Why ETHNOS is important ????

[dan p]

This is what I see how important ETHNOS is in Matt 28:19 and also in Matt 10:5 .

1) As I was studying Saturday , Feb 20 , 2009 , I looked up a Greek word that I was taking for granted .
As I was looking this word in Vine's , it is also transalted several ways .

2) In Matt 28:19 it reads , " Go therefore , and teach all nations ."

3) This Greek word is ETHNOS , and is translated by our English word Gentiles , liked nation , heathen , a multitude or company .

4) If you all, check out the word Nation it is also the Greek word ETHNOS , CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT ????

5) Now , let us turn to Matt 10:5 and it reads , " Go NOT into the way of the Gentiles " , WHICH IS THE GREEK word ETHNOS ,also .

6) What I am getting at is this , it is a correct translation ," GENTILE " in Matt 10:5 !!!!

7) And " Nation " is correct also ,in Matt 28:19 , BUT what Nation is it talking about ????

8) The so-called Great Commission of Matt 28:19 ," NATION " is talking about the Nation of Israel ONLY .

9) So the great commission is NOT to Gentile Nations but to Law keeping Jews , because in the beginning , the Gospel message was to them only in Matt 3:1-12 and Baptism was Only given to them before they could enter the Millennial Kingdom .

10) So water Baptism was given to Israel only and not to Gentiles .

 

[DarcyLu]

yet, Gentiles were baptized in the NT, Cornelius being the first and so an invitation to all Gentiles to repent, be baptized and saved.

Acts 10:46 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Can any man forbid the water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

 

[dan p]

yet, Gentiles were baptized in the NT, Cornelius being the first and so an invitation to all Gentiles to repent, be baptized and saved.

Acts 10:46 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Can any man forbid the water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Hi , so what is Cornelius calling then , #1 to Israel and then Cornelius becomes a Jew or is his calling , #2 , to become part of the Body of Christ #3 , but how can he become part of the Body , because know one knew that there was a Body of Christ ????

Are we saved by Water or by grace , Eph 2:8 and / or Rom 10:9 ?????

Which , to you is correct ????

 

[DarcyLu]

yet, Gentiles were baptized in the NT, Cornelius being the first and so an invitation to all Gentiles to repent, be baptized and saved.

Acts 10:46 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Can any man forbid the water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Hi , so what is Cornelius calling then , #1 to Israel and then Cornelius becomes a Jew or is his calling , #2 , to become part of the Body of Christ #3 , but how can he become part of the Body , because know one knew that there was a Body of Christ ????

Are we saved by Water or by grace , Eph 2:8 and / or Rom 10:9 ?????

Which , to you is correct ????

hi Dan,
your OP suggests ONLY the nation of Israel was given the commandment of baptism, my answer to you was that baptism was also given to the Gentiles and showed through Cornelius, baptism is offered to all who believe.
Cornelius' calling is the same as ours, to manifest Christ and i disagree, the apostles knew exactly what the Body of Christ was at that time, they knew what it was to be baptized, if they did not, it would not be mentioned at all. The apostles knew those acceptinng Christ and were baptized were now part of the Body of Christ.
Are you baptized Dan?

 

[dan p]

yet, Gentiles were baptized in the NT, Cornelius being the first and so an invitation to all Gentiles to repent, be baptized and saved.

Acts 10:46 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Can any man forbid the water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Hi , so what is Cornelius calling then , #1 to Israel and then Cornelius becomes a Jew or is his calling , #2 , to become part of the Body of Christ #3 , but how can he become part of the Body , because know one knew that there was a Body of Christ ????

Are we saved by Water or by grace , Eph 2:8 and / or Rom 10:9 ?????

Which , to you is correct ????

hi Dan,
your OP suggests ONLY the nation of Israel was given the commandment of baptism, my answer to you was that baptism was also given to the Gentiles and showed through Cornelius, baptism is offered to all who believe.
Cornelius' calling is the same as ours, to manifest Christ and i disagree, the apostles knew exactly what the Body of Christ was at that time, they knew what it was to be baptized, if they did not, it would not be mentioned at all. The apostles knew those acceptinng Christ and were baptized were now part of the Body of Christ.
Are you baptized Dan?

