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Which passages make up the best evidence that Christ will return bodily?

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Hi Hitch,

I don't think in the context of Revelation 19 that I am an enemy of God. By God's grace, I will be in His army executing the war which God's brings to His enemies. In our time, I once was an enemy of God by the wicked works I had done, but, now, reconciled through the Gospel.

Colossians 1:21-22
New King James Version (NKJV)
21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—

You asked the question if there was any cause beyond the truth of the Gospel. I think one cause is the judgment of God which is part of our inheritance. But this is beyond my understanding, especially with my sin fresh in my face. The glorified Davies will have perfect understanding one day.

Isaiah 54:17
New King James Version (NKJV)
17 No weapon formed against you shall prosper,
And every tongue which rises against you in judgment
You shall condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD,
And their righteousness is from Me,â€
Says the LORD.

- Davies
Its grace Dave. We were all dead, we were all once His enemy. But the unconverted will be cut off. We are changed from dead to living, from enemy to friend, those with out eyes to see and ears that hear will be ground into powder. Either way God's enemies are destroyed.
 
Simple question........Where are these people?

1 Thessalonians 4:14
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
 
Simple question........Where are these people?

1 Thessalonians 4:14
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
Toledo.


I think the traditional 'die and go to heaven' concept has pretty good scriptural support.

Im curious wrt your point.

Funny thing though, for all the noise and fury dispensationalist often come up with ,especially connected to the return of Christ they dont believe ;

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

refers to the Second Advent. Go figure.
 
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Hi Hitch,

A passage I thought was Zechariah 14:3-4. Considering the specific nature of feet touching an actual place, and then the passage goes on to describe what happens to the Mount, I think a literal interpretation is in order.

- Davies

Zechariah 14:3-4
New King James Version (NKJV)
3 Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Makinga very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.

To make Zechariah 14 work people will have to “keep the feast of the tabernacles†which requires animal sacrifices.

Zechariah 14:16 (KJV) And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.


The sacrifices during Ingathering (Tabernacles) were numerous. According to the details given in Number 29:12-40 they were:

Day Bulls Rams Lambs Goats

1st day: 13 2 14 1

2nd day: 12 2 14 1

3rd day: 11 2 14 1

4th day: 10 2 14 1

5th day: 9 2 14 1

6th day: 8 2 14 1

7th day: 7 2 14 1

8th day: 1 1 7 1

Totals: 71 15 105 8 = 199 animals

Source http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/sbs777/vital/sacrific.html

Anyone can make the Bible (the Word) say just about anything they want by referencing a verse here and there (selective picking & choosing). Scripture has to be taken as a whole and it has to line up without destroying other parts of God‘s Word.

Returning to animal sacrifices is an insult to the blood of Jesus Christ.

Please Read Hebrews 10 (KJV)

1: For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2: For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

3: But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4: For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5: Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6: In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7: Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8: Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9: Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10: By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11: And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

12: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

13: From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

14: For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

15: Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

16: This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17: And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

18: Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

19: Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

20: By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

21: And having an high priest over the house of God;

22: Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

23: Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised)

24: And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

26: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30: For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

32: But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;

33: Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.

34: For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.

35: Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.

36: For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

37: For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.

38: Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

39: But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
 
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