the overarching message of Christ, and for me that's forgiveness.
 
Yes all... However, if we are doing a study of topical subjects Christ taught, as in mentioned, what will we find that is not mentioned in modern teachings or church? There is overwhelming teaching on love and forgiveness today in every place.

But what subject is tantamount to a third rail NOBODY touches, I don't care if its Dr. David Jeremiah or Hank Hanegraaff, charismatics, emergents or virtually anybody else?

Any guesses?
 
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What is hypocrisy? (Jeopardy style answer/question)

I don't have a mental concept of what proportion of his teaching dealt with this issue, but I know it's there a lot and it was a big topic of the prophets before him. And that somehow the church doesn't seem to think it applies to them because of grace.
 
Jethro, I would agree with you... Yet there is still a subject, very common in the NT (especially in the mouth of Christ), which does not see the light of day in modern circles. There is some teaching about this but very little, especially for the everyday person. The little that is available is quite twisted from how Christ taught it...

I've give some clues: This subject is commonly thought of in some circles as "The social gospel." In others it is portrayed in various forms of Dominionism, in another realm this subject melded with Prosperity Teaching demonstrating the subject. In the greatest number of places, teachers and preachers strip "the gospel" away from this subject.

I see your byline has a reference to one form of this subject, limited to the book of Matthew.

Guesses anyone?
 
Jethro, I would agree with you... Yet there is still a subject, very common in the NT (especially in the mouth of Christ), which does not see the light of day in modern circles. There is some teaching about this but very little, especially for the everyday person. The little that is available is quite twisted from how Christ taught it...

I've give some clues: This subject is commonly thought of in some circles as "The social gospel." In others it is portrayed in various forms of Dominionism, in another realm this subject melded with Prosperity Teaching demonstrating the subject. In the greatest number of places, teachers and preachers strip "the gospel" away from this subject.

I see your byline has a reference to one form of this subject, limited to the book of Matthew.

Guesses anyone?

Based on this I would have said Kingdom Theology next, but you alluded to that as if that's not what it is. So I go to the idea of the spiritual power and authority itself behind 'Kingdom Now' theology.
 
Jethro, The subject of the Kingdom of God, not to be confused with "kingdom now" (a form of dominionism). Jesus mentions the kingdom of God directly more than 90 times and alludes to it another 25 or so times.

Yet you don't hear a peep about the subject in modern circles. I could go 6 months at least listening to "Christian radio" without hearing even a mention of the phrase, to say nothing of in depth description, articulation or anything substantive concerning it.

Why do you suppose that is so? You'd think with a subject so weighty, Hank Hanegraaff would weigh in and talk about it all the time.

What has your study of the NT been like on this subject?
 
Jethro, The subject of the Kingdom of God, not to be confused with "kingdom now" (a form of dominionism). Jesus mentions the kingdom of God directly more than 90 times and alludes to it another 25 or so times.

Yet you don't hear a peep about the subject in modern circles. I could go 6 months at least listening to "Christian radio" without hearing even a mention of the phrase, to say nothing of in depth description, articulation or anything substantive concerning it.

Why do you suppose that is so? You'd think with a subject so weighty, Hank Hanegraaff would weigh in and talk about it all the time.

What has your study of the NT been like on this subject?
My personal reading of the NT shows there is much in regard to preparing for the Kingdom of God--the kingdom to come, and it's King. I bring it up often in my discussions (just this morning, in fact) because the church does seem to think it's not important to think about it and prepare for it, and stay prepared for its coming, because of grace. But, as you point out, it is talked about a lot in the NT to the church.

The church does seem to have forgotten that this is all about the kingdom of God that is coming and not so much about a kingdom of God in regard to our 'now'. A very dangerous place to be IMO. We're preparing for the Day of Judgment, a time and place in history still to come. Staying 'kingdom to come' oriented will definitely change your perspective on what it means to be a Christian. It does mine.
 
Jethro, good observations... But take a look at all the mentions of the KOG, passive or active, and ask yourself are they relating to a "now-reality" (again not in the kingdom now/dominionists mindset) but a current reality, perspective and realm in which we live within this temporal world; or how many of the texts speak purely of the eventual reality of the KOG?