Hi , if you believe that Baptism saves ????

And if you do , why did not Mark 16:15-18 apply to Cornelius ?????

You did not answer if he became a part of Israel or did he become part of the Body of Christ ?????? Give a verse ?????

That is correct , and Matt 28:19 was given to Israel , only , and I used Context to prove it , what can you use , and explained what ETHNOS means ???????

 

[DarcyLu]

Hi , if you believe that Baptism saves ????

And if you do , why did not Mark 16:15-18 apply to Cornelius ?????

You did not answer if he became a part of Israel or did he become part of the Body of Christ ?????? Give a verse ?????

That is correct , and Matt 28:19 was given to Israel , only , and I used Context to prove it , what can you use , and explained what ETHNOS means ???????

hi Dan,
i did not say baptism saves, people can get baptized and not really be saved, i'm sure it happens more than what we would believe. yet, baptism was a commandment Jesus gave to us, just as taking communion. should we be baptized? yes.

Cornelius became both, we are now spiritual Israel AND we are the Body of Christ.

Romans 9:1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience bearing witness with me in the Holy Spirit,
that I have great sorrow and unceasing pain in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were anathema from Christ for my brethren's sake, my kinsmen according to the flesh: who are Israelites; whose is the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; whose are the fathers, and of whom is Christ as concerning the flesh, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. But it is not as though the word of God hath come to nought. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel: neither, because they are Abraham's seed, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, it is not the children of the flesh that are children of God; but the children of the promise are reckoned for a seed.

Ethnos - all nations excluding Israel. it means all nations, except for Israel.

 

[Tabasco Breath]

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[dan p]

If you ask me the Great Commission when taken in context of Matthew almost seems like an anachronism. There are many scholar

Hi TB , and I have to disagree , because God will deal with Israel again during the 7 year Tribulation and to me only , it is amusing How Covenant Theology trys to get rid of Israel , by saying the we as believers are Spiritual Israel !!!!

 

[Tabasco Breath]

...don't know what happened, but the rest of it...


If you ask me the Great Commission when taken in context from Matthew seems like an anachronism. There are many scholars who view it, like other parts of the NT, as a late addition after the church development. When one considers the attitude Jesus took towards the Gentiles, the referencing of The Syrophoenician Woman as a dog (a commonly used derogatory used by Jews towards Gentiles):

"Matthew 15: 26 And He answered and said, "It is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs."

As well as Jesus point blank telling his disciples to avoid the Gentiles;

"Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them:"Do not go in the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter any city of the Samaritans; 6but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

As well as Jesus forewarning how one should respond to giving others guidance:

"Matthew 18:17 "If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector."

Shun them as they would do the Gentile.

To me given Jesus attitude the Great Commission just doesn't fit. Yes, I understand Christianity sees this as a command from Jesus after the sacrifice, and I would tend to agree as well. It was in all likelihood added not only after the resurrection, but after the theology about Jesus was developed.

 

[DarcyLu]

[quote="Tabasco Breath":2h3vl6ut]If you ask me the Great Commission when taken in context of Matthew almost seems like an anachronism. There are many scholar

Hi TB , and I have to disagree , because God will deal with Israel again during the 7 year Tribulation and to me only , it is amusing How Covenant Theology trys to get rid of Israel , by saying the we as believers are Spiritual Israel !!!![/quote:2h3vl6ut]
we ARE spiritual Israel. lol
Rom. 2:29: ... "but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God."

Rom. 4:16: ... "Abraham, who is the father of us all" ...

Gal. 3:7: "Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham."

Gal. 4:26: ... "but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all."

Heb. 12:22-23: "But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, ... to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven," ...

Gal. 6:15-16: "But in Christ it is not circumcision or uncircumcision that counts but the power of new birth. To all who live by this principle, to the true Israel of God, may there be peace and mercy!" [Phillips]

Phil. 3:3: "For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh," ...

Col. 2:11: "In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands," ...

