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White police vs. American blacks

LovethroughDove said:
I don't need luck. Luke 10:19-20 "I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. However, do not rejoice that spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."

I'm being trained also man. Just like that lady in the video I posted. We are not wrestling with flesh and blood but spiritual powers.
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okay so you don't need a job .you don't evacuate during disasters ,take no safety precautions .
don't need health care.

I'm,of the pentacostal background and even they to don't go that far .the context is when they try in,the act of witnessing try to harm you pu reached in during a fire and a snake bit him.

light ning nor any natural act etc shouldnt be a problem for you then and i have read meters in hail and lightning . its not lets take an necessary chance .
 
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LovethroughDove said:
Good. I never said that God doesn't have authorities set up, but good that you would die for Christ if the circumstance presented itself for you to die a martyr.
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Right after I got born again I had this feeling I would one day die a martyr.
I don't want to, but I got a big mouth that's probably going to get me in trouble one day.
If it's God's will that I die a martyr, so be it.
But I'm not volunteering unless God impresses it very heavily on me like he did Jesus and Paul.
 
knowing peter ,why would he tell him to buy,a sword to simply then rebuke him for using it .

you do know hoses married gomer a prostitite and was told to do so ,but was never rebuked by God for actually trying keep the marriage it was a sign .

peter was rebuked for his time of using it .Jesus was meant to be arrested
 
LovethroughDove said:
Why did Jesus rebuke him, if he was okay with Peter cutting off the ear?

Answer please.
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He was not acting in accordance with prophecy.
God's will was that Christ die for the people, not defend himself against his enemies.
I feel an Acts reference coming on but can't quite put my mind on it at the moment.

Here it is...
Acts 2:23

Meanwhile, it was God's will that David, for example, kill all his enemies.
 
LovethroughDove said:
I'm convinced underneath every hardcore conservative is the fear factor. 1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

I'm pretty sure this is what Hitler used to come into power, fear of "those" taking over.
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ww2 ,oh goodie .

that's a complex one and well thr some of the causes is

ppoor economic policies .a decadent society ,and also the reaction to the impression by France and Britain .

a prominent speaker and manipulater shows up and people willimg to go along .in,short
 
jasonc said:
ww2 ,oh goodie .

that's a complex one and well thr some of the causes is

ppoor economic policies .a decadent society ,and also the reaction to the impression by France and Britain .

a prominent speaker and manipulater shows up and people willimg to go along .in,short
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socialism,the dollar was,so weak that a wheel barrel left outside full of it no one would bother taking it .
 
LovethroughDove said:
I'm convinced underneath every hardcore conservative is the fear factor. 1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

I'm pretty sure this is what Hitler used to come into power, fear of "those" taking over.
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Actually, Hitler would be more left wing than conservative. Nazism is a socialist ideology.
 
ezrider said:
No disrespect, but you put to much emphasis on God's law. It was not the law that unified them, it was the law that divided them. What united them was their common faith in the one true God.




Paul preached unity in Christ and Christ alone. Not a conformity to God's laws.

Hebrews 8:10-12
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Catholics, Jehovah's Witness's, Mormons, Protestants.............. All have different beliefs about doctrine, but they ALL have a common faith in the one true God. We may each see him differently, but we all share that same common faith.

When shall we find unity? When we can lay down the scriptures and let go of the law so that we stop standing in judgement over one another's beliefs, religious or political, and accept the common faith that we have been called to walk in.


As for the forest and the trees, you seek for unity and condemn the division. But is it not the Lord himself who brings the division? Separating the sheep from the goats?

Luke 12:51-53
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
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And I mean no disrespect, but you and I are as far from one another with this post as the east is from the west. Because you are familiar with those who abused the laws, which you previously associated me with, you have the wrong view of the law.

Within the context of the Torah, obedience to God's Laws were first made known orally to Adam. Do you remember is law to them? You can eat from any tree in the garden except that one. It's design was not intended for condemnation, but sin, seizing the opportunity used it for condemnation.

The Israelites all agreed to abide by God's law, but they abused it time and time again.

Have you read what David says about God's Laws? And David is a man with a heart after God's own heart.

When you say I condemn others, you put words into my mouth that are spoken from your own ignorance. Please, stop misrepresenting me. If you feel I am condemning others, then let's have that discussion, but only after you show me the same respect I have given you. You asked me to answer your questions, and I have. Yet you don't answer the questions I've asked of you. To me, that's what a hypocrite does. They expect others to do as they say, but refuse to do themselves

Are you a hypocrite and do as the Pharasis do? By that, I mean you dergade me and demand that I answer your questions designed to interrogate and find fault with me yet you will not seek agreement with me, where I have sought areas of agreement between us, and I have made it known where we agree. Yet you do not answer my questions, and continue to seek to condemn me.
 
humble soul said:
Thanks Stove for being a role model in communication style. In the long run it's not what we say, but how we say it, that marks us as Christians.
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We all have a choice before we hit the submit button. I try not to expect from others what I can't model myself.
Also, it makes it difficult to repremand another if I'm guilty of the offence myself. I try very hard to serve this board, and not abuse owning it because I know it's not my board. iIts God's board and I'm simply a servant to God. One day I will be dead, and with God's grace this board will still be here.
 
LovethroughDove
I am sorry I have not replied to your last reply to me. I got caught up with another member. Please accept my apology.

I can't find your last post, but I remember you saying something to the effect that another member of Christ's body said the death of those types of people just go to hell a bit earlier.

That deeply bothers me. That bothers me a lot. We both know that God desires all to be saved and we also know that God does not rejoice with the destruction of the wicked.

Do you know the song of Miriam, the sister of Moses? She sings it after they cross the Red Sea and their enemies, Pharaoh and the chariots are all destroyed when they are burried in the water, similar to those who were destroyed in the water during Noah's Ark. Miriam's song is one of rejoicing. Yet God brings them to Marra where the water that sustains them is bitter, and almost undrinkable. You see, their victory was bitter sweet and although Miriam was rejoicing, God was suffering. Victory is always bitter sweet and we should never rejoice at the suffering of others even if they are our enemies. Even if their intent is to kill us

Make no mistake, God had Pharaoh and his chariots killed. As Solomon writes, there is a time to kill. But that act is never to be celebrated. It is a time of mourning, much how David mourned when Saul was killed. I trust you know this story. If not, I urge you to read it.

Victory is bitter sweet.

What happened to Me. Blake is bitter sweet and I thank God he is still alive. God spared him for a reason. I am also thankful that those Mr. Blake intended to harm were not physically harmed. But that comes with a price too. No doubt somebody will attempt to retaliate and kill him or harm his family seeking their own justice. Violence begets violence. How sad.
 
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