Why Protestant churches dont keep the Sabbath.

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Many Protestant church's in the Christian world reverence Sunday, did God know that this attempt to change His holy Sabbath would occur?
"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. " Daniel 7:25

"Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20:28-30

Yes, long ago God predicted that, from within the church itself, misguided men would arise who would attempt to change His holy law. So the prophecy was true, and it has come to fruition as the Sabbath and those who kept it were swept away, and a substitute put in. We see this in many Protestant church's today, but do they know the truth of the matter...

 

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Whats interesting is some of their statements on the Sabbath, here is what the Protestant churches have on it:

Anglican:
"And where are we told in the Scriptures that we are to keep the first day at all? We are commanded to keep the seventh; but we are nowhere commanded to keep the first day... The reason why we keep the first day of the week holy instead of the seventh is for the same reason that we observe many other things, not because the Bible, but because the Church, has enjoined it." Isaac Williams, Plain Sermons on the Catechism, pages 334, 336.

Baptist:
'There was and is a command to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not Sunday. It will however be readily said, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week, with all its duties, privileges and sanctions. Earnestly desiring information on this subject, which I have studied for many years, I ask, where can the record of such a transaction be found: Not in the New Testament absolutely not. There is no scriptural evidence of the change of the Sabbath institution from the seventh to the first day of the week.' Dr. E. T. Hiscox, author of the Baptist Manual.
"To me it seems unaccountable that Jesus, during three years' discussion with His disciples, often conversing with them upon the Sabbath question, discussing it in some of its various aspects, freeing it from its false [Jewish traditional] glosses, never alluded to any transference of the day; also, that during the forty days of His resurrection life, no such thing was intimated. Nor, so far as we know, did the Spirit, which was given to bring to their remembrance all things whatsoever that He had said unto them, deal with this question. Nor yet did the inspired apostles, in preaching the gospel, founding churches, counseling and instructing those founded, discuss or approach the subject.
Of course I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history as a religious day as we learn from the Christian Fathers and other sources. But what a pity that it comes branded with the mark of Paganism, and christened with the name of the sun-god, then adopted and sanctified by the Papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism." Dr. E. T. Hiscox, report of his sermon at the Baptist Minister's Convention, in 'New York Examiner,' November 16, 1893
"The Scriptures nowhere call the first day of the week the Sabbath. . .There is no Scriptural authority for so doing, nor of course, any Scriptural obligation." The Watchman.
"We believe that the law of God is the eternal and unchangeable rule of His moral government."-"Baptist Church Manual," Art. 12.
"There was never any formal or authoritative change from the Jewish seventh-day Sabbath to the Christian first-day observance." -WILLIAM OWEN CARVER, "The Lord's Day in Our Day," page 49.
"There is nothing in Scripture that requires us to keep Sunday rather than Saturday as a holy day." Harold Lindsell (editor), Christianity Today, Nov. 5, 1976