Eph. 2:11-13: "Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh ... that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been made near by the blood of Christ."

Eph. 2:19-20: "Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone," ...

 

[DarcyLu]

forgot this one.....

Luke 1:31-33: "You will conceive in your womb and bear a son; and He will be called Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give Him the throne of His forefather David; and He will be King over the House of Jacob for the Ages, and of His Kingdom there will be no end."

 

[dan p]

[quote="Tabasco Breath":1xo3j28d]If you ask me the Great Commission when taken in context of Matthew almost seems like an anachronism. There are many scholar

Hi TB , and I have to disagree , because God will deal with Israel again during the 7 year Tribulation and to me only , it is amusing How Covenant Theology trys to get rid of Israel , by saying the we as believers are Spiritual Israel !!!!

we ARE spiritual Israel. lol
Rom. 2:29: ... "but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God."

Rom. 4:16: ... "Abraham, who is the father of us all" ...

Gal. 3:7: "Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham."

Gal. 4:26: ... "but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all."

Heb. 12:22-23: "But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, ... to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven," ...

Gal. 6:15-16: "But in Christ it is not circumcision or uncircumcision that counts but the power of new birth. To all who live by this principle, to the true Israel of God, may there be peace and mercy!" [Phillips]

Phil. 3:3: "For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh," ...

Col. 2:11: "In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands," ...

Eph. 2:11-13: "Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh ... that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been made near by the blood of Christ."

Eph. 2:19-20: "Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone," ...[/quote:1xo3j28d]

Hi glorydaz , will you give a verse that says , that we are Spiritual Israel or just write the one that you say , best says that ?

 

[DarcyLu]

Hi glorydaz , will you give a verse that says , that we are Spiritual Israel or just write the one that you say , best says that ?

hi dan, more than likely you are asking me this question as i was the one who wrote the scripture you quoted and not glory.
when you take all the verses as a whole, it clearly shows we are spiritual Israel and the dispensationalism is clearly a false theory. do you believe one of the signs of the end of this age is Israel rebuilding their temple as most dispensationlist do?
if so, why would Jesus die for our sins, offer us the free gift of salvation, tell us we are His temple now -and then require Israel to build a temple with hands and begin sacrifices again?

if you do not believe this, then please accept my apology for my presumption.
God bless -

 

[dan p]

Hi DarcyLu , will you give a verse that says , that we are Spiritual Israel or just write the one that you say , best says that ?

hi dan, more than likely you are asking me this question as i was the one who wrote the scripture you quoted and not glory.
when you take all the verses as a whole, it clearly shows we are spiritual Israel and the dispensationalism is clearly a false theory. do you believe one of the signs of the end of this age is Israel rebuilding their temple as most dispensationlist do?
if so, why would Jesus die for our sins, offer us the free gift of salvation, tell us we are His temple now -and then require Israel to build a temple with hands and begin sacrifices again?

if you do not believe this, then please accept my apology for my presumption.
God bless -

Hi DracyLu , I am alway glad to answer any question , especially when it concerns Dispensationalism , especially from those that think they know what it is and most Covenant Thelogy and Acts 2 , believers and one gospel believers have no clue and ALWAY say that it is a recent invention by Darby and Shofield .

That is not so , because it is spoken by the Holy Spirit that caused Paul to write it , some 2000 years ago , and YET some alway say , a recent invention , how quaint .

There have alway been recent newpaper articles on a RED Hefier found in Texas , that Jews are making the articles that are used in the temple that will be built .

We do know that the temple will be rebuilt and is found in Dan 9:25-27 and in Matt 24:15 and the A-millennial , and most Covenant theologian hold to this view and hold to the view that we are Spiritual Israel , and would like to see a verse that says that ?

I believe in the So-called rapture , which really should be called the Departure and this the best that I can do , but I am sure that I will have many OP , on the Departure , on Revelation and on what Paul calls the MYSTERY .

 

[DarcyLu]

Hi DracyLu , I am alway glad to answer any question , especially when it concerns Dispensationalism , especially from those that think they know what it is and most Covenant Thelogy and Acts 2 , believers and one gospel believers have no clue and ALWAY say that it is a recent invention by Darby and Shofield

That is not so , because it is spoken by the Holy Spirit that caused Paul to write it , some 2000 years ago , and YET some alway say , a recent invention , how quaint ..

