will we rule 1000 years with christ on earth ?

[holy999]

can you say me it

 

[for_his_glory]

It would be best to direct these questions to the End Tome forum as I will move it there.

 

[Who Me]

Is the thousand years real or symbolic?

 

[for_his_glory]

Rev 19:11-21 is that Jesus returns with his army of warring angels (not the saints of God) from heaven that follow Him, as Jesus will then destroy the beast and fasle prophet casting them into the lake of fire and then will strike dead the remnant by the words of His mouth as the remnant are those who the beast uses to rule evil over the nations. Christ then sends an angel to bind Satan for a 1000 years so he can no longer deceive the nations (people) anymore until he is set loose for a time. A 1000 years in Rev 20 is not literal years, but only symbolic of a certain period of time as nowhere else in scripture other than Rev 20 does it mention a literal 1000 year reign of Christ here on earth, but symbolic as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8.

Rev 20:4-15 during this time of Satan being bound comes the resurrection of all, (as all means saints and those who are not of faith in God), who are asleep in the ground will hear the voice of Christ calling them to come forth as some will be resurrected to eternal life with the Father and others to damnation, John 5:28,29, 1Corinthians 15:51-58; 1Thessalonians 1:1-10; 4:13-18. When we are given our new glorified bodies Jesus will gather us to Him like a mother hen gathers her chicks under her wings for protection, Matthew 23:34-39. Satan will be loosed for a short time to go out and deceive the nations by gathering all those who are his own and then sends them to attack the camp of the saints, but God sends fire down from heaven to devour them. Satan is then cast into the lake of fire followed by those who stand in Gods Great White Throne judgment and as their names are not written in the book of life will then be cast into the lake of fire and remembered no more.

Rev 6:9-11 and Rev 20:4 were only visions John was being shown as it is only the souls that are reigning with Christ in heaven as John 3:13 says no one other than Christ has ever ascended up to heaven. The only thing that goes back to God when this physical body dies and goes back to the dust of the ground is the very breath/spirit that made us a living soul as the soul can never die, Genesis 22:7; Ecc 12:7; Matthew 10:28. Those souls John was being shown are reigning with Christ in Heaven for a time until all of God's enemies become His footstool as Christ who sits at the right hand of the Father reigns with Him in heaven until the end comes on the last day, John 6:40, when Christ returns and establishes His kingdom here on earth and takes His seat on the throne of David in the New Jerusalem, Isaiah 66:1; Matthew 5:33-37; Hebrews 10:12,13.

Everything from Rev 11:14 that starts the third woe with the seventh trumpet sounding and continues through Rev 20:15 comes quickly in Gods timing, even though man tries to put a certain timing to the beginning and end of Gods great wrath. We inherit the kingdoms of God from the day of our Spiritual rebirth, John 3:3-6; Romans 10:9,10 as they have been prepared for us from the foundation of the world, Matthew 25:34. We reign with Christ here on this present earth as Gods grace gives us all power and authority through that of Christ Jesus for it is not our power and authority, but is Christ's that works in us and through us as a faithful servant as He is in us and we in Him.

 

[Who Me]

The fallercy of all 2nd coming posts, beliefs etc is the insistence that revelation is a literal discription of what is going to happen, instead of realising that it is a series of word pictures, often discribing in terms familier to John, what he does not comprehend.
example, a lamb standing on the throne as if it had been slain= Jesus, but is he really going to be in the form of a dead lamb or is this symbolic, the new Jerusalem paved with gold, gold is a soft metal that will quikly erode under the wear of countless feet. Either it is not ' pure ' gold, which rather defeats the symbolism or it is symbolic.
number have symbolic meaning, etc etc etc

There are two things we are certain of.

Jesus is coming again.

We don't know when, so must be expectant.

 

[for_his_glory]

The fallercy of all 2nd coming posts, beliefs etc is the insistence that revelation is a literal discription of what is going to happen, instead of realising that it is a series of word pictures, often discribing in terms familier to John, what he does not comprehend.
example, a lamb standing on the throne as if it had been slain= Jesus, but is he really going to be in the form of a dead lamb or is this symbolic, the new Jerusalem paved with gold, gold is a soft metal that will quikly erode under the wear of countless feet. Either it is not ' pure ' gold, which rather defeats the symbolism or it is symbolic.
number have symbolic meaning, etc etc etc

There are two things we are certain of.

Jesus is coming again.

We don't know when, so must be expectant.

Revelations is given to all nations and tongues that live throughout the whole world as in Jew and Gentile. Israel is mainly mentioned, but not all of Israel is Gods chosen people. Those who are washed in the blood of the Lamb are joined as a branch with Israel as God is the root of that branch and those who are sealed by His Holy Spirit are His own who find favor in Him, Romans 11:11-31. Therefore, our attention needs to be on those things that are happening in Israel especially Jerusalem as being Gods Holy City.

Revelations is full of symbolism that is literal where it needs to be and Spiritual where it needs to define that of the literal. These revelations are given as a warning to those who have yet to accept Jesus as Messiah. Gods chastisements are to draw those back to him in repentance before that door of salvation is closed forever when Jesus returns and Gods true Church is gathered up to be with the Father forever.

The focus in Revelations would seem to center around Israel only and the nations that come against her for this is how John would recognize it to be since all other nations were not yet developed in his time. Revelations is about all of us, Jew and Gentile, past, present and future that by faith keep Gods commandments. We are Gods witnesses that testify of His mercy and grace as we take His word out into the world to those who have ears to hear.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

can you say me it

If you have to ask, then probably not.

 

[Who Me]

Revelations is full of symbolism that is literal where it needs to be and Spiritual where it needs to define that of the literal.

And nobody agrees where they are.

 

[siddhi koli]

What year will Christ come?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Revelations is given to all nations and tongues that live throughout the whole world as in Jew and Gentile. Israel is mainly mentioned, but not all of Israel is Gods chosen people. Those who are washed in the blood of the Lamb are joined as a branch with Israel as God is the root of that branch and those who are sealed by His Holy Spirit are His own who find favor in Him, Romans 11:11-31. Therefore, our attention needs to be on those things that are happening in Israel especially Jerusalem as being Gods Holy City.

Revelations is full of symbolism that is literal where it needs to be and Spiritual where it needs to define that of the literal. These revelations are given as a warning to those who have yet to accept Jesus as Messiah. Gods chastisements are to draw those back to him in repentance before that door of salvation is closed forever when Jesus returns and Gods true Church is gathered up to be with the Father forever.

The focus in Revelations would seem to center around Israel only and the nations that come against her for this is how John would recognize it to be since all other nations were not yet developed in his time. Revelations is about all of us, Jew and Gentile, past, present and future that by faith keep Gods commandments. We are Gods witnesses that testify of His mercy and grace as we take His word out into the world to those who have ears to hear.

Revelation is written so that a group of people could understand it. I'm not one of that group but after I had realized what group it was I tended for, I started to understand.
There is a difference between this select group of people and the rest of the world. They suffer persecution for Christ, and they overcome the world. They are a chosen people above all peoples of the world and shall reign with Christ.

Deuteronomy 7:6 KJV: For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

After I realized who the beast is and those who will reign with Christ, this verse made perfect sense.

 

[for_his_glory]

What year will Christ come?

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

What year will Christ come?

3.5 years after the daily sacrifice is abolished.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

I don't think they are asking the day or hour. Just the year.