Church of Christ:
"But we do not find any direct command from God, or instruction from the risen Christ, or admonition from the early apostles, that the first day is to be substituted for the seventh day Sabbath." "Let us be clear on this point. Though to the Christian 'that day, the first day of the week' is the most memorable of all days ... there is no command or warrant in the New Testament for observing it as a holy day." "The Roman Church selected the first day of the week in honour of the resurrection of Christ. ..." Bible Standard, May, 1916, Auckland, New Zealand.
"... If the fourth command is binding upon us Gentiles by all means keep it. But let those who demand a strict observance of the Sabbath remember that the seventh day is the ONLY sabbath day commanded, and God never repealed that command. If you would keep the Sabbath, keep it; but Sunday is not the Sabbath. The argument of the 'Seventh-day Adventists' is on one point unassailable. It is the Seventh day not the first day that the command refers to." G. Alridge, Editor, The Bible Standard, April, 1916.
"There is no direct Scriptural authority for designating the first day the Lord's day."-DR. D. H. LUCAS, Christian Oracle, Jan. 23, 1890.
"The first day of the week is commonly called the Sabbath. This is a mistake. The Sabbath of the Bible was the day just preceding the first day of the week. The first day of the week is never called the Sabbath anywhere in the entire Scriptures. It is also an error to talk about the change of the Sabbath. There never was any change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. There is not in any place in the Bible any intimation of such a change."-"First-Day Observance," pages 17, 19.
"It has reversed the fourth commandment by doing away with the Sabbath of God's Word, and instituting Sunday as a holiday." DR. N. SUMMERBELL, "History of the Christian Church," Third Edition, page 4I5.
"To command...men...to observe...the Lord's day...is contrary to the gospel." - "Memoirs of Alexander Campbell," Vol. 1, page 528.
"It is clearly proved that the pastors of the churches have struck out one of God's ten words, which, not only in the Old Testament, but in all revelation, are the most emphatically regarded as the synopsis of all religion and morality."-ALEXANDER CAMPBELL, "Debate With Purcell," page 214.
"I do not believe that the Lord's day came in the room of the Jewish Sabbath, or that the Sabbath was changed from the seventh to the first day, for this plain reason, where there is no testimony, there can be no faith. Now there is no testimony in all the oracles of heaven that the Sabbath was changed, or that the Lord's day came in the room of it."-ALEXANDER CAMPBELL, Washington Reporter, Oct. 8, 1821.

 

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Episcopalian:
"We have made the change from the seventh day to the first day, from Saturday to Sunday, on the authority of the one holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church of Christ." Bishop Symour, Why We keep Sunday.
"The Bible commandment says on the seventh-day thou shalt rest. That is Saturday. Nowhere in the Bible is it laid down that worship should be done on Sunday." Phillip Carrington, quoted in Toronto Daily Star, Oct 26, 1949 [Carrington (1892-), Anglican archbishop of Quebec

Lutheran:
"The observance of the Lord's Day (Sunday) is founded not on any command of God, but on the authority of the Church." Augsburg Confession of Faith.
"They [the Catholics] allege the Sabbath changed into Sunday, the Lord's day, contrary to the Decalogue, as it appears, neither is there any example more boasted of than the changing of the Sabbath day. Great, say they, is the power and authority of the church, since it dispensed with one of the Ten Commandments." -Augsburg Confession of Faith, Art. 28, par. 9.
"They [Roman Catholics] allege the change of the Sabbath into the Lord's day, as it seemeth, to the Decalogue [the ten commandments]; and they have no example more in their mouths than they change of the Sabbath. They will needs have the Church's power to be very great, because it hath dispensed with the precept of the Decalogue." The Augsburg Confession, 1530 A.D. (Lutheran), part 2, art 7, in Philip Schaff, the Creeds of Christiandom, 4th Edition, vol 3, p64 [this important statement was made by the Lutherans and written by Melanchthon, only thirteen years after Luther nailed his theses to the door and began the Reformation].
"For up to this day mankind has absolutely trifled with the original and most special revelation of the Holy God, the ten words written upon the tables of the Law from Sinai."-"Crown Theological Library," page I78.
"The Christians in the ancient church very soon distinguished the first day of the week, Sunday; however, not as a Sabbath, but as an assembly day of the church, to study the Word of God together, and to celebrate the ordinances one with another: without a shadow of doubt, this took place as early as the first part of the second century."-Bishop GRIMELUND, "History of the Sabbath," page 60.
"The festival of Sunday, like all other festivals, was always only a human ordinance."- AUGUSTUS NEANDER, "History of the Christian Religion and Church," Vol. 1, page 186.
"I wonder exceedingly how it came to be imputed to me that I should reject the law of Ten Commandments...Whosoever abrogates the law must of necessity abrogate sin also."-MARTIN LUTHER, Spiritual Antichrist," pages 71, 72.
"We have seen how gradually the impression of the Jewish Sabbath faded from the mind of the Christian church, and how completely the newer thought underlying the observance of the first day took possession of the church. We have seen that the Christian of the first three centuries never confused one with the other, but for a time celebrated both." The Sunday Problem, a study book by the Lutheran Church (1923) p.36
"But they err in teaching that Sunday has taken the place of the Old Testament Sabbath and therefore must be kept as the seventh day had to be kept by the children of Israel .... These churches err in their teaching, for scripture has in no way ordained the first day of the week in place of the Sabbath. There is simply no law in the New Testament to that effect" John Theodore Mueller, Sabbath or Sunday, pp.15, 16.....