John Darby DID invent it and it IS quit new.
the entire Word from Gen - Rev points to Jesus Christ, the Israelites were given prophecy after prophecy concerning the coming Christ and the new covenant, He came and they rejected Him AND the new covenant. The way was then opened up to the Gentiles to join in the promises of Israel, those who are in Christ are Israel, too, believers are either of national Israel or they are Spiritual Israel, we are not direct decendants of the nation of Israel, yet we are still Israel. If we are found in Christ, we are His children. We were not His people, but now we are.

There have alway been recent newpaper articles on a RED Hefier found in Texas , that Jews are making the articles that are used in the temple that will be built .

We do know that the temple will be rebuilt and is found in Dan 9:25-27 and in Matt 24:15 and the A-millennial , and most Covenant theologian hold to this view and hold to the view that we are Spiritual Israel , and would like to see a verse that says that ?

i have heard they have plans drawn up for the new temple, unnecessary. the Israelities do not need to perform more sacrifices, there is no other law to fulfill, there are no more sins to offer sacrifice for. WE are His temple, Christ lives IN us.

I believe in the So-called rapture , which really should be called the Departure and this the best that I can do , but I am sure that I will have many OP , on the Departure , on Revelation and on what Paul calls the MYSTERY .

there isn't a rapture.

 

[Cornelius]

Hi DracyLu , I am alway glad to answer any question , especially when it concerns Dispensationalism , especially from those that think they know what it is and most Covenant Thelogy and Acts 2 , believers and one gospel believers have no clue and ALWAY say that it is a recent invention by Darby and Shofield

That is not so , because it is spoken by the Holy Spirit that caused Paul to write it , some 2000 years ago , and YET some alway say , a recent invention , how quaint ..

John Darby DID invent it and it IS quit new.
the entire Word from Gen - Rev points to Jesus Christ, the Israelites were given prophecy after prophecy concerning the coming Christ and the new covenant, He came and they rejected Him AND the new covenant. The way was then opened up to the Gentiles to join in the promises of Israel, those who are in Christ are Israel, too, believers are either of national Israel or they are Spiritual Israel, we are not direct decendants of the nation of Israel, yet we are still Israel. If we are found in Christ, we are His children. We were not His people, but now we are.
[quote="dan p":1m9gx97d]
There have alway been recent newpaper articles on a RED Hefier found in Texas , that Jews are making the articles that are used in the temple that will be built .

We do know that the temple will be rebuilt and is found in Dan 9:25-27 and in Matt 24:15 and the A-millennial , and most Covenant theologian hold to this view and hold to the view that we are Spiritual Israel , and would like to see a verse that says that ?

i have heard they have plans drawn up for the new temple, unnecessary. the Israelities do not need to perform more sacrifices, there is no other law to fulfill, there are no more sins to offer sacrifice for. WE are His temple, Christ lives IN us.

I believe in the So-called rapture , which really should be called the Departure and this the best that I can do , but I am sure that I will have many OP , on the Departure , on Revelation and on what Paul calls the MYSTERY .

there isn't a rapture.[/quote:1m9gx97d]
Amen Straight from the Word .

 

[Boanerges]

This is what I see how important ETHNOS is in Matt 28:19 and also in Matt 10:5 .

1) As I was studying Saturday , Feb 20 , 2009 , I looked up a Greek word that I was taking for granted .
As I was looking this word in Vine's , it is also transalted several ways .

2) In Matt 28:19 it reads , " Go therefore , and teach all nations ."

3) This Greek word is ETHNOS , and is translated by our English word Gentiles , liked nation , heathen , a multitude or company .

4) If you all, check out the word Nation it is also the Greek word ETHNOS , CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT ????

5) Now , let us turn to Matt 10:5 and it reads , " Go NOT into the way of the Gentiles " , WHICH IS THE GREEK word ETHNOS ,also .

