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Once God created Heaven, why create earth and humanity as we know it?
 
Perhaps because God is love and desires love. When we choose to believe in Him and follow Him and love Him and love others, we bring Him joy.
 
Perhaps God wanted someone to share creation with. Perhaps God was lonely. God alone knows the reason.
 
JoJo said:
Perhaps because God is love and desires love. When we choose to believe in Him and follow Him and love Him and love others, we bring Him joy.
:amen
 
TCHOP561 said:
JoJo said:
Perhaps because God is love and desires love. When we choose to believe in Him and follow Him and love Him and love others, we bring Him joy.

:amen

Read the above post.
 
lucasdwi said:
NooneSpecial said:
Perhaps God was lonely.
JoJo said:
Perhaps because God is love and desires love....we bring Him joy.
Are you saying that God is incomplete? e.g Lonely or desires love.

No. But being a single entity with all the power, even that can get a little dull. Did not mean to imply anything of the sort of God being needy or incomplete. Not that I would want to wear his shoes, but if I were all powerful and had no one to share things with, let alone observe, my existance would be pretty boring.
 
NooneSpecial said:
Not that I would want to wear his shoes, but if I were all powerful and had no one to share things with, let alone observe, my existance would be pretty boring.
But I am saying after God created Heaven, so God already has people to be with, this is besides the point though because can we really apply human emotions and traits to a divine figure like God when talking about wants? Can God want something?
 
JoJo said:
Perhaps because God is love and desires love. When we choose to believe in Him and follow Him and love Him and love others, we bring Him joy.

Good answer, JoJo...
 
But being a single entity with all the power, even that can get a little dull. Did not mean to imply anything of the sort of God being needy or incomplete. Not that I would want to wear his shoes, but if I were all powerful and had no one to share things with, let alone observe, my existance would be pretty boring.

But if God is a Trinity, don't the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share the most perfect fellowship possible? How could any one of Them get lonely?

Also, didn't God exist for an infinite amount of time prior to creating people? Why did He suddenly becoming lonely at a certain point in time so that He created people?
 
lucasdwi said:
Once God created Heaven, why create earth and humanity as we know it?


Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O LORD, to receive glory and honour and power: for Thou hast created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are and were created."

Psalms 147:11 The LORD taketh pleasure in them that fear Him, In those that hope in His mercy.

149:4 For the LORD taketh pleasure in His People: He will beautify the meek with salvation
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dadof10 said:
JoJo said:
Perhaps because God is love and desires love. When we choose to believe in Him and follow Him and love Him and love others, we bring Him joy.

Good answer, JoJo...

Look at my reply to JoJo, I don't think that is a good answer at all.
paidion said:
But if God is a Trinity, don't the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share the most perfect fellowship possible? How could any one of Them get lonely?

Also, didn't God exist for an infinite amount of time prior to creating people? Why did He suddenly becoming lonely at a certain point in time so that He created people?
Thank you paidion, you understand my point of view!

whirlwind said:
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O LORD, to receive glory and honour and power: for Thou hast created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are and were created
I have already addressed the idea that God did it for God's own pleasure, please read some of my posts above.
 
lucasdwi said:
I have already addressed the idea that God did it for God's own pleasure, please read some of my posts above.


I thought you might like some scriptural backup.
:)
 
lucasdwi said:
NooneSpecial said:
Perhaps God was lonely.
JoJo said:
Perhaps because God is love and desires love....we bring Him joy.
Are you saying that God is incomplete? e.g Lonely or desires love.
God created Adam to NEED Eve, and thereby FAMILY...

God is complete as He is...He is MORE COMPLETE, with FAMILY
 
The only way there really is an answer is from an understanding that God is a trinity. Only if God isn't a trinity can the argument then be made that he was in need of love. Indeed, if God is Love, then he must be more than one since the very idea of love demands an object to love and subject who loves.

So, no, God didn't need to create humans for love and companionship but he desired to create man that he might take pleasure in us and us in him. Why should he not create people to be in relationship with?
 
Free said:
So, no, God didn't need to create humans for love and companionship but he desired to create man that he might take pleasure in us and us in him. Why should he not create people to be in relationship with?
To say that someone has a desire means they are lacking, incomplete. If I desire a book, then I do not have it.

Ret said:
God created Adam to NEED Eve, and thereby FAMILY...

God is complete as He is...He is MORE COMPLETE, with FAMILY
That last statement, "He is MORE COMPLETE" is, no offense meant, completely nonsensical. To say that something is complete means that is whole, finished, having all parts, to say that something is "more complete" is like saying something is full, like a glass of water, and then you pour more water in to make it more full. Do you understand why that is nonsensical?
 
lucasdwi said:
Ret said:
God created Adam to NEED Eve, and thereby FAMILY...

God is complete as He is...He is MORE COMPLETE, with FAMILY
That last statement, "He is MORE COMPLETE" is, no offense meant, completely nonsensical. To say that something is complete means that is whole, finished, having all parts, to say that something is "more complete" is like saying something is full, like a glass of water, and then you pour more water in to make it more full. Do you understand why that is nonsensical?

"More Complete" comes from the fact that scripture does deal spiritual things in this life that are GOOD but they becomes 'BETTER' IN CHRIST. Many expressions in the book of Hebrews... 'Better covenant, Better promises...I did not come up with this idea...it's in the written word!

Imagine...a person being taught MORE PERFECTLY, about the scriptures. Example....

Acts 18:24-26

24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.

25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.

26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly. KJV


Call it 'NONSENSICAL' if you like...I believe God is 'MORE COMPLETE' with FAMILY!
 
Paidion said:
But being a single entity with all the power, even that can get a little dull. Did not mean to imply anything of the sort of God being needy or incomplete. Not that I would want to wear his shoes, but if I were all powerful and had no one to share things with, let alone observe, my existance would be pretty boring.

But if God is a Trinity, don't the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share the most perfect fellowship possible? How could any one of Them get lonely?

Also, didn't God exist for an infinite amount of time prior to creating people? Why did He suddenly becoming lonely at a certain point in time so that He created people?

Okay..so I do not know. Honestly though do any of us know just why God does everything He does?
 
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