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Will Eating Meat Kill You ?

Lewis

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]There is no longer any doubt about the fact that eating meat is bad for your health.

The list of diseases known to be associated with meat, which are commoner among meat eaters, looks like the index of a medical textbook.

Anaemia, appendicitis, arthritis, breast cancer, cancer of the colon, cancer of the prostate, constipation, diabetes, gall stones, gout, high blood pressure, indigestion, obesity, piles, strokes and varicose veins are just some of the well known disorders which are more likely to affect meat eaters than vegetarians.

Avoiding meat is one of the best and simplest ways to cut down your fat consumption.

Those who still eat beef are, in my view, foolishly exposing themselves to the risk of contracting the horrifying human version of Mad Cow Disease.

Add to those hazards the fact that if you eat meat you may be consuming hormones, drugs and other chemicals that have been fed to the animals before they were killed and you can see the extent of the danger. No one knows precisely what effect eating the hormones in meat is likely to have on your health. But the risk is there and I think it's a big one. Some farmers use tranquillisers to keep animals calm. Others routinely use antibiotics so that their animals do not develop infections. When you eat meat you are, inevitably, eating those drugs. In America, over half of all antibiotics are fed to animals and I don't think it is any coincidence that the percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin went up from 13% in 1960 to 91% in 1988.

The healthiness of a vegetarian diet is perhaps shown most dramatically by the fact that lifelong vegetarians visit hospitals 22% less often than meat eaters - and for shorter stays! Vegetarians tend to be fitter than meat eaters - as well as healthier - and many of the world's most successful athletes (particularly those who specialise in endurance events) follow a strictly vegetarian diet.

It is the fat in meat that does most harm - and which makes meat eating an even bigger health hazard than smoking - but don't think you can avoid the dangers simply by avoiding red meat because you cannot. If you want to eat a truly healthy diet then you must give up eating meat completely.

There are, of course, all sorts of old-fashioned myths about eating meat.

It used to be claimed that people who didn't eat meat would be short of protein.

But that is now known to be absolute nonsense.

And it is equally untrue that if you don't eat meat your diet will be deficient in essential vitamins or minerals.

Meat contains absolutely nothing - no protein, vitamins or minerals - that your body cannot obtain perfectly happily from a vegetarian diet.

Becoming healthier isn't the only reason for turning green.

Many of those who stop eating meat do so for moral and ethical reasons as much as for personal gain.

Every minute of every working day thousands of animals are killed in slaughterhouses. Many animals are bled to death. Pain and misery are commonplace - for animals suffer from pain and fear just as much as you do.

In an average lifetime the average meat eater will consume 36 pigs, 36 sheep and 750 chickens and turkeys. More and more people are deciding that they just don't want that much carnage on their consciences. It is never too late to stop eating meat.

In addition, more and more people are becoming aware of the fact that hunger around the world could be eradicated if rich westerners stopped eating meat.

Every year over 400 million tons of grain are fed to livestock - so that the world's rich can eat meat.

At the same time, 500 million people in poor countries are starving to death.

Many of those who toy with the idea of turning vegetarian (because they want to be healthier, because they want to stop world starvation or because they can no longer bear the thought of encouraging such a barbaric trade as the breeding and killing of animals for food) worry about what they are going to eat.

Such worries are quite unnecessary.

There are not only many different fruits and vegetables available these days but, if you miss the texture of meat, you can buy vegetarian sausages, hamburgers and pies. Stews and curries can be made with soya and you can buy tofu cheese too.

To keep healthy eat raw foods whenever you can (because vitamins are easily destroyed by cooking) and use as little water as possible when boiling vegetables in order to avoid losing water soluble vitamins B and C. Steam or stir fry vegetables if you can instead of boiling them.

Remember that keeping food hot - or reheating it - can destroy vitamins, try to eat fruit and vegetables in their skins (because vitamins are often stored just below the skin) and be imaginative when shopping! You can get the iron, calcium, zinc and other essential minerals that your body needs by eating dark green, leafy vegetables, nuts, pulses, sunflower seeds and dried fruits.