6) What I am getting at is this , it is a correct translation ," GENTILE " in Matt 10:5 !!!!

7) And " Nation " is correct also ,in Matt 28:19 , BUT what Nation is it talking about ????

8) The so-called Great Commission of Matt 28:19 ," NATION " is talking about the Nation of Israel ONLY .

9) So the great commission is NOT to Gentile Nations but to Law keeping Jews , because in the beginning , the Gospel message was to them only in Matt 3:1-12 and Baptism was Only given to them before they could enter the Millennial Kingdom .

10) So water Baptism was given to Israel only and not to Gentiles .

Re-translating the bible takes more than a few definitions . When I have trouble with a verse I like to do a cross comparison of multiple translations. The translators were men who generally read and wrote Greek and Hebrew like you and i would read a newspaper. You will note that not one of them seems to agree with your revision of Matthew :

Mat 28:19

(ASV) Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:

(Bishops) Go ye therfore, & teache all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father, and of the sonne, and of the holye ghost:

(CEV) Go to the people of all nations and make them my disciples. Baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit,

(Darby) Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit;

(DRB) Going therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.

(EMTV) Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

(ESV) Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

(Geneva) Go therefore, & teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and the Sonne, and the holy Ghost,

(GNB) Go, then, to all peoples everywhere and make them my disciples: baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit,


(ISV) Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

(KJV+) GoG4198 ye therefore,G3767 and teachG3100 allG3956 nations,G1484 baptizingG907 themG846 inG1519 theG3588 nameG3686 of theG3588 Father,G3962 andG2532 of theG3588 Son,G5207 andG2532 of theG3588 HolyG40 Ghost:G4151

(KJV-1611) Goe ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and of the Sonne, and of the holy Ghost:

(KJVA) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

(LITV) Then having gone, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

(MKJV) Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

(Murdock) Go ye, therefore, and instruct all nations; and baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

(RV) Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost:

(Webster) Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.


(YLT) having gone, then, disciple all the nations, (baptizing them--to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

 

[dan p]

This is what I see how important ETHNOS is in Matt 28:19 and also in Matt 10:5 .

1) As I was studying Saturday , Feb 20 , 2009 , I looked up a Greek word that I was taking for granted .
As I was looking this word in Vine's , it is also transalted several ways .

2) In Matt 28:19 it reads , " Go therefore , and teach all nations ."

3) This Greek word is ETHNOS , and is translated by our English word Gentiles , liked nation , heathen , a multitude or company .

4) If you all, check out the word Nation it is also the Greek word ETHNOS , CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT ????

5) Now , let us turn to Matt 10:5 and it reads , " Go NOT into the way of the Gentiles " , WHICH IS THE GREEK word ETHNOS ,also .

6) What I am getting at is this , it is a correct translation ," GENTILE " in Matt 10:5 !!!!

7) And " Nation " is correct also ,in Matt 28:19 , BUT what Nation is it talking about ????

8) The so-called Great Commission of Matt 28:19 ," NATION " is talking about the Nation of Israel ONLY .

9) So the great commission is NOT to Gentile Nations but to Law keeping Jews , because in the beginning , the Gospel message was to them only in Matt 3:1-12 and Baptism was Only given to them before they could enter the Millennial Kingdom .

10) So water Baptism was given to Israel only and not to Gentiles .

Re-translating the bible takes more than a few definitions . When I have trouble with a verse I like to do a cross comparison of multiple translations. The translators were men who generally read and wrote Greek and Hebrew like you and i would read a newspaper. You will note that not one of them seems to agree with your revision of Matthew :

Mat 28:19

(ASV) Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:

(Bishops) Go ye therfore, & teache all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father, and of the sonne, and of the holye ghost:

(CEV) Go to the people of all nations and make them my disciples. Baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit,

(Darby) Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit;

(DRB) Going therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.

