What verse says that Jesus is fully God and fully man?

[Blain DeCastro]

I am in a discussion about Jesus apparently not being God and man and I remember a verse that says he is but I cannot remember where to find it

 

[hawkman]

A passage of scripture that may help . The Word .
John Chapter 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

[Blain DeCastro]

A passage of scripture that may help . The Word .
John Chapter 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Thank you this was very helpful

 

[Free]

I can’t think of a single verse, but maybe this passage will help:

Php 2:5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,
Php 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Php 2:7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. (ESV)

 

[Blain DeCastro]

I can’t think of a single verse, but maybe this passage will help:

Php 2:5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,
Php 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Php 2:7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. (ESV)

Well that is pretty close now isn't it? Thanks for the help

 

[WIP]

I am in a discussion about Jesus apparently not being God and man and I remember a verse that says he is but I cannot remember where to find it

There is no place recorded in Scripture where Jesus specifically says it in those words, but it is demonstrated in Scripture. In many of these places we can read about how the Pharisees and other teachers of the law wanted to kill Him because of what they perceived as blasphemy, claiming to be God. Here are a couple examples.

Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died? And the prophets died! Who do you make yourself out to be?” Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’ But you have not known him. I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and I keep his word. Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
John 8:53-59 ESV

So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.” The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”
John 10:24-33 ESV

 

[for_his_glory]

Scriptures that reference Jesus being referred to as God:
John 1:1-14; John 10:30; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8, 9; 1 John 5:7, 8, 20; 1 Corinthians 8:6; 2 Corinthians 3:17; 13:14; Isaiah 9:6; 44:6; Luke 1:35; Matthew 1:23; 28:19; John 14:16, 17; Genesis 1:1, 2 (cross reference John 1:1-14); 1 Corinthians 12:4-6; Ephesians 4:4-6; Colossians 1:15-17; John 14:9-11; Philippians 2:5-8; Rev 1:8


Scriptures that refer the Holy Spirit as being God:
Psalms 139:7, 8; John 14:17; 16:13; Isaiah 40:13; 1 Corinthians 2:10, 11; Zechariah 4:6; Luke 1:35; Ephesians 4:4-6; Romans 5:5; 1 Corinthians 6:19; Ephesians 1:13; 1 Thessalonians 1:5; Titus 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21; Jude 1:20

 

[Blain DeCastro]

Thank you everyone for your help the discussion I was in didn't last long because the person was banned for spreading heresy but in the discussion I referenced your posts and it was very helpful thank you

 

[Corn Pop]

Thank you everyone for your help the discussion I was in didn't last long because the person was banned for spreading heresy but in the discussion I referenced your posts and it was very helpful thank you

They were banned for spreading heresy so you could not have open honest discussion with them?. Thats sad. Freedom of speech is important.

 

[Blain DeCastro]

They were banned for spreading heresy so you could not have open honest discussion with them?. Thats sad. Freedom of speech is important.

I would have prefered that they weren't banned as I hoped to get through to them but sadly the admins had other ideas they don't tolerate heresy and he even came back under a different account and was banned a second time

 

[Blain DeCastro]

That's sad how someone come back obviously seeking answers in an argument and debate and got banned. They may have thought you were spreading heresy as well beause it makes no logical sense if they got got banned for spreading heresy if they believed you was trying to preach to them the truth.

Seems like the self righteous are trying to dictate your discussions with others.

Well they didn't come seeking answers they came preaching their own personal agenda they even said they got banned from reddit and from a place called CARM basically they have been banned from several places already. Though to be fair I wouldn't really know if what they were preaching was heresy persay it was just them preaching that Jesus isn't God and I have seen some people teach this who are very devout Christians

But even on here I have seen this spoken of and as far as I know you don't get banned for that honestly the admins were not to keen on his preaching though he also was not exactly polite about it either

 

[Corn Pop]

Well they didn't come seeking answers they came preaching their own personal agenda they even said they got banned from reddit and from a place called CARM basically they have been banned from several places already. Though to be fair I wouldn't really know if what they were preaching was heresy persay it was just them preaching that Jesus isn't God and I have seen some people teach this who are very devout Christians

But even on here I have seen this spoken of and as far as I know you don't get banned for that honestly the admins were not to keen on his preaching though he also was not exactly polite about it either

I guess depends on the situation, if someone was intentionally preaching Jesus is not God everywhere around the place rather than having a discussion about it then that could be seen as a trouble maker, yet if they having open discussion about it then that is a different story. I mean if someone started a thread and said they dont believe Jesus is God so lets discuss and have a debate about it, i would not see that as a problem.