There are heaps of books available about food. My own book Food for Thought should tell you everything you need to know and is available through the shop on this website. Also, there are recipes for vegetarian and vegan meals on this website.
Eating meat is bad for you


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While I have some sympathies with your post, I think of the millions and millions who have blood sugar problems and are already severely constrained in terms of diet. Yes, you can get protein without meat, but I believe its a fair bit of work. For some people, lean meat is a simple and effective source of protein in a diet that is otherwise severely constrained (e.g. very low carbohydrate)

But, and let me be clear about this, I certainly believe that most N. Americans eat way too much meat and I agree that we should cut back.
 
well then these guys know better then what God says is good.

its should be done in balence.

if all men stopped using livestock, what would cull them?

think about it.
 
Drew I am just a reporter, I report what is out there:thumbsup
As per my post, I am generally in agreement with the OP. Some people, though, are in a bit of a bind. Needing to severely restrict carbohydrates, they need to rely on protein and fat (to a larger extent) as sources of food energy. For those people, meat is very convenient.

But I am entirely in agreement that in general we consume way too much meat.
 
You know you can be vegetarian and eat nothing but cupcakes for the whole of your life ;)
 
Does Meat Cause Colon Cancer?


The story on meat and colon cancer can seem very confusing. One minute you hear a news report saying that meat causes colon cancer, the next you may hear that meat is fine. But if we consider the dozens of studies on this topic, a "big picture" emerges: Eating meat is linked with colon cancer risk, but what kind, how much, and how the meat is prepared are important parts of the story.
Type of Meat and Colon Cancer Risk

Different types of meat appear to have different effects on the colon. Some types of meat cause more damage, damage that can lead to cancer development, to the cells in the colon than other types of meat. And when it comes colon cancer risk, fresh is best.
This means that in terms of colon cancer risk, freshly prepared chicken, other poultry, fish, lean beef, and pork are "safer" than processed meats. Processed means smoked, cured, and salted meats, such as hot dogs, sausages, salami, bologna, bratwurst, bacon, salt pork, cold cuts and lunch meat, ham, pastrami, pepperoni, smoked fish, corned beef, and jerky. It turns out that when processed, cancer-causing (carcinogenic) chemicals are created in meat. These chemicals, when eaten, increase colon cancer risk.
Meat Preparation, Cooking and Colon Cancer Risk

How meat is prepared and cooked also has an impact on how much the meat increases colon cancer risk. The higher the temperature at which the meat is cooked, and the more well-done the meat is, the more likely it is to increase colon cancer risk.
Just as with processing of meat, cooking meat at high temperatures until very well-done creates carcinogens (cancer-causing compounds). More well-done meat contains higher levels of carcinogens, called heterocyclic aromatic amines (HAAs) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) than less well-done meat.
HAAs and PAHs are formed when the protein and/or fat in the meat gets very hot. Think of the black, char-grilled exterior that a piece of grilled meat can have. This is a source of carcinogens, the chemicals that can increase colon cancer risk.
How Much Meat is Too Much?

To put the "how much" question about meat and colon cancer risk into perspective, keep in mind:

  • When studying diet and colon cancer, health experts have found that people regularly eating the most red meat have up to 50% greater colon cancer risk compared with people eating the least red meat.
  • Eating more than 3-5 ounces of meat per day significantly increases the risk of death from any cause, including death due to colon cancer, other cancers, and heart disease.
  • Eating more than an ounce and a half of processed meat per day, such as hot dogs and lunch meat, significantly increases the risk of death due to colon cancer, other cancers, and heart disease.
  • A 3-ounce serving of meat is about the size of a deck of cards. Simply eating a roast beef sandwich for lunch and a burger or hot dog for dinner will put you over the daily limit for meat intake that research tells us will increase your risk of colon cancer, other cancers, heart disease, and death.
Meat in Moderation and Cooked Properly

If you enjoy meat, but want to keep your risk for colon cancer in check:

