lovely
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kingdavid said:the tree of life is Christ, a person and the tree of knowledge of good and evil was a being, the serpent.
the true believer becomes apart of the tree of life as he said he is the vine we are the branches. they were not literal trees, they represented beings. the serpent was the tree of knowledge(carnal-sexual knowledge) of good and evil that eve lay down and touched. she couldn't wait for her husband which is the same reason the church went off philandering with that beast man of revelation-the pope and became a great whore, just like eve was. eve had natural relations with a beast man and the church spiritual committed fornication against Christ with that beast a man-the pope as written in revelations. the revelation at the end is the same at the end as it was in the beginning. alpha has become omega. the church did spiritualy what eve did naturally. eve desecrated her womb and the church desecrated her womb(the mind is the womb of the spirit)
kingdavid,
Thanks for your response, but I would rather not 'add or take away from the Word. I have to reject this teaching as false and divisive. It seems you are mixing a lot of things in here. What you are saying is just not in in the Word, it's that simple. Scripture says that Adam was not deceived, and that through Adam sin entered the world. I am not saying that Eve was not a sinner, she was, but she was not our federaI head...Adam is our Father, and it was through him that sin came into the world. The stuff you are writing is peppered, mixed, and just made up. I encourage you to look to the Word, be a lover of the Truth...it is so much better and freeing than man's wisdom and ideas.
1 Corinthians 15
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Death came by man...In Adam all die.
1 Timothy 2
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Eve was deceived, as the weaker vessel, and fell into transgression...Adam sinned knowingly. Btw, I am in no way lessening Eve's Presumptuous sin here, but we are not of Eve's 'seed'. We are Adam's 'seed'. We will see later how Eve, and Adam, were deceived.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
sin entered by one 'man' (Adam), and death by sin passed to all.
Romans 5
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
You see, by restructuring the fall you will affect other truths as well. Through one man sin, through one man, Jesus Christ, grace. The things you presented affect the Gospel. Sex was not the issue, it was a disobedience to God through the temptation of the lust of the flesh ('good for food'), the lust of the eyes('pleasant to the eyes'), and the pride of life ('desired to make one wise'). Jesus was also tempted in these three ways.
Genesis 3
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Adam and Eve wanted to be like 'gods' knowing good and evil...
Genesis 3
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Later in Revelation we see that the Tree of Life is there, and that it will bear 12 kinds of fruit every month. It says we will be able to partake of it. (Revelation 2:7) I am sure this is not a form of sexual relations at all. The Bible says it's leaves will heal the nations. It will be on both sides of the River of Life that flows from the throne of God and the Lamb. (Revelation 22:2)
Consider this verse that has a warning...
Revelation 22
14 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city.
15 Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.
16 "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star."
17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost.
18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.
Many things are shadows of things to come, or pictures of Christ, but the tree in the beginning was a literal tree. There is nothing in the Word of God to indicate otherwise, and plenty to indicate that it was.
I do not know who Mr. Arnold Murray is that daniel referred to, but if he is teaching these things I would not listen to him. It is clearly not in the Bible at all, and it contradicts what the Bible teaches. I urge you, in love, to stay close to the Word.
lovely