Will we, after death and in heaven, know people we met on earth? Isaiah 65:17

[Alfred Persson]

Isaiah 65:17 [AMP] “Behold, I am creating new heavens and a new earth; And the former things [of life] will not be remembered or come to mind.
Given the verse above do you belief either:
1) We will not know, for example, our mother, father, siblings in heaven for "former things will not be remember or come to mind"

or

2) We will know people from our experience on earth, for example, our mother, father, siblings in heaven. Please give verses to substantiate this opinion (no parables).
Yes, I know of the transfiguration and Peter and Paul meet Moses and Elijah .... but their knowledge of these two people could not originate from earthly experience
and besides, Peter and Paul were not in the "new heaven".


If you select #1 then would it not also stand to reason we would not know anything about ourselves?

#2
6 And He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts.
7 "He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. (Rev. 21:6-7 NKJ)

If memory is wiped, then I wouldn't remember being thirsty, nor would my inheritance have a connection to the past.

23 The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light.
24 And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it. (Rev. 21:23-24 NKJ)
If memory is wiped, who knows what nations are, or they are from?

6 Then he said to me, "These words are faithful and true." And the Lord God of the holy prophets sent His angel to show His servants the things which must shortly take place. (Rev. 22:6 NKJ)

How would we remember we are servants of God? What we did or do?

 

[Fastfredy0]

23 The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light.
24 And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it. (Rev. 21:23-24 NKJ)
If memory is wiped, who knows what nations are, or they are from?

The verses do not say we will have memories of nations nor point out a need to know of previous nations. Thus, not a proof.

6 And He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts.
7 "He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. (Rev. 21:6-7 NKJ)

If memory is wiped, then I wouldn't remember being thirsty, nor would my inheritance have a connection to the past.

The verses don't show we have past memories nor the need to have past memories. You are assuming there is a need.

6 Then he said to me, "These words are faithful and true." And the Lord God of the holy prophets sent His angel to show His servants the things which must shortly take place. (Rev. 22:6 NKJ)

How would we remember we are servants of God? What we did or do?

The verses don't show we have past memories nor the need to have past memories. If there is a need to know we are His servants I am sure we would learn anew.

The earth is an evil place. It would make sense not to recall much of it. Again, this is not proof; rather, conjecture.

 

[Alfred Persson]

The verses do not say we will have memories of nations nor point out a need to know of previous nations. Thus, not a proof.


The verses don't show we have past memories nor the need to have past memories. You are assuming there is a need.


The verses don't show we have past memories nor the need to have past memories. If there is a need to know we are His servants I am sure we would learn anew.

The earth is an evil place. It would make sense not to recall much of it. Again, this is not proof; rather, conjecture.

They imply previous knowledge is retained, but not state it as you point out.

I always thought present times would be a distant memory, so overwhelmed by the good one could recall it without passion, emotion. God will right every wrong ten fold. There must be more to go on that your one verse, because it doesn't define what will be forgotten.

 

[Alfred Persson]

They imply previous knowledge is retained, but not state it as you point out.

I always thought present times would be a distant memory, so overwhelmed by the good one could recall it without passion, emotion. God will right every wrong ten fold. There must be more to go on that your one verse, because it doesn't define what will be forgotten.

I warming to the idea we start new, like Adam and Eve before they knew good and bad. But extraordinary claims require extraodinary proof. But you got me thinking, just don't have the time to really investigate the idea.

ChatGPT (not me, I may not agree after I think about it) says this:

The passage you're referring to is likely Isaiah 65:17, which says:

“See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.”

At first glance, this verse might seem to suggest that memory will be erased in the new creation. However, a closer study of related biblical texts indicates a different interpretation—one that suggests we will retain memory but with a transformed perspective.

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1. "The former things will not be remembered" (Isaiah 65:17)
   This phrase is better understood in context. It refers to God's renewal of creation—a world so completely transformed that past sufferings, sin, and pain will no longer cause grief. It doesn't necessarily imply memory erasure but rather that the emotional burden of past experiences will no longer affect us.
2. Texts That Indicate We Will Remember:
   • Revelation 5:9: The redeemed sing a song praising Christ for His redemptive work, implying awareness of past sins and salvation history.
   • Luke 16:19-31: In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, both individuals retain memory of their earthly lives after death.
   • John 20:27: Jesus shows His crucifixion scars to Thomas after His resurrection, indicating that past events (even traumatic ones) are not wiped from memory but transformed into glorifying testimonies.
3. Psalm 103:12 – God Removes Sin, Not Memory:

“As far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions from us.”
God removes the guilt and consequences of sin, but does not erase our awareness of His mercy and grace.