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Will a rapture happen?
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Judy
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I believe that is what this verse 17 is talking about.
1 Thess. 4:16. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
17. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
18. Therefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thess. 4:16. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
17. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
18. Therefore comfort one another with these words.
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Lupine
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I don't know. I would like to learn more about that stuff.
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Pearly Gator
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Yep. It's gonna happen.
Matthew 24:27-44, "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."
Matthew 24:27-44, "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."
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evanman
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This use of the word "Rapture" is not found in the Bible.
The bible speaks of a "Catching Up"!
The bible speaks of a "Catching Up"!
evanman said:
har-pad'-zo
From a derivative of G138; to seize (in various applications): - catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force). Strong
Can the word rapture be used to define this 'pulling away?' Yes it can.
Rapture: The state of being transported by a lofty emotion; ecstasy. An expression of ecstatic feeling. The transporting of a person from one place to another, especially to heaven.
Webster, American Heritage Dictionary
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evanman
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I believe that "Rapture" can be used this way, according to Webster, however its main usage has to do with mystical experiences, as Webster does explain.
guess that's why the translators do not use the word "Rapture".
However, I thank you for your imput.
guess that's why the translators do not use the word "Rapture".
However, I thank you for your imput.
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Grace Alone
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Many scholars say that the passage Pearly Gate quoted from Mathew is in regards to the destruction of the temple in the first century. Of course, the overwhelming majority believe it speaks of a still-future event.
I'm not sure what I believe as I have not done in depth study on the end times, but I tend to lean post-trib. Hope I'm wrong though!
I'm not sure what I believe as I have not done in depth study on the end times, but I tend to lean post-trib. Hope I'm wrong though!
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Grace Alone
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Thanks for the suggestion Scofield. I have begun to do some reading on pre-wrath this morning and from what I've read so far, I'm very interested. There is just no way that I can agree with the pre-trib point of view, and from what I've read before today, post-trib seemed to make the most sense to me. I'm glad to have another theory to look at.
What are the differences between pre-wrath and mid-trib?
Maybe I should start a new topic, so I don't take this one way off course! After I do some more reading and have a better grasp on this, I'll post my thoughts on a new thread.
GA
What are the differences between pre-wrath and mid-trib?
Maybe I should start a new topic, so I don't take this one way off course! After I do some more reading and have a better grasp on this, I'll post my thoughts on a new thread.
GA
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Pearly Gator
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Grace Alone said:
It would be interesting to see a poll about PRE, DURING and POST Trib rapture, too.
My pastor is a PAN- Milleniumist. (SP?) He thinks, "It will all pan out."
PG
Someone told me the rapture will come a week from Tuesday.
But I couldn't find that in the Bible.
Be a good Berean and study your Bible.
But I couldn't find that in the Bible.
Be a good Berean and study your Bible.
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Doesn't sound like a pretrib rapture to me. Nowhere in scripture does it teach a pretrib rapture, but the money bandwagon preachers love to add to and take away from scripture to prove their senseless point of view.
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Doesn't sound like a pretrib rapture to me. Nowhere in scripture does it teach a pretrib rapture, but the money bandwagon preachers love to add to and take away from scripture to prove their senseless point of view.
Wow, you dug deep to revive this old thread.
Yes the rapture will happen just as the ressurection will happen.
They both occur at the coming of the Lord.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:15
JLB