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Why Do You Believe?

HeIsRisen2018 said:
First of all, if our thumbprints don't prove God's existence then explain why each of ours are all individual and all different? Do you really think it happened like that by accident? Second of all I believe that Jesus walked the earth because that has already been proven. Sorry that this took me so long to post I was trying to find the article. And the answer to your question is that I believe that Jesus was the Son of God just because I do. I feel His presence inside my heart and I have experienced things that other people haven't that really can't be explained other than His existence.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/704303/The-archaeological-proof-that-Jesus-Christ-DID-exist
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Well, I mean, you won't get an argument from me!
We're talking about convincing non-believers here...
I'm a believer. I believe God created everything and without Him
was nothing created, all that is seen and unseen.
 
gtrudeau said:
Why do I believe what I believe about Jesus, church, etc?

- It seems simply too unreasonable to believe that God doesn't exist and everything here is just a happy accident
- the existence of free will would seem to prove the existence of God
- the pointlessness of life without God is too unbearable to bear
- the historical record supports the existence of a historical Jesus and so we have to ask, who is he?
- The growth of the Christian Church in an utterly hostile environment needs some explaining
- The examples of all those martyred for the faith
- The absolute need we have of the moral teachings of Jesus to restrain the selfishness and arrogance that makes life on earth difficult

As a side note, we accept things we cannot see to be true all the time so faith shouldn't be a foreign concept to anyone, even to an atheist. Noone today doubts the existence of historical personages (i.e. Julius Caesar), no one has seen him or talked with him, and yet we accept his existence as truth. i think the existence of Jesus and all he did (including his resurrection) is no less provable than Caesar's campaign against Britain.
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Great post.
Free will proves we're like God.
Also, the good in us, our being a social creature, the fact that we have morals, as you've stated - God IS morality - the fact that we need a family, as WE are God's family. We're like God in many ways. He even gave us the gift of procreation. We can "create" as He created. (in quotations marks because truly only God can create. We use materials already existent to create...)

I like your point of a church having been able to survive all these years and in such adversity. Yes, and that empty hole in us that only God can fill.
 
wondering said:
Well, I mean, you won't get an argument from me!
We're talking about convincing non-believers here...
I'm a believer. I believe God created everything and without Him
was nothing created, all that is seen and unseen.
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Exactly what I mean. Who wouldn't believe that thing about the thumbprint? I think that it really puts things into perspective and not to mention all of the artifacts that they found about Jesus' existence . Ah well, I personally don't worry about what others believe. They will find out sooner or later the truth and hopefully it's before it isn't too late to change their mind.
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
Exactly what I mean. Who wouldn't believe that thing about the thumbprint? I think that it really puts things into perspective and not to mention all of the artifacts that they found about Jesus' existence . Ah well, I personally don't worry about what others believe. They will find out sooner or later the truth and hopefully it's before it isn't too late to change their mind.
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LOL
An atheist would not believe it.
They attribute mostly everything to evolution.
 
wondering said:
LOL
An atheist would not believe it.
They attribute mostly everything to evolution.
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Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense. A great belch in the universe caused all of us to have different thumbprints, looks, personality, and DNA. Good grief! :rolleyes I can't believe that anybody would believe that nonsense. That's what I tell myself whenever I start to doubt my faith which thankfully isn't very often anymore. :)
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense. A great belch in the universe caused all of us to have different thumbprints, looks, personality, and DNA. Good grief! :rolleyes I can't believe that anybody would believe that nonsense. That's what I tell myself whenever I start to doubt my faith which thankfully isn't very often anymore. :)
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Praise God for that!
And you shouldn't.
There are reasons why you could believe...
 
Michael74 said:
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. Matthew 16:16-17 NIV
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This is good Michael.
But then the atheist asks why God didn't reveal Jesus to them.

So Jesus dies on the cross.
The Apostles are afraid and they hide. Some of them at the house of Martha and Mary and Lazarus at Bethany, just over the hill of the Garden, walkable on foot, and where the apostles and Jesus slept the week of Holy Week.

What happens shortly after the death of Christ?
And why?
Do the Apostles continue in fear? or not?
 