 

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Methodist:
"This 'handwriting of ordinances' our Lord did blot out, take away, and nail to His cross. (Colossians 2: 14.) But the moral law contained in the Ten Commandments, and enforced by the prophets, He did not take away.... The moral law stands on an entirely different foundation from the ceremonial or ritual law. ...Every part of this law must remain in force upon all mankind and in all ages."-JOHN WESLEY, "Sermons on Several Occasions," 2-Vol. Edition, Vol. I, pages 221, 222.
"No Christian whatsoever is free from the obedience of the commandments which are called moral."-"Methodist Church Discipline," (I904), page 23.
"The Sabbath was made for MAN; not for the Hebrews, but for all men."-E.O. HAVEN, "Pillars of Truth," page 88.
"The reason we observe the first day instead of the seventh is based on no positive command. One will search the Scriptures in vain for authority for changing from the seventh day to the first. The early Christians began to worship on the first day of the week because Jesus rose from the dead on that day. By and by, this day of worship was made also a day of rest, a legal holiday. This took place in the year 321.
"The reason we observe the first day instead of the seventh is based on no positive command. One will search the Scriptures in vain for authority for changing from the seventh day to the first... Our Christian Sabbath, therefore, is not a matter of positive command. It is a gift of the church... "-CLOVIS G. CHAPPELL, "Ten Rules for Living," page 61.
"Sabbath in the Hebrew language signifies rest, and is the seventh day of the week... and it must be confessed that there is no law in the New Testament concerning the first day." Charles Buck, A Theological Dictionary, "Sabbath"
"In the days of very long ago the people of the world began to give names to everything, and they turned the sounds of the lips into words, so that the lips could speak a thought. In those days the people worshipped the sun because many words were made to tell of many thoughts about many things. The people became Christians and were ruled by an emperor whose name was Constantine. This emperor made Sunday the Christian Sabbath, because of the blessing of light and heat which came from the sun. So our Sunday is a sun-day, isn't it?"-Sunday School Advocate, Dec. 31, 1921.
"The moral law contained in the Ten Commandments, and enforced by the prophets, He [Christ] did not take away. It was not the design of His coming to revoke any part of this. This is a law which never can be broken... Every part of this law must remain in force upon all mankind and in all ages; as not depending either on time or place, or any other circumstances liable to change, but on the nature of God and the nature of man, and their unchangeable relation to each other."-JOHN WESLEY, "Sermons on Several Occasions," Vol. I, Sermon XXV.
It is true that there is no positive command for infant baptism. Nor is there any for the keeping of the first day of the week. Many believe that Christ changed the Sabbath. But, from His own words, we see that He came for no such purpose. Those who believe that Jesus changed the Sabbath base it only on a supposition. Amos Binney, Theological Compendium, p. 180-181
"The Sabbath instituted in the beginning, and confirmed again and again by Moses and the prophets, has never been abrogated. A part of the moral law, not a jot or a tittle of its sanctity has been taken away." Bishops Pastoral.

 