This is a fascinating study for those who will take the time to search it out.

Theology definitely prevents many from considering the matter, and from preachers/teachers presenting on it.

The other thing that is "confusing" about this subject is that much of Jesus presentations concerning the kingdom of God are done through parables. And Jesus said, He presented it so that the hangers on surrounding Him and the disciples wouldn't get it. Consequently many today "don't get it." Does this mean they are "hangers on" as those in Christ's time? That's an interesting question but one folks will have to square with themselves.

The other thing that clouds the subject is modern diversions that barrow the term KOG to be interpreted in their own way: Social Gospel, select Prosperity teachings, and humanist teaching (making the world a better place). These types of appearances are minimal in the vastness of "church" and religious teaching, but they certainly confuse the subject.
 
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
 
Reba, very true... Notice the nature of this verse. Does it refer to an eventuality or a now-reality? In other words, is it appealing to the now in which we live and minister, or is what it refers to something after the judgement of God or in the hereafter?
 
Gotcha on the moderating... Think about when righteousness, peace and joy occur? Certainly in the hereafter, but that is a given. Thus this text is talking about "the now" of living. Eating is something we do in "the now" but this text is saying the KOG is not typical physical world stuff, but that it exists and is embodied in "the now" of living. What point is there in stating the obvious about the hereafter unless the text is speaking of a contrast in "the now" between the kingdoms of men and the kingdom of God: something that can be sensed, but not tactile?
 
The Kingdom of God/Heaven (same thing) is, as Reba said, "then-now-future" in nature. The Kingdom was present on Earth in the Person of Christ. It is present in our hearts as Christ through the Holy Spirit indwells us. It will be a reality in the New Heaven/New Earth after the Thousand Year Reign. To say that it is present now is partially true, in that it is present in the lives of Christians, to greater or lesser degrees based on their level of sanctification. If you are trying to say there is not a future fulfillment of the Kingdom on Earth -- and I'm not sure whether you are or not -- is to fail to grasp Jesus' complete teaching.
 
Thisnumbersdisconnected, I would agree with you to a degree... Its an indubitable fact that there is this now-reality as well as an eventuality to the kingdom of God. But in most cases "the now-reality" is downplayed or minimal in presentations and meanings. The focus is upon eventuality (this is in modern teaching if it ever occurs). Scripture tells a different narrative.

Matt 6:33 tells us what? "Seek first the KOG and all these things will be added to you." The all these things were articulated in verse 25 (what you shall eat, what you shall drink, nor for your body (as to clothes). So here we have a KOG text that gives us a few clues about what it is and what its about.

Q. When do we seek the KOG?
A. In the now of this life.

Q. When will all these things be added to us?
A. After we partake and are in the kingdom of God.

Q. Thus, when does the kingdom of God exist other than the hereafter?
Q. Are we going to be concerned about food, drink and clothes in heaven?
A. Obviously this text is talking about a now-reality.

Another verse Luke 17:21 tells us that "The kingdom of God is within you, and all around you." It first indicates a now-reality (apparently regardless of level or degree of sanctification).

Of the 138 direct mentions of KOG/KOH, 80 depict and articulate a "now-reality" 29 deal with its eventuality and thirty other texts have mixed aspects, which has given rise to the "then-now-future."

What has interested me in this subject is the NT use of what I call "terms of not belonging." And there are a ton of them, all descriptive of who and what the follower of Christ is (some 178 different mentions). You're familiar with all of them, but lets start with steward, soldier, alien and stranger... These do not belong to the context in which they exist. This is not just a contextual reference of the way believers were seen within the context in which they lived. It was and always should have been the very "worldview" we were to have about ourselves and our approach to the world order around us.

Paul speaks in 2 Corinthians 5:17 (KJV) about being a "new creation" in Christ. "Old things passed away (dead), behold ALL things are become new.
Q. What part of all isn't new in considerations of the word ALL?
A. (Do I really need to answer this one)

So profound is this "newness" another text joins in: Phil 3:2-11 (NASB). This text deals with physical-world belonging and identity that people commonly flaunt, which Paul says has to be treated as dung in our mind IN ORDER THAT (His words) we may gain Christ and be found in Him, not bearing a righteousness of our own... WOW! That is a HEAVY text for anyone willing to read it for what it is saying, without their theological glasses on, whew!

