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Why Paul??

realchild said:
That you can't have a relationship with the bible but the holy spirit of God.
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Sure you can:
38 He (Moses) was in the assembly in the wilderness, with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our ancestors; and he received living words to pass on to us. (Acts 7:38 NASB)
 
Kidron said:
The bible is the word of God, and is inspired by the Holy Spirt, and because of this.....any "inner voice" that is leading you, that does not agree with the word of God, is not the Holy Spirit.
So, be real careful with those inner voices, and always let the Bible be your guide.
As a matter of fact, any voice that is leading you to come to a thread thats only about the Bible being the final authority, and these inner voices are leading you to say that the "spirit" is more important then obeying and trusting the word of God as your final authority....
Well, i suggest you think about that, realchild.
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Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling as the bible says, not mine. You already mentioned this to me once there is no need to repeat yourself, so I ask you now to take a step back.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
Sure you can:
38 He (Moses) was in the assembly in the wilderness, with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our ancestors; and he received living words to pass on to us. (Acts 7:38 NASB)
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Rage comes from resentment Jethro.
 
realchild said:
Can you explain that to me Jeth.
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Some people think the correct answer for people's rage is to stop the thing that causes their rage, but actually the best and first answer is to not respond in rage. Whether justified or not, it's a very destructive quality of human nature that must be put to death by the power of the Holy Spirit. There are better ways to deal with the things that provoke rage in us.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
Some people think the correct answer for people's rage is to stop the thing that causes their rage, but actually the best and first answer is to not respond in rage. Whether justified or not, it's a very destructive quality of human nature that must be put to death by the power of the Holy Spirit. There are better ways to deal with the things that provoke rage in us.
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Rage is like eating oranges, because when you eat an orange it always feels like it's sending.
 
Kidron said:
Now, for the benefit of those who are not seminary trained and have not been taught how to "rightly divide the word" .
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no i am not seminary trained nor have i been taught how to rightly divide the truth. i read i study i search i let the spirit of truth guide me. i use and have cut my teeth on the kjv bible. my 2 personal preferences nkjv and the hscb . i am not a fan of the niv. might i also add that we have a unction {the indwelling of the Holy Spirit} discernment . they say to discover fake money. the spend time studying the real thing. i think one of our biggest problems is today. we have thousands of teachers {wanna be} but not many fathers in the LORD. who has studied and come through the Holy Ghost school hard knocks. it takes time and effort to understand the Bible. a person can have a p h d =pilled high and deep degree . with out the anointing its usless
 
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ezra said:
no i am not seminary trained nor have i been taught how to rightly divide the truth. i read i study i search i let the spirit of truth guide me. i use and have cut my teeth on the kjv bible. my 2 personal preferences nkjv and the hscb . i am not a fan of the niv
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I am a fan of the NIV and I'm also a fan of you.
 
Kidron said:
Reba writes...
""""KJB is my favorite *It is not the Word of God* because it is King James...""""""
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i agree with her i have seen kjv is the authorized version ordained by God... NOT K.J just happened to be the man who had the Bible published
 
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ezra said:
no i am not seminary trained nor have i been taught how to rightly divide the truth. i read i study i search i let the spirit of truth guide me. i use and have cut my teeth on the kjv bible. my 2 personal preferences nkjv and the hscb . i am not a fan of the niv. might i also add that we have a unction {the indwelling of the Holy Spirit} discernment . they say to discover fake money. the spend time studying the real thing. i think one of our biggest problems is today. we have thousands of teachers {wanna be} but not many fathers in the LORD. who has studied and come through the Holy Ghost school hard knocks. it takes time and effort to understand the Bible. a person can have a p h d =pilled high and deep degree . with out the anointing its usless
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Yes,
absolutely.

the "school of the Spirit" is the believer's school that has to be experienced, and this takes time.

A problem for a lot of ministers is that they were called, then they ran to "the best" seminary then jumped behind a pulpit, ill equipped, full of education , yet lacking any wisdom from God, as their goal is to be the next Joel Osteen or Cardinal whomever., with "position" falsely validating their missing spirituality.
The fact is, they will fail, and if they dont fail, they will do nothing but create failures.

There is a spiritual reality regarding being called into a Ministry, and that reality is defined as "enabling", whereby the Holy Spirit schools a "called" person.....= enables this person to be the minister that God has called them to become.
This is a time based operation, whereby the person's carnality is dealt with as they are chastened and matured, by a process of spiritual enabling, so that they are eventually to become effective spiritual leaders.
Many have not experienced this school.
 
ezra said:
i agree with her i have seen kjv is the authorized version ordained by God... NOT K.J just happened to be the man who had the Bible published
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Yes, KJ is the monarch who paid to have a bible created so that the masses could have it for Free, as he wanted the word of God into everyone's hands.
This is why this bible, 400 + years after it was created then revised once for "spelling" updates, is still Free to reprint by anyone.
There is no copyright issue with the KJV, as KJ dictated that this bible was to always be free to reprint.
All other versions are owned by their creators, and you have to $$$$ PAY THEM MONEY $$$ if you want to reprint their bible version.
Not so with the KJV.
You can actually take your printer and print 1,000 Authorized Versions or a billion if you have the time, and give them away or sell them..whatever, but you never have to pay someone to do it., as this ONE BIBLE is free to reprint.
 
Kidron said:
Oh absolutely.
However, no other bible has produced as much "fruit" as the KJV.
Its the #1 best selling book ever created.
Its the gold standard that you can use to scripture reference against any other bible version.
Here is something else about the KJV that is different then any other bible...
It has a "crown stamp", and this means that its free to reproduce., in other words, there is no charge and no "copyright" law that will prevent anyone anywhere from reproducing it to sell or to give away.
Its the only truly FREE Bible that is freely produced by anyone anywhere, who wants to print it or any part of it.
Every other "NEW" bible version, has a copyright, and you cant print them for free, you have to pay the people that produced it some $$$$$$$$ MONEY $$$$$$, if you want to use "their" bible.
See, this is the reason for all the new versions being created....is to make MONEY by telling you that their bible is "better, easier to understand"...blah, blah, blah, HYPE.
However the KJV was originally created to be given away for FREE to everyone.
So, i think the word of God was supposed to be FREE, and the KJV is the only freely reproduced bible that exists for over 400 years now.
Anyone can print the KJV., as there is no copyright.
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You seem to have forgotten something about "some $$$$$$$$ MONEY $$$$$$". I don't know of any Christian bookstore where I can obtain a hardbound copy of the KJV for FREE. So, even the sale of the KJV is used to help Christian bookstores make a profit. They need something to help pay the rent and wages of employees and KJV sales are not exempt from helping them.

So, do you approve of King James authorising the KJV for the Church of England? See 'King James Version'.

Oz
 
reba said:
KJB is my favorite It is not the Word of God because it is King James... Those folks who came before had the Word... What happenes to KJ when it is translated into some language not english? it is still King James.. :shrug
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Which versions translate from the KJV into a non-English language?
 
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