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Moody Bible Institute:
"The Sabbath was binding in Eden, and it has been in force ever since. This fourth commandment begins with the word 'remember,' showing that the Sabbath already existed when God wrote the law on the tables of stone at Sinai. How can men claim that this one commandment has been done away with when they will admit that the other nine are still binding?"- D.L. MOODY, "Weighed and Wanting," page 47.
"I honestly believe that this commandment [the fourth, or Sabbath commandment] is just as binding today as it ever was. I have talked with men who have said that it has been abrogated, but they have never been able to point to any place in the Bible where God repealed it. When Christ was on earth, He did nothing to set it aside; He freed it from the traces under which the scribes and Pharisees had put it, and gave it its true place. 'The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath.' It is just as practicable and as necessary for men today as it ever was-in fact, more than ever, because we live in such an intense age.' - Id., page 46.
"This Fourth is not a commandment for one place, or one time, but for all places and times." D.L. Moody, at San Francisco, Jan. 1st, 1881.
Presbyterian:
"The Christian Sabbath (Sunday) is not in the Scriptures, and was not by the primitive church called the Sabbath." Dwight's Theology, Vol. 14, p. 401. "A further argument for the perpetuity of the Sabbath we have in Matthew 24:20, Pray ye that your flight be not in the winter neither on the Sabbath day. But the final destruction of Jerusalem was after the Christian dispensation was fully set up (AD 70). Yet it is plainly implied in these words of the Lord that even then Christians were bound to strict observation of the Sabbath." Works of Jonathon Edwards, (Presby.) Vol. 4, p. 621.
"We must not imagine that the coming of Christ has freed us from the authority of the law; for it is the eternal rule of a devout and holy life, and must therefore be as unchangeable as the justice of God, which it embraced, is constant and uniform." JOHN CALVIN, "Commentary on a Harmony of the Gospels," Vol. 1, page 277.
"God instituted the Sabbath at the creation of man, setting apart the seventh day for the purpose, and imposed its observance as a universal and perpetual moral obligation upon the race." ­American Presbyterian Board of Publication, Tract No. 175.
"The observance of the seventh-day Sabbath did not cease till it was abolished after the [Roman] empire became Christian," ­American Presbyterian Board of Publication, Tract No. 118.
"The moral law doth for ever bind all, as well justified persons as others, to the obedience thereof; and that not only in regard to the matter contained in it, but also in respect of the authority of God the Creator who gave it. Neither doth Christ in the gospel in any way dissolve, but much strengthen this obligation." "Westminster Confession of Faith," Chap. 19, Art. 5.
"The Sabbath is a part of the Decalogue-the Ten Commandments. This alone for ever settles the question as to the perpetuity of the institution ... Until, therefore, it can be shown that the whole moral law has been repealed, the Sabbath will stand...The teaching of Christ confirms the perpetuity of the Sabbath."- T.C. BLAKE, D.D., "Theology Condensed," pages 474, 475.
"Sunday being the first day of which the Gentiles solemnly adored that planet and called it Sunday, partly from its influence on that day especially, and partly in respect to its divine body (as they conceived it) the Christians thought fit to keep the same day and the same name of it, that they might not appear carelessly peevish, and by that means hinder the conversion of the Gentiles, and bring a greater prejudice that might be otherwise taken against the gospel" T.M. Morer, Dialogues on the Lord's Day
"There is no word, no hint in the New Testament about abstaining from work on Sunday. The observance of Ash Wednesday, or Lent, stands exactly on the same footing as the observance of Sunday. Into the rest of Sunday no Divine Law enters." Canon Eyton, in The Ten Commandments.
"Some have tried to build the observance of Sunday upon Apostolic command, whereas the Apostles gave no command on the matter at all.... The truth is, so soon as we appeal to the litera scripta [literal writing] of the Bible, the Sabbatarians have the best of the argument." The Christian at Work, April 19, 1883, and Jan. 1884

 

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Southern Baptist:
'The sacred name of the Seventh day is Sabbath. This fact is too clear to require argument [Exodus 20:10 quoted] 'on this point the plain teaching of the Word has been admitted in all ages' Not once did the disciples apply the Sabbath law to the first day of the week, -- that folly was left for a later age, nor did they pretend that the first day supplanted the seventh. Joseph Hudson Taylor, The Sabbatic Question p. 14-17, 41.

