Where is the Gandhi of Islam?

[Gary]

How do you know Gandhi did not have sex with them?

Where was Gandhi's wife?

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As for Numbers 31, answer the questions here:
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... 063#193063

 

[Heidi]

David deeply repented his adultery and sin.

David confessed his sin with Bathsheba to the Lord; he asked God to cleanse him, to purify his heart and to restore the joy of salvation (Psalm 51:1-19).

On the other hand, how do you think Gandhi's wife felt about him sleeping with two young girls?

He did not have sex with them.

That is not adultery!

But after all, the God of YOUR Bible doesnt have a problem with rape and pillaging if it is for a good cause so why should we judge Gandhi for his good cause!

Please reconcile THESE verse Gary!

Numbers 31:7-18 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society



7 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Rebaâ€â€the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho. [a]

13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the armyâ€â€the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundredsâ€â€who returned from the battle.

15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Ghandi is not going to heaven precisely because he didn't have the humility to admit he needed forgiveness from a higher power. He thought he was above mere human beings. He saw himself as "enlightened" and divine himself. But David had the honesty and humility to admit he sins and so does any human being who admits he needs a savior. I'm afraid that Ghandi has already received his reward for all of the "good deeds" that he credits himself with.

 

[bibleberean]

David deeply repented his adultery and sin.

David confessed his sin with Bathsheba to the Lord; he asked God to cleanse him, to purify his heart and to restore the joy of salvation (Psalm 51:1-19).

On the other hand, how do you think Gandhi's wife felt about him sleeping with two young girls?

He did not have sex with them.

That is not adultery!

But after all, the God of YOUR Bible doesnt have a problem with rape and pillaging if it is for a good cause so why should we judge Gandhi for his good cause!

Please reconcile THESE verse Gary!

Numbers 31:7-18 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society



7 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Rebaâ€â€the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho. [a]

13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the armyâ€â€the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundredsâ€â€who returned from the battle.

15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Sleeping nude with two young girls is not a practice condoned in the bible.

Soma,

The God of our bible is God. You have finally exposed yourself for what you are.

Don't you know that those who hate the scriptures are enemies of Christ?

Why are you here Soma? Just to cause problems and unrest?

You are not just asking questions but are blaspheming our God.

Shame on you...

 

[Orthodox Christian]

David deeply repented his adultery and sin.

David confessed his sin with Bathsheba to the Lord; he asked God to cleanse him, to purify his heart and to restore the joy of salvation (Psalm 51:1-19).

On the other hand, how do you think Gandhi's wife felt about him sleeping with two young girls?

He did not have sex with them.

That is not adultery!

But after all, the God of YOUR Bible doesnt have a problem with rape and pillaging if it is for a good cause so why should we judge Gandhi for his good cause!

Please reconcile THESE verse Gary!

Numbers 31:7-18 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society



7 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Rebaâ€â€the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho. [a]

13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the armyâ€â€the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundredsâ€â€who returned from the battle.

15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Sleeping nude with two young girls is not a practice condoned in the bible.

Soma,

The God of our bible is God. You have finally exposed yourself for what you are.

Hold the phone. Have you ever read this from 1 Kings?

1
Now King David was old, advanced in age; and they covered him with clothes, but he could not keep warm.
2
So his servants said to him, "Let them seek a young virgin for my lord the king, and let her attend the king and become his nurse; and let her lie in your bosom, that my lord the king may keep warm.'
3
So they searched for a beautiful girl throughout all the territory of Israel, and found Abishag the Shunammite, and brought her to the king.
4
The girl was very beautiful; and she became the king's nurse and served him, but the king did not cohabit with her.

Ain't that something.

Don't you know that those who hate the scriptures are enemies of Christ?

And there are those who claim to love scripture who are enemies of Christ as well.

I find it interesting that anyone who points out the obvious difficulties presented by a rigid, Fundamentalist reading of the OT is labeled a bible-hater. Asking questions and posing challenges unacceptable to you, BB? You say those that hate the bible are enemies of Christ, yet you hate the churches of Christ- you mock them constantly.
I see this as a double -standard.

Why are you here Soma? Just to cause problems and unrest?

You are not just asking questions but are blaspheming our God.

Shame on you...

No, shame on you for mocking the churches of God, yet having the nerve to be offended when your toes are stepped on.

Now, I remind you that the subject here is who is the Ghandi of Islam.
That is to say- who is the peacemaker of Islam. This is a very legitimate question, and I don't see that Islam has an answer.

 

[bibleberean]

The Midianites were bent on destroying Israel and the women of Midian were sent to seduce the men of Israel into sexual sin and idol worship.

There is know telling what diseases (STD's) and pollutions were in the country of Midian.

Numbers 22

Israel was commanded by God to destroy them.

God did not command the men of Israel to rape the young women of Midian who were virgins.

Their lives were spared and they were made servants.

Numbers 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Not a word about rape in that verse.

Of the spoil of Midiian the LORD was given a tribute for service in the tabernacle.

Numbers 31:37-40 And the LORD'S tribute of the sheep was six hundred and threescore and fifteen. And the beeves were thirty and six thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and twelve. And the asses were thirty thousand and five hundred; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and one. And the persons were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.

Soma,

Those who call the scriptures evil and judge Jesus Christ are under a curse.

Do you know what this passage means?

Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

General information

Gahndi's wife was dead when he began sleeping naked with young women.

 

[bibleberean]

There is a big difference between Gandhi and David.

1.David was Old and ill and could not keep warm.

2.He was also not naked. He was fully clothed.

3. He did not have a nurse to "practice celibacy".

1 Kings 1:1 Now king David was old and stricken in years; and they covered him with clothes, but he gat no heat.

1. Gandhi was not cold and in need of a nurse to keep him warm. He was not a king in Israel.

2. Gandhi was completely exposed (naked) in the site of two young girls.

3. Gandhi claimed he was "practicing" celibacy even though he admitted having a strong problem with lust.

 

[bibleberean]

And I can't find a man of peace in Islam either.

 

[Orthodox Christian]

And I can't find a man of peace in Islam either.

And that is the point of the thread, a point I'm hard pressed to dispute.