Why do I believe?
Because God found me when I wasn't looking for Him, I was 7 years old and I danced all the way home, I knew He loves me.

Because God gave me the faith to believe that Jesus Christ, The Son of God,the Messiah died even for me, so that I could live. I would show scripture that He died for all mankind, including them. I would tell them God loves them more than any human being is capable of.

I would tell them of things the Father and Jesus did for me to strengthen my faith.

When I was witnessing one day I asked a lady if she believed in God. She said that she didn't but also that she wouldn't harm anyone, just in case she was wrong.

You can't make someone believe you can only plant the seed, pray for them and pray that the Holy Spirit will water that seed.

The Holy Spirit will guide Christians on how to witness for Jesus. You have to pray for guidance and follow that. We will not all witness the same way, and it will depend on the non-believer's answers as to how you go on. But the message of salvation and love is a must.
 
Allen Wynne said:
I believe because he did just as he said he would do.
He rose from the dead.
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OK!
And how could we be so sure of this?
Everything hinges on the resurrection.
We must be sure that it really happened.
I know what I count on...and who I trust. (people)
What do YOU count on?
 
Tessa said:
Why do I believe?
Because God found me when I wasn't looking for Him, I was 7 years old and I danced all the way home, I knew He loves me.

Because God gave me the faith to believe that Jesus Christ, The Son of God,the Messiah died even for me, so that I could live. I would show scripture that He died for all mankind, including them. I would tell them God loves them more than any human being is capable of.

I would tell them of things the Father and Jesus did for me to strengthen my faith.

When I was witnessing one day I asked a last if she believed in God. She said that she didn't but also that she wouldn't harm anyone, just in case she was wrong.

You can't make someone believe you can only plant the seed, pray for them and pray that the Holy Spirit will water that seed.

The Holy Spirit will guide Christians on how to witness for Jesus. You have to pray for guidance and follow that. We will not all witness the same way, and it will depend on the non-believer's answers as to how you go on. But the message of salvation and love is a must.
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Agreed.
Did you tell her that not harming anyone was not enough?
Most humans on this earth do not harm anyone. They try to be good and nice persons.

There's a philosophical word for what this girl was doing, but I can't think of it right now! It's important. I wish Prof. Google could help...
 
wondering said:
Praise God for that!
And you shouldn't.
There are reasons why you could believe...
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As I said, I have my reasons why. To be quite honest with you I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist. As for being a good person, yes I believe that there good people that aren't Christians, but are they good enough in the eyes of God is the real queson.
 
Just to throw it out there, but if we look at how Jesus made disciples, you see this pattern.

1. Belong
2. Believe
3. Behave

We often try to get people to believe first. But that's not what Jesus did. He got them to belong, and through that experience, they believed. As a result, their behavior changed.

If we want to make disciples, we have to make them feel as though they belong, because they do.
 
StoveBolts said:
Just to throw it out there, but if we look at how Jesus made disciples, you see this pattern.

1. Belong
2. Believe
3. Behave

We often try to get people to believe first. But that's not what Jesus did. He got them to belong, and through that experience, they believed. As a result, their behavior changed.

If we want to make disciples, we have to make them feel as though they belong, because they do.
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Good point!
 
Oh. Professor Google is so nice.
It's called Paschal's Wager and it came right up.
I love it. Here it is:

"Why not believe in God? If you believe and you turn out to be wrong, you haven't lost anything. But if you don't believe and you turn out to be wrong, you lose everything. Isn't believing the safer bet?"
In debates about religion, this argument keeps coming up. Over, and over, and over again. In almost any debate about religion, if the debate lasts long enough, someone is almost guaranteed to bring it up. The argument even has a name: Pascal's Wager, after Blaise Pascal, the philosopher who most famously formulated it.
And it makes atheists want to tear our hair out.
Not because it's a great argument... but because it's such a manifestly lousy one. It doesn't make logical sense. It doesn't make practical sense. It trivializes the whole idea of both belief and non-belief. It trivializes reality. In fact, it concedes
etc.....


Source: https://www.alternet.org/story/149920/why_it's_not_a_'safe_bet'_to_believe_in_god/
 
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