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With passion comes art.

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Lance_Iguana

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I'm a big fan of art and expresion and I've noticed that art dosen't mean anything untill it is put to the brinks of expression and can bring forth emotion.

Here is a sample of what great strugles can bring art wise.

Shostakovich who was a composer under stallin wrote this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1ShznI0 ... re=related


Sand paintings Germany killed 11 million Ukranians durring WW2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOhf3OvRXKg

With great saddness comes passion and art, but also in happyness do we see this, as we see the Vatican and the works of the Master Painters of the Renissance.

If anything proves we are a peopel of great love and sorrow it is these expressions. let us share what has touched us in art.
 
I'm a very big lover of art and especially music. I find I can get in touch with my inner most thoughts while listening to differen't artists. It's a feeling I wouldn't give up for the world.
 
The sand painting video was very impressive. I love it when people use art to tell stories. By the way, Lance, how would you define art, and do you think that everything can legitimately be called art or even "expression"?
 
azlan88 said:
The sand painting video was very impressive. I love it when people use art to tell stories. By the way, Lance, how would you define art, and do you think that everything can legitimately be called art or even "expression"?
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anything created with passion or a statement is art. A sketch that is mearly a copy of observation to me isn't art, but can be to others.

Dance, drawing, painting, sculpting, singing, playing and insturment, engineering, building, writing, comendy, even life and death is art to me.

As long as its done with expression and passion, it will move me.

This is even art to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJj-eMIu ... re=related
 
I watched the last video for less than a minute, but I could already tell that it is not art. To me, art has to be meaningful and in good taste. Skulls represent death, destruction, sorrow, and even evil. All of these things are not artistic, but are obaminations. I suppose I might say that genuine art reflects truth. Death, destruction, sorrow and evil are all a part of reality, but they derive from the father of lies and don't exemplify goodness in any measure. The sand painting contained death, destruction, sorrow and evil, but they were portrayed as a part of true history and were not glorified, and history, as it is written, belongs to the Lord.
 
" Love is only one of many passions" William Skakespear

What you described is still art to me. I see the good and the bad and apreciate it all for as long as I'm feeling somthing, I'm alive.

Knowing that man can recognize and express the worst of ourselves as much as the best, shows me that we are truely human and can grasp the power of our actions.

I understand your position and don't condem it, but I will disagree with you. :yes
 
I found some really bad "art" on the website for ImagineFX magazine. Perhaps you have heard of it? It depicts a person eating his scarred flesh, and the title is "Pleasures of the Flesh." It is so depraved that I will not post the picture on this forum, but I assure you that it exists. My question to you is if that is art? I say that it is not, and it was probably made by an evil person.
 
azlan88 said:
I found some really bad "art" on the website for ImagineFX magazine. Perhaps you have heard of it? It depicts a person eating his scarred flesh, and the title is "Pleasures of the Flesh." It is so depraved that I will not post the picture on this forum, but I assure you that it exists. My question to you is if that is art? I say that it is not, and it was probably made by an evil person.
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I dont' know that man's motive so I can't say. But my time on the net has taught me that there is always somthing more desturbing then the thing you last saw.

I do know of some really disturbing art. I don't condone it, but its still art to me.
 
It is clear that what you define as art is based on the way you see the world. And there's nothing wrong with that. I just think that if something is to merit being defined as art, it should portray things like mercy, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering, and love, not containing anything that is unclean.
 
I don't think that art has to be emotional, otherwise it's simply emotional art. I do portraits by drawing them by hand. That is art, although it isn't emotional. :shrug
 
Lance, I like the title of this thread. Some of the most beautiful and poignant drawings, paintings, sculptures, graffiti, whatever were created with a passion...out of sadness, joy, anger, frustration, you name it.
 
Art can be fueled by passion but it does not have to be so. It can be of intellect and careful planning and design. My best works of art (if any) were usually inspired by a deep emotional state or experience.

I think there is a high art form that goes beyond the demonstration of technical prowess and reaches into the viewer/reader/listener and moves that person to realize or recognize something. The emotion can come from the one enjoying the art, not only the artists.
 
Dude named Louis said:
Art can be fueled by passion but it does not have to be so. It can be of intellect and careful planning and design. My best works of art (if any) were usually inspired by a deep emotional state or experience.

I think there is a high art form that goes beyond the demonstration of technical prowess and reaches into the viewer/reader/listener and moves that person to realize or recognize something. The emotion can come from the one enjoying the art, not only the artists.
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Actually I agree with this a little bit. Pretty much all the links I've used in this thread all have stired emotions in me.
 
What kind of emotional response did you get from the skull and the static and crap? By the way, not everything requires an emotional response. Sometimes it is necessary not to trust our emotions. For by our emotions we are mere animal, and by our intellect we are mere spirit. But by proper sentiments niether of these two take precedence, but rational judgements can be made for every area of life.
 
azlan88 said:
What kind of emotional response did you get from the skull and the static and crap?
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Merzbow is a Japanese noise artist.

I can feel his anger and frustration in his arangements. His complete embrace of chaos is what interests me in him. I see the beuty in what he dose to show his anger about War and death.
 
Lance_Iguana said:
azlan88 said:
What kind of emotional response did you get from the skull and the static and crap?
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Merzbow is a Japanese noise artist.

I can feel his anger and frustration in his arangements. His complete embrace of chaos is what interests me in him. I see the beuty in what he dose to show his anger about War and death.
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I get all that when i think war and relive what i seen.
 
Hold on. His complete embrace of chaos? Terrorists embrace chaos when they blow people up! When a person is that messed up, there is only a small gap between what he feels and believes and acting on those feelings and beliefs. Theoretically, the civil society would crash and burn if all of its people "embraced chaos", so there's nothing artistic about such a broken state of mind. I visited the man's site, however, and although I disagree with his views, he doesn't seem completely messed up, so I hope that you're not misrepresenting him.
 
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What does the art advocate, for the good/righteousness or for the evil/wickedness?

If it is meant to lure one into the path of advocacy for unrighteousness, then it must always be avoided and forever be protested against. The devil is fast a work and if one isn't aware of the whiles of the devil, then they are likely to nibble at his bait, fall into his pit, be snared by his net, be injured and caught in his trap that only leads to a demise.

You are what you eat, what you think, and what you act upon. Ones own indulgences determines ones own breeding. Ones preference and "appreciation" of art is no exception to the nature of ones character. You like tomato, I like tomatoe is no comparison to you like the vulgar, I like the pure. Appreciation of the vulgar, the perverse, must never be acceptable.

So, the question should always be.... What is the intention of the work of art?

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