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Will people always hate Bush?

jasoncran said:
Dave Slayer said:
RancidInsanity said:
Barack is doing the best he can with the mes he inherited from Bush.

And Bush did the best job he could with the mess he inherited from Clinton. :P

Come on people, why all the hate? Would Jesus rather have us talk bad about people or would He rather have us pray for people? I wouldn't be surprised if 20 years from now, people are still bashing Bush. I am sure some would say it was Bush's fault that the Titanic sank or if someone gets a flat tire. Grow up kids and leave the past where it is. If you don't like someone, PRAY for them! :)

:amen

learning to do that.

As long as you're learning, that is a good thing! :)
 
Again, it's too bad people listen to the lies of the liberal media instead of thinking for themselves.

Think he's doing better with abortion?

Spending?

National security?

Upholding the constitution?
 
GojuBrian said:
Again, it's too bad people listen to the lies of the liberal media instead of thinking for themselves.

Think he's doing better with abortion?

Spending?

National security?

Upholding the constitution?

Obama said during the election that he would withdrawl all troops in Iraq within the first 60 days? Did he do that? No. He now says troops will remain in Iraq until 2012 I think.

As far as abortion, he is pro choice.

Spending? Hasn't he spent more than Bush allready?
 
Pro choice = pro abortion...look at Kathleen Sebilius for petes sake.

Obama is drip feeding the U.S. a far left agenda.
 
GojuBrian said:
Lewis W said:
I don't I voted for him twice, being black it was not popular, but I did not care. I turned Democrat again for Barack, after being Republican since 1982. But I am still a conservative. Ijust think that Barack, can do a better job on many things.

Do you still think so based on what he's done so far?
Well he has not been in long enough yet, but the abortion issue, raised my eye brow.
Otherwise I think he is doing good, got a big problem with the abortion issue though.
But he is a natural leader though.
 
Lewis W said:
GojuBrian said:
[quote="Lewis W":18dr8zl0]I don't I voted for him twice, being black it was not popular, but I did not care. I turned Democrat again for Barack, after being Republican since 1982. But I am still a conservative. Ijust think that Barack, can do a better job on many things.

Do you still think so based on what he's done so far?
Well he has not been in long enough yet, but the abortion issue, raised my eye brow.
Otherwise I think he is doing good, got a big problem with the abortion issue though.
But he is a natural leader though.
[/quote:18dr8zl0]

He also likes to spend a lot. I think Obama's budget estimate is allready within the trillions. That is more than Bush's spending bill in his entire 8 years in office! :P
 
Lewis W said:
He has more compassion fo the people, I'll tell you that.

Except for unborn infants. :gah

But that is just your opinion. I thought Bush had plenty of compassion. But that is only my opinion. My opinion isn't anymore right than yours and your opinion isn't anymore right than mine. :D
 
Talking about hate -

Read Brian's standard right wing talking points....

The one's that have been resulting in murder by the wing-nuts.

Bad company corrupts good morals - not sure why anyone is defending violence, murder and oppression - but the Pharisees of today - the Evangelical/Papist religious right - thrives on it - same results.

:verysad

Best,
Anth
 
Let's just say people voted Obama into office because he promised to get the economy on the right track. He needs to get over his blame campaign and take ownership of the problem he promised to fix instead of covering himself in the event he fails to do so.
He fails he'll blame it on Bush.
He succeeds he'll blame it on Obama.

He's the president of the United States. He inherited leadership of the most powerful nation on Earth. He inherited the responsibility of upholding the Constitution and he inherited the trust of the people of America.

He needs to quit whining and get on with the duties of the office he fought so hard to attain.
 
Anth said:
And Bush did the best job he could with the mess he inherited from Clinton

...that must be the budget surplus you are talking about....

Best,

Anth

The budget surplus that came up short towards the end of his presidency. The United States was not out of debt at that time when we had the "surplus". There was a surplus for a time because Clinton taxed the crap out of people. In the end, it hurt the economy. There was a recession that Bush inherited from Clinton. Not saying it was all Clinton's fault, and the current situation isn't totally Bush's fault either. You cannot simply blame one person for this. If you think you can do better, start campaigning for the 2012 election and I will vote for you and give you a try. :yes
 
Anth said:
Talking about hate -

Read Brian's standard right wing talking points....