"The first four commandments set forth man's obligations directly toward God.... But when we keep the first four commandments, we are likely to keep the other six. . . . The fourth commandment sets forth God's claim on man's time and thought.... The six days of labour and the rest on the Sabbath are to be maintained as a witness to God's toil and rest in the creation. . . . No one of the ten words is of merely racial significance.... The Sabbath was established originally (long before Moses) in no special connection with the Hebrews, but as an institution for all mankind, in commemoration of God's rest after the six days of creation. It was designed for all the descendants of Adam."-Adult Quarterly, Southern Baptist Convention series, Aug. 15, 1937.

 

[reddogs]

We can find many more, but suffice it to say that Protestant Reformers Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Knox, John Wesley and other reformers were ordained by God to do a great work but, unfortunately, the church which arose after them, having restored lost Bible truths, was not willing to search for other lost truths or to include those found by others into their creeds. They locked down into their own creeds and refused to look any further. John Robinson summed it up in these words, as he charged the Pilgrim Fathers:

If God should reveal anything to you by any other instrument of His, be as ready to receive it as ever you were to receive any truth of my ministry; for I am very confident the Lord hath more truth and light yet, to break forth out of His holy Word. For my part, I cannot sufficiently bewail the condition of the reformed churches, who are come to a period in religion, and will go at present no further than the instrument of their reformation. The Lutherans cannot be drawn to go beyond what Luther says; . . . and the Calvinists, you see, stick fast where they were left by that great man of God, who yet saw not all things. This is a misery much to be lamented; for though they were burning and shining lights in their time, yet they penetrated not into the whole counsel of God, but were they now living, would be as willing to embrace further light as that which they first received.... take heed, I beseech you, what you receive for truth, and compare it and weigh it with other scriptures of truth before you accept it; for it is not possible the Christian would come so lately out of such thick antichristian darkness, and that full perfection of knowledge should break forth at once.[vii]

 

[JLB]

Many Protestant church's in the Christian world reverence Sunday, did God know that this attempt to change His holy Sabbath would occur?
"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. " Daniel 7:25

"Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20:28-30

Yes, long ago God predicted that, from within the church itself, misguided men would arise who would attempt to change His holy law. So the prophecy was true, and it has come to fruition as the Sabbath and those who kept it were swept away, and a substitute put in. We see this in many Protestant church's today, but do they know the truth of the matter...

Did Jesus or His apostles observe the Sabbath?

 

[Josef]

Many Protestant church's in the Christian world reverence Sunday, did God know that this attempt to change His holy Sabbath would occur?
"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. " Daniel 7:25

"Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20:28-30

Yes, long ago God predicted that, from within the church itself, misguided men would arise who would attempt to change His holy law. So the prophecy was true, and it has come to fruition as the Sabbath and those who kept it were swept away, and a substitute put in. We see this in many Protestant church's today, but do they know the truth of the matter...

Hey All,
The misguided men were the apostles reddogs.

Acts 15:23-29 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

On behalf of believers, we revere God; not the day upon which we worship.
The church has not changed the dates.
Jesus rose on a Sunday.
So it makes sense for the church to come together on Sunday.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz

 

[miamited]

Hey reddogs

I think you're holding the wrong subject responsible for this breaking of the law. It isn't the church. It's the individual's within the church. Honoring the Sabbath means that you do no work, nor employ anyone to do work for you, between Friday at sundown/dusk until Saturday at sundown/dusk. Then you can get up and cleanly go to worship with the fellowship of believers, aka church, on Sunday morning. Singing praises and worshiping and studying deeply the word of God all being legal because it is not the Sabbath.

Anyone who wishes to honor the Sabbath can do so in the same way that God instructed Israel to keep the Sabbath in the beginning of the law of Moses. Remember the Sabbath and keep it set apart unto the Lord, your God. On that day you shall do no work. Neither your manservant nor your maidservant nor anyone in your household, for it is a Sabbath unto the Lord. I honestly doubt that God has any problem with one of His children giving two days of the week to honor and praise Him for who He is.

You are honoring God by keeping the Sabbath. You are honoring Jesus by worshiping his resurrection and salvation on Sunday.

