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Bible Study Why does Evil act Feminine?

f it were not for women, most churches would fall apart. After all who does most of the work in most churches? It surely is not men. It takes the many membered body of Christ, not just the mouth (pastor) to have a well functioning church.
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That is true
 
StoveBolts said:
I don't think it really matters all that much what the "churches" say. You'll find 30,000 different denominations all holding on to various doctrines that either oppose or uphold one another.
I wish it were as simple as saying, "What does the Bible say", but it is rarely that simple.

There are churches that have woman as pastors. I know a few in my own town. And there are pastors in my town that are bothered horribly that a woman is preaching in the pulpit. Well, I know a few people that are bothered by it too. Anyway, you get my point. The church has been divided since Paul started preaching, and I don't think it's gotten much better... Actually, I think it's gotten worse.

But I do want to touch on something. Just because you've heard you can't be this or you can't be that... it doesn't mean that your only good for x, y or z. And heaven forbid, if your married and your husband says your only good for cleaning 'his' house, having 'his' kids and washing 'his' dirty underwear then by all means, your problem isn't with any church. Simply put, it's with your marriage... and if your going to a church that says your only good for those things, then you might think about attending a different church. Heaven knows you'll find one that will teach exactly what you want them to teach. I even hear some churches are now marrying same sex couples... so if you can find that, I'm sure you'll find a church that 'fits your view'.
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Actually my husband is quite the opposite. He encourages me to use my spiritual gifts and he believes that women are spiritual equals with men. However, when I was single it was impossible to walk into a church and be treated like anything more than a leper or a pathetic weakling. Especially a single mother. The churches I attended didn't want single mothers doing anything in their churches. In fact one pastor even preached (from the pulpit) that I was a Jezebel spirit. This was quite embarrassing in front of the whole church.

Now that I'm married I am much more respectable. But only because I'm attached to a man. It is changing but very slowly.
 
IncredibleTransformation said:
Actually my husband is quite the opposite. He encourages me to use my spiritual gifts and he believes that women are spiritual equals with men. However, when I was single it was impossible to walk into a church and be treated like anything more than a leper or a pathetic weakling. Especially a single mother. The churches I attended didn't want single mothers doing anything in their churches. In fact one pastor even preached (from the pulpit) that I was a Jezebel spirit. This was quite embarrassing in front of the whole church.

Now that I'm married I am much more respectable. But only because I'm attached to a man. It is changing but very slowly.
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Phew! Glad it was only an unsubstantiated rant! You made it sound like your hubby was a real jerk and you hated your church!
 
IncredibleTransformation said:
However, when I was single it was impossible to walk into a church and be treated like anything more than a leper or a pathetic weakling. Especially a single mother. The churches I attended didn't want single mothers doing anything in their churches. In fact one pastor even preached (from the pulpit) that I was a Jezebel spirit. This was quite embarrassing in front of the whole church.

Now that I'm married I am much more respectable. But only because I'm attached to a man. It is changing but very slowly.
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Wow, really? =/
I'm single and I'm very involved at my church. (Though I'm not a mother.)
 
HalleluYAH said:
If it were not for women, most churches would fall apart. After all who does most of the work in most churches? It surely is not men. It takes the many membered body of Christ, not just the mouth (pastor) to have a well functioning church.
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IMO this speaks very low of men... very sad...
 
reba said:
IMO this speaks very low of men... very sad...
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Women often get a bad rap from men. For example,

John 8:3-5
3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

If she were caught in the act, where is the man?
 
Some of the societies during the time of Jesus did indeed have a low view on women.

The Roman society acknowledged the rights of women to be property owners, to hold wealth in their own right, and to be independent of their fathers should their husbands die. Mary Magdalene's society was also of those thoughts, as she had the wealth to travel and to keep her own counsel.

The recognition and acknowledgement of women's contributions have shifted from one side of the pendulum to the other and back again oh so many times over the centuries.
 
AirDancer said:
The Roman society acknowledged the rights of women to be property owners, to hold wealth in their own right, and to be independent of their fathers should their husbands die.
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Any regard they did have for women was mostly from the Etruscan roots, which was very much a step back instead of forward.
 
StoveBolts said:
What we should do, and what we actually do are generally at polar opposites of the spectrum.
It happened... deal with it.
And that's where the real problem often lies doesn't it?... how we "deal with it".
Maybe it's not as much about what should have happened as it is about how we "deal with it".
We live in a broken world.. a fragile world.
How did Adam deal with it? He blamed God.
Genesis 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

He might as well have said, "God, this is your fault. You gave her to me. I didn't need a helper and I don't need to ask for directions."

That's a long way from:
Genesis 2:23 And the man said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

From harmony and unity.. to division and difference.

We have the luxury of hind sight. What would have been a better way for Adam to have dealt with how he viewed his wife? After all, she was still bone of his bone, flesh of his flesh weather he acknowledged it or not.
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if he was able to hear the snake, stop eve from eating the fruit.
 
StoveBolts said:
Snake jasonc ? lol
Serpent, and it's not the same serpent that Moses staff turned into ;-)
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Snakes all of them are serpents.we don't call serpentine belts snake belts.serpentine is from the word serpent which means to move like a snake.serpents are very able move and are flexible yet are strong.
 
jasonc said:
Snakes all of them are serpents.we don't call serpentine belts snake belts.serpentine is from the word serpent which means to move like a snake.serpents are very able move and are flexible yet are strong.
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yeah yeah. I'm just recalling a difference that Ramban made in his commentary when Moses turned the staff into a serpent. He made a pretty big deal about the letters not being the same, which set a different nuance. You understand the Hebrew language, so I'm sure you can see this.
 
StoveBolts said:
yeah yeah. I'm just recalling a difference that Ramban made in his commentary when Moses turned the staff into a serpent. He made a pretty big deal about the letters not being the same, which set a different nuance. You understand the Hebrew language, so I'm sure you can see this.
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I was aware of that but the snake to the Hebrews isn't the same as the devil,jews not the bible make that distinction.yet the English rendering even by the chassidic jews call the snake a serpent.in Gan eden he encircles it to tempt any men.View attachment 7513
 
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