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What Would You Do In This Hypothetical Scenario?

Luminous_Rose

Luminous_Rose

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Scenario: A lead pastor of a church decides that for one of his kid's birthday he will go ahead and buy stuff to make margaritas and other "girly" drinks at home for one of his daughters birthdays. They are of legal drinking age from what you know. Not many people in the church know about this - they are keeping it mostly under wraps. What would you think of this scenario?

I've had other people come in contact with this scenario within the church and some people say, "Fine, whatever." and others worry about, "What example are they setting for others when they do this?" It's just a unique scenario. What would you do? What would you think?
 
Luminous_Rose

I would be concerned. Especially if it is for a birthday party and other youths from the church are being invited over. Parents should be warned.

And if I had children who were invited to the party, they would not go.

I question the pastors motives. The fact that they want to keep it under wraps is a red flag also.

If someone believes they can drink, and have it to themselves, fine. But don't start passing it around at a party.

I don't know the position your church holds on drinking. And I don't know the leadership makeup of your church. Those who said 'fine whatever', seem not to care.

I believe the leadership should be told. And if they don't care, I wouldn't trust their leadership.

Quantrill
 
Luminous_Rose said:
Scenario: A lead pastor of a church decides that for one of his kid's birthday he will go ahead and buy stuff to make margaritas and other "girly" drinks at home for one of his daughters birthdays. They are of legal drinking age from what you know. Not many people in the church know about this - they are keeping it mostly under wraps. What would you think of this scenario?

I've had other people come in contact with this scenario within the church and some people say, "Fine, whatever." and others worry about, "What example are they setting for others when they do this?" It's just a unique scenario. What would you do? What would you think?
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What is that churches stance on drinking?
Why is it being kept quite?

So long as it is open, above board and legal I would have no problem with it so long as there were several responsible adults at this party.
Ideally I would want the drinks to be weaker than normal and limited to two over an evening.


I would rather that teenagers learn about responsible drink than develop a fast for getting drunk.
 
You said its " Hypothetical " so there are no real people with wills of there own... no God nothing. Just as you said " Hypothetical ". No right or wrong answer. Make it positive.. pastor feels convicted.. then they all do. They stop and all repent and worship God and have a AWESOME time.
 
I think the entire leadership should be made aware and all parents with teenage kids should be made aware. Without openess, how can any of them make responsible decisions? I imagine a parent with a teenage daughter unaware of the presence of alcohol could unwittingly send their daughter, in trust, into a situation they would otherwise never do if they knew the circumstances. I witnessed a parent-supplied party go completely out of control. The party spilled out into the street. Fights broke out. Police called. It was a disaster.
 
I drink occasionally. I never get drunk. So long as it's an adult event I don't think it's a big deal, or at least if kids are there they should be supervised.
They shouldn't try to keep the alcohol a secret, though. Even if it's an all adult party, you might have former alcoholics who prefer to know beforehand if there's going to be temptation present. That said, hard to judge without fully knowing the situation.
 
Luminous_Rose said:
Scenario: A lead pastor of a church decides that for one of his kid's birthday he will go ahead and buy stuff to make margaritas and other "girly" drinks at home for one of his daughters birthdays. They are of legal drinking age from what you know. Not many people in the church know about this - they are keeping it mostly under wraps. What would you think of this scenario?

I've had other people come in contact with this scenario within the church and some people say, "Fine, whatever." and others worry about, "What example are they setting for others when they do this?" It's just a unique scenario. What would you do? What would you think?
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If they are of legal drinking age, what is the problem?
 
daninthelionsden said:
So if your slightly under aged daughter slipped away to a party her older friends from church were having and you didn't know alcohol were served, that's OK with you?
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You are moving the parameters first listed in the OP.
If a "slightly underage daughter" has slipped into an adult party, she has other problems you should be worrying about.
 
daninthelionsden said:
I'm trying to see how much you value openess. From that I can see how much you value honesty. From that I can ascertain if you are truly sinless.
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You need a better hypothetical situation for that evaluation.
What evil has occurred by not including the birthday celebration's menu in the church bulletin?
You need to say whether or not the supposed church is a real church or just another bunch of posers.
Is the church in Mexico?
 
Empathy for others means you care about their well-being. Being aloof of possible unseen or covered danger to others indicates sin of omission.
 
Hopeful said:
The "situation" gave no hint of anything but a family birthday party with drinks.
If you wish to see evil in that, it is up to you do do something about it.
Hypothetically speaking, of course.
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You are correct. There is not enough information as to who will/won't be in attendance.
 
Quantrill said:
Luminous_Rose

I would be concerned. Especially if it is for a birthday party and other youths from the church are being invited over. Parents should be warned.

And if I had children who were invited to the party, they would not go.

I question the pastors motives. The fact that they want to keep it under wraps is a red flag also.

If someone believes they can drink, and have it to themselves, fine. But don't start passing it around at a party.

I don't know the position your church holds on drinking. And I don't know the leadership makeup of your church. Those who said 'fine whatever', seem not to care.

I believe the leadership should be told. And if they don't care, I wouldn't trust their leadership.

Quantrill
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I would be concerned if that scenario were to pop up, too. In this scenario, it's unclear if other youths would be invited, but that might be a bit worrisome. Whether it would be kept within direct family as an overheard situation or privately told to friends, it wouldn't be certain, but I see the concerns either way.

It seems one side of the arguments always goes, "Studies show that youth who at least try alcohol when they're younger are less likely to get drunk when they're older." I can't be for sure how accurate that is, but I also know it seems that youth that have tried alcohol in some cases, not all, might be more likely to continue to use alcohol even as they get older because it gives them something - numbs trauma/emotional pain, gives them that 'buzz' that they look forward to, etc.

I wouldn't think the position of the church on drinking matters that much. I think what is in The Holy Bible is the important part. That drinking isn't sinful, but drunkenness is. Although, whether it's wise to take that one drink must be though out carefully and whether it's legal or not.

It's a completely hypothetical scenario for me - I've just heard of it popping up before whether online or from a friend and wondered what everyone's thoughts would be if it were to happen in their church.

I guess if it's a private thing at home, one would wonder if it's really not anyone else's business - that it might've just been over heard, but strictly within their family and traditions. So I guess it could be kind of an edgy situation there.
 
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