  • Focus on Quality, Not Quantity. You don't need to skip meat altogether, as long as the rest of your diet is based around healthy, cancer-fighting foods such as vegetables, fruit, whole grains, legumes (beans and peas), nuts, and seeds. Enjoy good-quality, fresh meat in 3-ounce servings, 3-4 times per week.
  • Cook Slow & Low. Even if two pieces of meat are cooked to the same "level of done-ness", the one that was cooked at a lower temperature for longer will contain fewer carcinogenic (cancer-causing) compounds than meat that is cooked very hot and fast.
  • Raise the Flavor with Spices and Herbs. Marinade your meat in mixtures that contain spices and herbs such as rosemary, thyme, oregano, basil, fennel, or anything you enjoy. Believe it or not, marinating meat in spice and herb mixtures actually reduces the amount of carcinogens that are formed during cooking!
  • Use the Right Tools. When grilling, use tongs to flip the meat rather than a fork. Piercing the meat causes fat and juices to drip onto the coals. This, in turn, causes the formation of carcinogens that coat the meat when smoke rises back up from the grill.
  • Cook with Plants. You can heat up vegetables, fruit, or any other plant-based food as hot as you want. This does not create the hazardous compounds that are formed when meat is cooked. Try kabobs with plenty of vegetables on them.
As a final note, if you're looking for another reason to improve your meaty diet, consider the environment. By eating less meat, you'll improve the health of the planet too!


Meat and Colon Cancer - Does Meat Cause Colon Cancer
 
Right now I'm eating some tasty pork chops, green beans with bacon and onion, and augratin potatoes! Yum!!!
 
Why not just check out who the longest living denomination of earth are today, and check their 'eating' teachings??? And sure, some of the preflood ones lived nearly 1000 years in age, but still did not 'yield' to the Striving of the Holy Ghost & Noah's 120 year preaching.

Yet, taking good care of your car makes sense, huh??

--Elijah
 
Does Meat Cause Colon Cancer?


The story on meat and colon cancer can seem very confusing. One minute you hear a news report saying that meat causes colon cancer, the next you may hear that meat is fine. But if we consider the dozens of studies on this topic, a "big picture" emerges: Eating meat is linked with colon cancer risk, but what kind, how much, and how the meat is prepared are important parts of the story.
Type of Meat and Colon Cancer Risk

Different types of meat appear to have different effects on the colon. Some types of meat cause more damage, damage that can lead to cancer development, to the cells in the colon than other types of meat. And when it comes colon cancer risk, fresh is best.
This means that in terms of colon cancer risk, freshly prepared chicken, other poultry, fish, lean beef, and pork are "safer" than processed meats. Processed means smoked, cured, and salted meats, such as hot dogs, sausages, salami, bologna, bratwurst, bacon, salt pork, cold cuts and lunch meat, ham, pastrami, pepperoni, smoked fish, corned beef, and jerky. It turns out that when processed, cancer-causing (carcinogenic) chemicals are created in meat. These chemicals, when eaten, increase colon cancer risk.
Meat Preparation, Cooking and Colon Cancer Risk

How meat is prepared and cooked also has an impact on how much the meat increases colon cancer risk. The higher the temperature at which the meat is cooked, and the more well-done the meat is, the more likely it is to increase colon cancer risk.
Just as with processing of meat, cooking meat at high temperatures until very well-done creates carcinogens (cancer-causing compounds). More well-done meat contains higher levels of carcinogens, called heterocyclic aromatic amines (HAAs) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) than less well-done meat.
HAAs and PAHs are formed when the protein and/or fat in the meat gets very hot. Think of the black, char-grilled exterior that a piece of grilled meat can have. This is a source of carcinogens, the chemicals that can increase colon cancer risk.
How Much Meat is Too Much?

To put the "how much" question about meat and colon cancer risk into perspective, keep in mind:

  • When studying diet and colon cancer, health experts have found that people regularly eating the most red meat have up to 50% greater colon cancer risk compared with people eating the least red meat.
  • Eating more than 3-5 ounces of meat per day significantly increases the risk of death from any cause, including death due to colon cancer, other cancers, and heart disease.
  • Eating more than an ounce and a half of processed meat per day, such as hot dogs and lunch meat, significantly increases the risk of death due to colon cancer, other cancers, and heart disease.
  • A 3-ounce serving of meat is about the size of a deck of cards. Simply eating a roast beef sandwich for lunch and a burger or hot dog for dinner will put you over the daily limit for meat intake that research tells us will increase your risk of colon cancer, other cancers, heart disease, and death.
Meat in Moderation and Cooked Properly

If you enjoy meat, but want to keep your risk for colon cancer in check:

  • Focus on Quality, Not Quantity. You don't need to skip meat altogether, as long as the rest of your diet is based around healthy, cancer-fighting foods such as vegetables, fruit, whole grains, legumes (beans and peas), nuts, and seeds. Enjoy good-quality, fresh meat in 3-ounce servings, 3-4 times per week.
  • Cook Slow & Low. Even if two pieces of meat are cooked to the same "level of done-ness", the one that was cooked at a lower temperature for longer will contain fewer carcinogenic (cancer-causing) compounds than meat that is cooked very hot and fast.
  • Raise the Flavor with Spices and Herbs. Marinade your meat in mixtures that contain spices and herbs such as rosemary, thyme, oregano, basil, fennel, or anything you enjoy. Believe it or not, marinating meat in spice and herb mixtures actually reduces the amount of carcinogens that are formed during cooking!
  • Use the Right Tools. When grilling, use tongs to flip the meat rather than a fork. Piercing the meat causes fat and juices to drip onto the coals. This, in turn, causes the formation of carcinogens that coat the meat when smoke rises back up from the grill.
  • Cook with Plants. You can heat up vegetables, fruit, or any other plant-based food as hot as you want. This does not create the hazardous compounds that are formed when meat is cooked. Try kabobs with plenty of vegetables on them.
As a final note, if you're looking for another reason to improve your meaty diet, consider the environment. By eating less meat, you'll improve the health of the planet too!


Meat and Colon Cancer - Does Meat Cause Colon Cancer

Thanks for the info!
 
I'd rather eat meat and die early than sip on wheat grass juice and live to be 200!!
I will continue to eat meat and be happy. I don't overdo it either though. I'm not a meatatarian. ;)
 
I try not to eat it all the time maybe 2 to 3 times a month sometimes I will eat pork bacon in the morning, but that is only every so many months. Now when I cook these ribs I might eat them for 2 days at dinner time. And that is it. I will eat pork chops sometimes 3 time a month but no more than that. I love meat, but I do know that to much of it will kill you.
 
It's hard to go wrong when you do things in moderation. Like eating, drinking, exercising, etc.. Learning better cooking techniques also help. I feel that eating microwave foods all the time is just as bad as over cooking food on the stove or grill.
 
Certain meats in the bible are Kosher, but notice it's important as to how to prepare them as well as what they are. I think sinking your teeth into a juicy steak is healthy, but notice I said steak. Not hormones, antibiotics, or other additives. Supposedly the FDA is now investigating/limiting this but it's probably more political hype to justify their existence. The FDA never cared for anyone's health. Otherwise, meat is a good source of iron and B12, the latter is important for heart protection. Saturated fats are not as bad as they say, although I'd stay leaner as suggested in Kosher eating, but not totally away from them. You need these to absorb fat soluble vitamins which is why people who avoided "bad" fat by eating the substitute olestra instead ended up severely vitamin A deficient.
 
Kosher meats and poultry are the best for you. My grand mom, my mothers mom would not eat meat that was not kosher period, she was a Hebrew for one thing, but being one, made her eat more healthy.
 
does anyone know the difference between a real kosher meat one the same thing bought at the local market?

its a stupid question but i bet some dont know.
 
Does the meat have to be grown kosher butchered kosher and blessed?


Pleanty of OT bible in my head so i sorta knew what kosher was/is but i had o no idea it coudl go so far...
I worked for a Jewish lady she had only 1 dish washer but I learned about seperate plates double stuff in the cupboards. Two drawers of silver ware..


Grew up poor learned to cook some mean sausage gravy and biscuits.... They sold well in my little cafe....


Doing house work for the lady, Ester time rolled around She asked a few questions i was waiting She ask if i believed the Jews had killed Jesus. Knowning she wasn't asking a deep theological question i gave a stright simple answer. I told her my sins and the sin in the world killed Him.
 
Does the meat have to be grown kosher butchered kosher and blessed?


Pleanty of OT bible in my head so i sorta knew what kosher was/is but i had o no idea it coudl go so far...
I worked for a Jewish lady she had only 1 dish washer but I learned about seperate plates double stuff in the cupboards. Two drawers of silver ware..





Doing house work for the lady, Ester time rolled around She asked a few questions i was waiting She ask if i believed the Jews had killed Jesus. Knowning she wasn't asking a deep theological question i gave a stright simple answer. I told her my sins and the sin in the world killed Him.

i believe so. to be used by the temple in the passover most definitely.
 
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