God bless,
Ted

 

[miamited]

Hey reddogs

I still say that this issue of our worshiping on Sunday does not defile the Sabbath command of God's law. The command, as found in the law written on the stone tablets, had nothing to do with worship. The law of the Sabbath is just as it is written and it is a day of rest. That's why Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man (to rest) and not man made for the Sabbath (to worship). If man was made for the Sabbath, then yes, God wants that day for us to worship Him. It would be why he created man. Man was made for the Sabbath.

But if the Sabbath was made for man, then its purpose is to benefit man, not God, and He asks us not to work on that day because God knows that when we overwork ourselves we are working for the wrong purpose. God knows that the creature that He created and called man, needs rest time for the body of flesh that God made for the man. If the Sabbath was made for man, then it is for some benefit to us and not some benefit to Him. He just tells us to honor it and keep one day a week to rest from our work. That we are also to allow any alien living within our borders and our workers to have that same day of rest, whether or not they even know God isn't even considered in the issue. So, surely God, in adding that about the foreigner, wasn't telling Israel to drag them all to some worship service on Saturday... was He?

However, let me add that not all Sabbaths are the seventh day rest Sabbath. There are days that God said to set aside also as Sabbaths and with most of them He gave special practices and regulations to govern them. I think we do a great disservice when we think that the word 'Sabbath' is always referring to the same kind of day and its regulations every time it is used.

Sabbath is just a day that is Holy unto God. A day that God wants us to do what He wants us to do on that day to honor Him.

God bless,
Ted

 

[miamited]

Hi reddogs

The word 'Sabbath' just denotes a day that God has set aside as being a day Holy unto Him. We are to do, specifically on that day, certain things that He commands that we do. All of the Holy day celebrations come with their respective Sabbath days and God issued different regulations/commands for what we were to do to Honor Him on those days.

That's where people get mixed up. Because there are Sabbath day regulations for other Sabbath commands that we hold a 'holy convocation', which everyone pretty much agrees would be some kind of meeting. But that's a command for that Sabbath that God has asked us to hold and maintain throughout the generations. The seventh day every week Sabbath that God instituted in His command to us written in stone, only applies to the matter of holding a day of no work and keeping and maintaining that day for all and ever, even unto the gentile generations.

The other Sabbaths were given in God's commands written by men on parchment and they would then have only applied to His people, Israel. We don't celebrate the Feast of Booths. That's a celebration that God instituted in Israel for Israel to honor their freedom from Egypt. But the freedom from Egypt doesn't apply to gentiles. We were never held captive in Egypt. So the Sabbaths attached to that time of celebration and its regulations and commands applies only to the people of the people that God freed from captivity in Egypt. The other Sabbaths are similar. They are attached to a specific celebration that God commanded that His people Israel keep and maintain throughout their generations. But even that, I believe, no longer applies now that Messiah has come. Now that the plan for which God raised up the nation of Israel has been completed. But honestly, that's going to be on the Jews to establish. It doesn't have any bearing on me or anyone in my family or any of my neighbors that I am aware of. I know that the four neighbors surrounding me are not Jewish.

God bless,
Ted

 

[NoahK]

Did Jesus or His apostles observe the Sabbath?

Jesus and His apostles, yes. They were all Jews.

 

[NoahK]

Hey reddogs

I still say that this issue of our worshiping on Sunday does not defile the Sabbath command of God's law. The command, as found in the law written on the stone tablets, had nothing to do with worship. The law of the Sabbath is just as it is written and it is a day of rest. That's why Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man (to rest) and not man made for the Sabbath (to worship). If man was made for the Sabbath, then yes, God wants that day for us to worship Him. It would be why he created man. Man was made for the Sabbath.

But if the Sabbath was made for man, then its purpose is to benefit man, not God, and He asks us not to work on that day because God knows that when we overwork ourselves we are working for the wrong purpose. God knows that the creature that He created and called man, needs rest time for the body of flesh that God made for the man. If the Sabbath was made for man, then it is for some benefit to us and not some benefit to Him. He just tells us to honor it and keep one day a week to rest from our work. That we are also to allow any alien living within our borders and our workers to have that same day of rest, whether or not they even know God isn't even considered in the issue. So, surely God, in adding that about the foreigner, wasn't telling Israel to drag them all to some worship service on Saturday... was He?