Continuing the terms of not belonging I mentioned earlier, another term drives my point home... Paul refers to us twice as Ambassadors! (isolated this could mean almost anything, but within the context of 176 more mentions of "terms of not belonging" and the few supporting texts I've shared here (among the many others) this is not an anomaly we can dismiss.)
Q. What is an Ambassador?
A. ONe who represents one realm to another in which he or she does not belong.... Wow!

Then Paul says later in Phil. 3, Our citizenship is in heaven, which adds perspective to this "not belonging" bit. We have a citizenship, that is a "now-reality" within the context of a physical world. And we represent our realm to the realms of non-new creation people in the kingdoms of men. Citizenship means we have a responsibility, its not just an award on the wall like a diploma.

This is a powerful message of far reaching aspects. It bears up historically and ecclesiastically... But it is also obscured to most church people because of an event long ago that has been built upon for so long people can't see around it. But the scriptures are open to those who would press in, ask questions and take off the interpretive means they've been handed, which just so happens to support this other narrative so commonly accepted...

When Paul warns the Corinthians about "another gospel" it means that there are charades and frauds parading as truth in order to deceive many. At what point, when we strip the gospel Christ and Paul taught of its very essence and dynamics, does our gospel start to fit in to that category Paul called "another gospel?"

I am reminded of the parable Christ purposely told in such a way that insincere hangers on could not get. But it has been appointed that many could know, which remains in our own time.

All I can say is that this understanding, so minimally presented here has blessed me tremendously. Its changed everything for me. But its a message that has many an enemy, especially in what we call church. They, along with the secular order will lead the charge in persecuting it and quelling it. The proof is that it has happened that way for centuries. And when this teaching reaches out again in the west, the same pathology will reappear amongst the nicest and brightest people you could ever meet...
 
Thisnumbersdisconnected, I would agree with you to a degree... Its an indubitable fact that there is this now-reality as well as an eventuality to the kingdom of God. But in most cases "the now-reality" is downplayed or minimal in presentations and meanings. The focus is upon eventuality (this is in modern teaching if it ever occurs). Scripture tells a different narrative.
I would disagree with that statement, too. Perhaps it depends on the church one is attending, perhaps on the denomination. But we get teaching on what the Kingdom of Heaven/God means in the present all the time. So I'm not sure where this idea of it's not being presented or understood as fact by most is coming from.
 
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Thisnumbersdisconnected, I can only speak for my own experience at Sunday-going-to-meeting... In 38 years in 7 denominations, I never heard a single message on it! Secondly, in answers to a query of 50 national and international ministries, I got 3 responses that were substantive and only 1 that really began to deal with the topic. I've read 30+ volumes on the subject from Herman Ridderbos to Brian McLaren and Myles Monroe... I am aware of 3 specific views on this subject, all with one thing in common that is remarkably missing from Christ's presentations...

I don't know everything, but I think I'm fairly exposed to the material and what is available....

Currently, the groups talking about this subject the most are the ones who embrace guys like Brian McLaren and Shane Claiborne. This version of "Kingdom of God" seeks to make the world a better place or its a new entrance of the social gospel.

The Dominionists (Theonomist, Kingdom-Now and Christian Reconstructionists) also talk about the nowness of the KOG but its from a perspective of dominating the world order and subjugating it to the gospel: kind of a Christian caliphate

Yet, when you get to the evangelical/fundamental camp, even some of the charismatics, their eshatology pushes the KOG off to being mainly an eventuality. The mainline churches are a crap shoot between social gospel and hereafter versions of the KOG...

If you search for a book on the KOG on Amazon, you find very little over about it in comparison to almost anything other subject; hell, heaven, money and repentance...

So, I am curious as to what group you belong to that speaks about this subject so often, and how it could have evaded my research.
 
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