 

[Blain DeCastro]

I guess depends on the situation, if someone was intentionally preaching Jesus is not God everywhere around the place rather than having a discussion about it then that could be seen as a trouble maker, yet if they having open discussion about it then that is a different story. I mean if someone started a thread and said they dont believe Jesus is God so lets discuss and have a debate about it, i would not see that as a problem.

Oh he had no intention of discussing it trust me but even so I wanted to try to reason with him but he just got banned very quickly not just because of what he was preaching but the way he was crude and slandered anyone who disagreed

I have met some on there though that have slandered others and still didn't get banned so really I think it was what he was preaching that got him banned

 

[Beetow]

There is no place recorded in Scripture where Jesus specifically says it in those words, but it is
demonstrated in Scripture.

That is one of my pet peeves with purists because they refuse to accept a number
of Christianity's conventional concepts simply because they aren't stated in the
Bible in clear text that a 4th grade kid in elementary school can understand.

Well, I hope purists wake up and realize some day that the Bible wasn't written
to accommodate a child's IQ, rather, it was written to work with a mature IQ,
i.e. an IQ that can reason and add things up, so to speak.
_

 

[KV-44-v1]

I would have prefered that they weren't banned as I hoped to get through to them but sadly the admins had other ideas they don't tolerate heresy and he even came back under a different account and was banned a second time

Mabye we should have a containment board for them and their kind.

 

[KV-44-v1]

Oh he had no intention of discussing it trust me but even so I wanted to try to reason with him but he just got banned very quickly not just because of what he was preaching but the way he was crude and slandered anyone who disagreed

I have met some on there though that have slandered others and still didn't get banned so really I think it was what he was preaching that got him banned

Worldview has consequences. His contra Biblical worldview led to him doing faulty stuff. You have witnessed "trees bear fruit" in action.

 

[follower]

Well, I hope purists wake up and realize some day that the Bible wasn't written
to accommodate a child's IQ, rather, it was written to work with a mature IQ,
i.e. an IQ that can reason and add things up, so to speak.
_

Matthew 11:25-26, Jesus breaks into prayer, saying, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.”

 

[Beetow]

Matthew 11:25-26, Jesus breaks into prayer, saying, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and
earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to
little children.”

I think in time you'll discover that the "little children" in Jesus' prayer aren't toddlers,
adolescents, and/or teen-agers, rather, it's a figure of speech for neophytes in the Lord.
For example:

● 1Cor 3:1-2 . . And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto
carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for
hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

● Eph 4:11-14 . . And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some,
evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the
work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: till we all come in the unity of
the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure
of the stature of the fulness of Christ: that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to
and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and
cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.

● Heb 5:12-14 . . For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one
teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become
such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is
unskillful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to
them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised
to discern both good and evil.
_

 

[it is well]

Revelation 1:18, 21:6, 22:13

Regards,

John

 

[KV-44-v1]

I think in time you'll discover that the "little children" in Jesus' prayer aren't toddlers,
adolescents, and/or teen-agers, rather, it's a figure of speech for neophytes in the Lord.
For example:

● 1Cor 3:1-2 . . And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto
carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for
hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

● Eph 4:11-14 . . And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some,
evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the
work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: till we all come in the unity of
the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure
of the stature of the fulness of Christ: that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to
and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and
cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.

● Heb 5:12-14 . . For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one
teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become
such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is
unskillful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to
them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised
to discern both good and evil.
_

wow, did not think of that
thanksn you for this input