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SputnikBoy

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Have any of you ever wondered why anyone should be 'punished' - whether by eternal torment or annihilation - simply for not having accepted Jesus Christ? I have and I still do. Not accepting Jesus Christ hardly qualifies as a 'crime' in my book. So, while neither of the alternative 'penalties' makes too much sense to me, there DO appear to be only two positions on this issue so I (somewhat begrudgingly) opt for the latter.

Why is 'unbelief' considered to be a 'sin' as such and why is it deemed as being worthy of such a severe penalty ...?
 
SputnikBoy said:
Have any of you ever wondered why anyone should be 'punished' - whether by eternal torment or annihilation - simply for not having accepted Jesus Christ? I have and I still do. Not accepting Jesus Christ hardly qualifies as a 'crime' in my book. So, while neither of the alternative 'penalties' makes too much sense to me, there DO appear to be only two positions on this issue so I (somewhat begrudgingly) opt for the latter.

Why is 'unbelief' considered to be a 'sin' as such and why is it deemed as being worthy of such a severe penalty ...?
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This statement of yours 100% proves you are a child of Satan because no child of God would say this. I do pray that you will come to realize that Jesus is everything and that trully it is a crime with a death sentece that never runs out with no chance of parole for those who reject Christ.

Shame on you for preaching this false Gospel you cult
 
oscar3 said:
This statement of yours 100% proves you are a child of Satan because no child of God would say this. I do pray that you will come to realize that Jesus is everything and that trully it is a crime with a death sentece that never runs out with no chance of parole for those who reject Christ.

Shame on you for preaching this false Gospel you cult
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Oscar, buddy pal ...you're an idiot!

I know the mod will probably remove this but perhaps it will stay for a little while at least.

Either shut up or answer the question!!!
 
oscar3 said:
This statement of yours 100% proves you are a child of Satan because no child of God would say this. I do pray that you will come to realize that Jesus is everything and that trully it is a crime with a death sentece that never runs out with no chance of parole for those who reject Christ.

Shame on you for preaching this false Gospel you cult
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Death sentence huh. Isn't that what annihilation is?
 
mutzrein said:
Good question. May I ask though why you see annihilation as a punishment?
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It's my understanding, mutz, that 'the lost' will be raised from their graves after the 1000 years to face judgment ...the penalty of which will be final and utter destruction. NO ONE will receive eternal life or eternal death without full knowledge that it was THEY who chose either of the two options available to them. This is where 'justice' comes into the equasion. It's also my understanding that even the lost will acknowledge that God is a worthy and a just God. That's just before God 'zaps' them into eternity! ?????

So, yes ...I DO see annihilation as a punishment.

All of this doesn't take away from my original question. Just as long as we can keep Oscar at bay we might be able to move on. :roll:
 
SputnikBoy said:
Have any of you ever wondered why anyone should be 'punished' - whether by eternal torment or annihilation - simply for not having accepted Jesus Christ? I have and I still do. Not accepting Jesus Christ hardly qualifies as a 'crime' in my book. So, while neither of the alternative 'penalties' makes too much sense to me, there DO appear to be only two positions on this issue so I (somewhat begrudgingly) opt for the latter.

Why is 'unbelief' considered to be a 'sin' as such and why is it deemed as being worthy of such a severe penalty ...?
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Heres where you'll find peace...
Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
I am so content to do that.
 
Spasnikboy
Your the one who says and I quote''Not accepting Jesus Christ hardly qualifies as a 'crime' in my book.''And I am the Idiot :-D LOL


42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. 46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47 He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God."
 
mutzrein said:
Death sentence huh. Isn't that what annihilation is?
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nO THIS is not annihalation because there is no chance of parole. :-D
 
destiny said:
Heres where you'll find peace...
Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
I am so content to do that.
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That's nice, destiny, but some of us were also given a God-given questioning spirit. I'm REALLY serious about my OP, by the way. There is no 'hidden agenda' behind the question.
 
SputnikBoy, that's actually enough to give you a warning, please read your PM.. Infact you will receive two warnings and they will be told to you in the PM..

Oscar, Not that I totally agree how you handled this, I will consult with the Admins and see how they want to handle this..
 
SputnikBoy said:
That's nice, destiny, but some of us were also given a God-given questioning spirit. I'm REALLY serious about my OP, by the way. There is no 'hidden agenda' behind the question.
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Fair enough ...i'll leave it with y'all. I really am content with not trying to figure out that sort of thing. It would rob me of my peace and simplicity in Christ.
 
SputnikBoy said:
That's nice, destiny, but some of us were also given a God-given questioning spirit. I'm REALLY serious about my OP, by the way. There is no 'hidden agenda' behind the question.
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I hate to break it to you but this spirit you refer to is not from God, its demonic
 
SputnikBoy said:
That's nice, destiny, but some of us were also given a God-given questioning spirit. I'm REALLY serious about my OP, by the way. There is no 'hidden agenda' behind the question.
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Let us move on, Oscar. Do you have anything worthwhile to contribute?
 
Atonement said:
Oscar, Not that I totally agree how you handled this, I will consult with the Admins and see how they want to handle this..
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Atone
While my approach lacks finesse I don't see that I did anything against the scriptures. If I did, let me know what it is and I will repent.
 
Atonement said:
SputnikBoy, that's actually enough to give you a warning, please read your PM.. Infact you will receive two warnings and they will be told to you in the PM..

Oscar, Not that I totally agree how you handled this, I will consult with the Admins and see how they want to handle this..
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You 'kid-glove' Oscar for his immature but poison comments but don't allow me to respond the way I do ...which is basically 'tongue-in-cheek anyway.

Oscar is a menace ...EVERYONE can see this ...!
 
oscar3 said:
Atone
While my approach lacks finesse I don't see that I did anything against the scriptures. If I did, let me know what it is and I will repent.
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You might pull that one off with Atonement, Oscar, but it won't wash with me. You're a menace. I hate to give you 'credit' for anything but you have completely disrupted this thread.
 
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