However, let me add that not all Sabbaths are the seventh day rest Sabbath. There are days that God said to set aside also as Sabbaths and with most of them He gave special practices and regulations to govern them. I think we do a great disservice when we think that the word 'Sabbath' is always referring to the same kind of day and its regulations every time it is used.

Sabbath is just a day that is Holy unto God. A day that God wants us to do what He wants us to do on that day to honor Him.

God bless,
Ted

Agreed. If you are Jewish you keep Sabbath. If you are Gentile (like me) you keep Sunday.

Clearly in my view God wants us to keep the 7th day holy (separate) from the other days when we work.
I'm pretty sure God doesn't care what day we as humans decide to do that. As long as we do it (keep it holy).

 

[JLB]

Jesus and His apostles, yes. They were all Jews.

For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”
Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. John 5:16-18

 

[rstrats]

Jesus rose on a Sunday.
So it makes sense for the church to come together on Sunday.

Just so it's understood that there is only 1 verse in scripture, as the KJV and similar versions have it, that places the resurrection on the first day of the week - Mark 16:9. And even that verse is believed to be spurious by many Bible translators and commentators. Plus, the meaning of the verse is dependent on where the comma ought to be placed.

 

[rstrats]

Clearly in my view God wants us to keep the 7th day holy (separate) from the other days when we work.
I'm pretty sure God doesn't care what day we as humans decide to do that. As long as we do it (keep it holy).

So, you're saying that any day of the week can be the 7th day of the week and holy depending on the days that we work?

 

[miamited]

So, you're saying that any day of the week can be the 7th day of the week and holy depending on the days that we work?

I would agree with that. For in six days you are to do your work, but on the Sabbath you shall rest. Then Jesus told us that the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath. I take that to mean that the practice of working six days and resting one is why it is a law made for man's benefit as somehow different than all of the other laws. And I believe that whatever 6 then 7th day rest pattern of days of the week one would like to establish as being a valid position. Personally, I believe the entire practice of the Sabbath is to teach us not to work ourselves to death. Take a break from your toils once in a while. It's good for you. Therefore, the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath.

That's how I read it.

 

[Whatever]

Agreed. If you are Jewish you keep Sabbath. If you are Gentile (like me) you keep Sunday.

I bet you don't keep Sunday like the Jews keep their Sabbath (I don't either)

I found this list of The 39 Categories of Sabbath Work Prohibited By Law: Each one is a link that explains each one.
The first one on carrying seems to mean you can't carry anything like your Bible or car keys.
the Prophet Jeremiah specifically warns his people not to carry on the Sabbath. He says (Jeremiah 17:21-22), “Take heed and carry no burdens on the Sabbath … Also do not carry any burden out of your houses on the Sabbath.”

Number 5 about writing -This includes all forms of writing and drawing. Typing, printing, and using a rubber stamp all come under this heading. You can't take notes while the preacher is preaching. You can't let your kids play with coloring books.

Looking at the whole list, I don't see how you could even get out of bed in the morning.

1. Carrying
2. Burning
3. Extinguishing
4. Finishing
5. Writing
6. Erasing
7. Cooking
8. Washing
9. Sewing
10. Tearing
11. Knotting
12. Untying
13. Shaping
14. Plowing
15. Planting
16. Reaping
17. Harvesting
18. Threshing
19. Winnowing
20. Selecting
21. Sifting
22. Grinding
23. Kneading
24. Combing
25. Spinning
26. Dyeing
27. Chain-stitching
28. Warping
29. Weaving
30. Unraveling
31. Building
32. Demolishing
33. Trapping
34. Shearing
35. Slaughtering
36. Skinning
37. Tanning
38. Smoothing
39. Marking​

 

[reddogs]

Did Jesus or His apostles observe the Sabbath?

What does Gods Word say..
Mark 1:21
And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.