(EMTV) Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

(ESV) Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

(Geneva) Go therefore, & teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and the Sonne, and the holy Ghost,

(GNB) Go, then, to all peoples everywhere and make them my disciples: baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit,


(ISV) Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

(KJV+) GoG4198 ye therefore,G3767 and teachG3100 allG3956 nations,G1484 baptizingG907 themG846 inG1519 theG3588 nameG3686 of theG3588 Father,G3962 andG2532 of theG3588 Son,G5207 andG2532 of theG3588 HolyG40 Ghost:G4151

(KJV-1611) Goe ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and of the Sonne, and of the holy Ghost:

(KJVA) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

(LITV) Then having gone, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

(MKJV) Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

(Murdock) Go ye, therefore, and instruct all nations; and baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

(RV) Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost:

(Webster) Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.


(YLT) having gone, then, disciple all the nations, (baptizing them--to the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

Hi Boanerges , and all you did is quote from many translations and translations are NOT inspired as the Original Autographs are . That being said , what needs to be done you did not do , and that is to prove what ETHNOS means and prove the OP wrong .

I believe that you are either concerned , more about the so-called Great Commission, to the Gentiles or Water Baptism or have you lost sight , that we are saved by Grace , Eph 2:8

 

[Boanerges]

I guess that every Bible translator, all the church for the last two thousand years and I will simply have to disagree with your interpretation.

Mat 28:19 GoG4198 ye therefore,G3767 and teachG3100 allG3956 nations,G1484 baptizingG907 themG846 inG1519 theG3588 nameG3686 of theG3588 Father,G3962 andG2532 of theG3588 Son,G5207 andG2532 of theG3588 HolyG40 Ghost:G4151

The Gentiles were pretty much off limits (except converts to Judaism) until Christ rose from the dead.
It is God Himself that sent Peter and Paul as Apostles to the Gentiles and Jesus command was to go into all nations.

From The Vines Expository Dictionary of the New Testament:
Nation

1. ethnos (G1484), originally "a multitude," denotes (a) "a nation" or "people," e.g., Mat_24:7; Act_10:35; the Jewish people, e.g., Luk_7:5; Luk_23:2; Joh_11:48, Joh_11:50-52; Act_10:22; Act_24:2, Act_24:10, Act_24:17; in Mat_21:43, the reference is to Israel in its restored condition, (b) in the plural "the nations" as distinct from Israel. See GENTILES.

The roots of Baptism:

The practice of Baptism for forgiveness of sins was in fact previously (prior to and leading up to John) as symbolic of Gentiles being washed from their sinful past as they converted to Judaism. That being the case this practice was applied to Gentiles before it was in widespread practice with the Jewish people:
From Albert Barnes Notes on the Bible:
Mat 3:6
Were baptized - The word “baptize†??????? baptizo signifies originally to tinge, to dye, to stain, as those who dye clothes. It here means to cleanse or wash anything by the application of water. See the notes at Mar_7:4. Washing, or ablution, was much in use among the Jews, as one of the rites of their religion, Num_19:7; Heb_9:10. It was not customary, however, among them to baptize those who were converted to the Jewish religion until after the Babylonian captivity. At the time of John, and for some time previous, they had been accustomed to administer a rite of baptism, or washing, to those who became proselytes to their religion; that is, to those who were converted from being Gentiles. This was done to signify that they renounced the errors and worship of the pagans, and as significant of their becoming pure by embracing a new religion.
It was a solemn rite of washing, significant of cleansing from their former sins, and purifying them for the special service of Yahweh. John found this custom in use; and as he was calling the Jews to a new dispensation - to a change in their form of religion - he administered this rite of baptism (washing), to signify the cleansing from sin, the adopting of the new dispensation, or the fitness for the pure reign of the Messiah. He applied an old ordinance to a new purpose. As it was used by him it was a significant rite, or ceremony, intended to denote the putting away of impurity, and a purpose to be pure in heart and life. The Hebrew word ??? Tabal which is rendered by the word “baptize,†occurs in the Old Testament in the following places, namely: Lev_4:6; Lev_14:6, Lev_14:51; Num_19:18; Rth_2:14; Exo_12:22; Deu_33:24; Jos_3:15; Job_9:31; Lev_9:9; 1Sa_14:27 (twice); 2Ki_5:14; 2Ki_8:15; Gen_37:31; Jos_3:15.