The one's that have been resulting in murder by the wing-nuts.

Bad company corrupts good morals - not sure why anyone is defending violence, murder and oppression - but the Pharisees of today - the Evangelical/Papist religious right - thrives on it - same results.

:verysad

Best,
Anth


There ya go! Blame people speaking for the truth for what whacko's do. Is it then Obama's fault for the killing of the soldier at L.R.? He caters to muslims afterall.
Anyone who does something under the influence is your fault?
Gimme a break....
 
I have to admit, I literally laugh out loud when I see people blaming Bush for the financial woes we're in. I've seen all the arguments from the "he left us in a recession" all the way to the "Clinton had a surplus" argument we've seen right in this thread.

Let's talk about that Clinton surplus. For starters, as it was pointed out, the budget surplus does not equate to being rid of the national debt. Yes, there was a slight reduction in the national debt during Clinton's years, but that's basically because after the Gulf War, he didn't do anything. 1995-2001 were some of the least eventful years in American history. Clinton's impeachment and the whole Lewinsky thing in general were about the biggest stories coming out of Washington. And when Bush took over in '01, things were looking to get even better. The national debt was dropping like a rock, and Bush even sent us all those checks for free money on top of that. We had more cash than we knew what to do with. Then 9/11 hit us.

And to give the Bush administration some credit, we did pretty good, despite the attacks. the spike in debt due to 9/11 and the war on terror was actually less steep than the spike created when we entered the Gulf War in '91, and we managed to even keep the debt from growing for several years right up to the end, when what I think of as 70 years of mistakes caught up to us.

People like to blame the recession on Bush. What they don't realize (aside from the fact that there have been 12 recessions since the Great depression, 7 of which have been as bad or worse than the current one), is that this recession is the direct result of a presidential administration but not the one they think, or the one you think I'm thinking of. It actually all stems back to FDR's New Deal. When FDR set up all these policies that he hoped would end the depression, he started us on a roller coaster that had to end sometime. Minimum wage, social security, welfare, they all sound like great ideas, but even back then the president knew they weren't sustainable. A bunch of these programs were actually supposed to be temporary because of that very reason, but the FDR made the mistake of assuming you can give a benefit to somebody and then expect them to be responsible enough to give it back on their own. As a result, over time we've been building and releasing steam, which eventually had to pop. With the much-needed spending during the Regan bush years, and the events of 9/11, the stage was set for a big burst. Then to make things worse, house flippers were buying houses and miraculously doubling their values overnight, and banks were not only unwisely agreeing to give loans for these artificially inflated house prices out to people with horrid credit, but they were also putting much of their companies behind these ridiculous loans. It was a perfect storm.

Economically speaking, I think Bush actually did better than people give him credit for. 9/11 and the housing burst were the two main factors that led us to where we sit, and they were enhanced by the underlying government problems stemming from outdated New Deal politics. None of it was anything that could have been avoided, no matter who was running the country. Bush just happened to be the guy in the big Chair as the world came tumbling down.

To answer the OP, I think there are two people in this world. The people who blame everything negative in the last decade on bush, and the intelligent, mature adults. Eventually people are bound to grow up, thus leaving the first group and entering the second :D Bush wasn't the greatest president, and he did make some gaffs, but he's not the loser liberalism is painting him as.
 
i do not and probably never will understand the hate for bush. he was conservative christian.....is that where the hate comes from? in todays weird society, that seemed to be the biggest problem. i liked him though, and i wish he was still president, not this liberal facsit muslim/occult weirdo we have now.
 
Politics never get anything but ugly.

In terms of Bush...yes, people will probably always hate him for this or that reason. All presidents have supporters as well as opposition.

Personally not fond of Obama. Too many children's blood on his hands.

No one is perfect yes, so will not pass judgement on the man. That is for God to do.
 
I never hated the man. I disagreed with his approach on a lot of fronts but never disliked him as a person. I have a deep respect for the man based on his service for his country and in also doing what he felt was right for the country regardless of how history or his constituents view that.
 
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