Bible Study Why Was Jesus Considered A Jew?

[HeIsRisen2018]

The thread on church closed in Jerusalem.

Oh okay, that it explains it then lol.

 

[Sparkey]

Technically, the Jews themselves were not called 'Jews' until around 600BC.

In the New Testament, the words, “Hebrews”, “Israelite”, and “Jews” are used interchangeably to describe the descendants of Jacob (Jn. 4:9; 2 Cor. 11:22). And this is the case today – the words “Hebrews”, “Israelite”, and “Jews” are used as synonyms.

It's like StoveBolts has said, where originally, the word, Jew, referred to members of the tribe of Judah, but later it described anyone from the kingdom of Judah. This would include those from the northern kingdom of Israel who moved to Judah, including Mordecai’s ancestors. Also, as those who returned after the exile settled in Judea, they were called Jews regardless of their actual (ancestral) tribe.

In 722 BC, Samaria was conquered by the Assyrians and the Israelites were dispersed into surrounding nations (2 Ki. 17). As they assimilated and now have no national identity, they are known as the “Ten Lost Tribes of Israel”. However, they weren’t all lost because some remained in Israel and some moved to Judah (2 Chron. 15:9; 35:18).

I hope this helps.

Cordially yours in Christ, Jesus
~the guy who calls himself a byrd,
Sparrow

 

[JLB]

I'm just really curious because should He have been a Christian? I mean Jews don't even believe in Jesus and so how could He even be considered one? Although some things in the Bible aren't clear for me, it's pretty obvious that Jesus knew He was the Son of God.

Jews were the first Christians who were responsible for bringing the Gospel to the rest of the world.

Jesus is the Christ.

Those who are believers and followers of Hom are called Christians.


JLB

 

[Corn Pop]

Jews were the first Christians who were responsible for bringing the Gospel to the rest of the world.

Jesus is the Christ.

Those who are believers and followers of Hom are called Christians.


JLB

They just changed the source of Authority.

 

[th1b.taylor]

They just changed the source of Authority.

I'm sorry Dan but how did you arrive at that opinion?In John 1:1-5 we learn that Jesus is, not became the Creator but always has been the YHWH of both Testaments. That makes Him the Authority throughout the scriptures, doesn't it?

 

[nmwings]

I'm just really curious because should He have been a Christian? I mean Jews don't even believe in Jesus and so how could He even be considered one? Although some things in the Bible aren't clear for me, it's pretty obvious that Jesus knew He was the Son of God.

A "Jew" is a slang word for Judah and includes a person who is either a direct descendant of Judah or is living within the borders of the land given to Judah by God as an inheritance. The genealogy of Jesus in Matt 1 goes to great length to prove that Jesus descends from Judah, the son of Jacob, the son of Abraham. The geneology also proves how great God's faithfulness really is, because one of God's promises is that "the sceptor shall never depart from Judah" (see Gen 49.) If Jesus had NOT been born into the tribe of Judah, He would have automatically been disqualified as being the messiah, as taught by Moses and the Prophets.

Jews don't believe Jesus is the Messiah because they have departed from the teaching of Moses and the Prophets. This can easily be seen in the NT as Jesus' #1 complaint with the Pharisees and religious leaders was that they preferred the traditions of men rather than following the Commandments of God given by the hand of Moses and the Prophets. Had they not forsaken Moses, they would've recognized Him instantly. That is how important the OT is.... if one ignores it, they miss the real Jesus and end up following a false god. And when the real One shows up, they won't recognize Him. Just like the Jews did in the NT.

 

[Corn Pop]

I'm sorry Dan but how did you arrive at that opinion?In John 1:1-5 we learn that Jesus is, not became the Creator but always has been the YHWH of both Testaments. That makes Him the Authority throughout the scriptures, doesn't it?

Like Paul who changed the source of Authority. You are right God was always the same authority.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

A "Jew" is a slang word for Judah and includes a person who is either a direct descendant of Judah or is living within the borders of the land given to Judah by God as an inheritance. The genealogy of Jesus in Matt 1 goes to great length to prove that Jesus descends from Judah, the son of Jacob, the son of Abraham. The geneology also proves how great God's faithfulness really is, because one of God's promises is that "the sceptor shall never depart from Judah" (see Gen 49.) If Jesus had NOT been born into the tribe of Judah, He would have automatically been disqualified as being the messiah, as taught by Moses and the Prophets.

Jews don't believe Jesus is the Messiah because they have departed from the teaching of Moses and the Prophets. This can easily be seen in the NT as Jesus' #1 complaint with the Pharisees and religious leaders was that they preferred the traditions of men rather than following the Commandments of God given by the hand of Moses and the Prophets. Had they not forsaken Moses, they would've recognized Him instantly. That is how important the OT is.... if one ignores it, they miss the real Jesus and end up following a false god. And when the real One shows up, they won't recognize Him. Just like the Jews did in the NT.

Thanks, but I'm sorry that I never quite understood that. Messiah is just another word for king right? And Jesus was the king of kings even before He was born into human flesh.

 

[Corn Pop]

Messiah, Christ, and Annointed all mean the same thing as far as I know.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Messiah, Christ, and Annointed all mean the same thing as far as I know.

Exactly so why does it really matter what lineage of family He was born into if He was descended from God?

 

[Corn Pop]

Exactly so why does it really matter what lineage of family He was born into if He was descended from God?

Good question. Maybe someone can answer.

 

[Corn Pop]

If Jesus had no biological Mother and Father then he is not anything or decended from anyone, just God.

Well some might claim Mary was his real mother but he did prove through scripture he doesnt have a biological mother.

 

[reba]

Here is the first prophecy about Jesus ... God is telling the serpent he will get his
Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.



https://www.jesusfilm.org/blog-and-stories/old-testament-prophecies.html?relatedposts_start=2 this says it better then i can

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

If Jesus had no biological Mother and Father then he is not anything or decended from anyone, just God.

Well some might claim Mary was his real mother but he did prove through scripture he doesnt have a mother as called believers his mother over Mary.

And blessed are the breasts that nursed you, no rather blessed are they who do the will of my father.

I'm sorry but Mary was definitely Jesus' mother. He loved her, treated her, and honored her like a mother.

 

[Corn Pop]

I'm sorry but Mary was definitely Jesus' mother. He loved her, treated her, and honored her like a mother.

I'm talking biological, of course he loved Mary and Jospeh as family, but I think she was the same like Jospeh, both adopted parents. Mary birthed him.

I could be wrong. I need more study.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

I'm talking biological, of course he loved Mary and Jospeh, but I think she was the same like Jospeh, both adopted parents.

I'm sorry but you worded that wrong then. I have an adopted mother and I still think of her as my real mother because she is the only mother I have ever known.