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Women and veils?

I have been debating this with a few people in the church as well as my fiancé’. In the Bible (NT) it says 1 Corinthians 11:1-18

1Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.

Propriety in Worship
2 praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings, just as I passed them on to you.
3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. 6If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. 7A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head. 11In the Lord, however, woman is not independent of man, nor is an independent of woman. 12For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God. 13Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 16If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.

A common misconception is that Muslim women are the only ones who cover their hair. It may be true that Islam is the only religion in which most women follow its directives to cover the hair, but it is not the only religion to have such directives.

My fiancé’ has been thinking about wearing a veil to church from now on. I support her in every way, as I am also a very conservative Christian. In the verses it sounds as if it states that a woman’s long hair is her cover 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. (NIV) This has always been subject to debate. I have spoken with many pastors on this subject but to no avail. I have also spoken to other women about this and most say they wouldn’t because it is oppressing and downright wrong. I as was always taught, the Bible is not subject to our own interpretation…at all. We are to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and follow them as best we can.

For generations now the women in my own family have always worn headdress in church. Keep in mind my family is traditional Italian and my fiancé’s family is from India. My mother and father are deacons at a conservative Baptist church, and my mother will wear a designer “veil†while worshiping. There are a couple of other women that do, but they are from other countries and say that women should always be covered at least in the church. I and my fence’ attend a nondenominational new wave church “rock-band church†and the pastor is AWESOME at his delivery of the word and life application, but I see a lot of men coming in with backwards hats and women coming in showing more than they should and not being modest.

I understand it’s a new age in Christianity and pastors have to do anything they can to get new members. But if we outright disobey the Bible and its laws that govern us as far as modesty is it really a church or just a Christ centered party?

What are your thoughts?

Also my fiancé’ refuses to attend a church with women pastors. It states this in the Bible and I agree but I want to make sure that is right?

PLEASE do not take what I say or am asking as being prejudice, I am an extremely loving and caring towards women and have been raised a little different with or views of the roll of a man and woman.
What are your thoughts?

God be with you all!

Again I mean no offense
 
This is a very controversial subject that I generally do not touch. I have my personal beliefs on it but leave others to be convicted by God on how they interpret these Scriptures. I don`t wish to debate this subject I just want to share with you that I think you should follow your own convictions. Like you, I believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible so if the Bibles says it, I believe it. Therefore, I have long hair and I wear a hat to church. I also attend a modern non-denominational church so naturally I am the only one that wears a hat. That doesn`t bother me. I try to live a life that pleases God and I leave others to do likewise. I don`t think anyone is going to hell over not covering their heads so I don`t find it to be a subject worth fighting over. I find it to be rather private, between me and God, and I like to keep it that way. At home, I usually cover my head with a lace veil when I pray. As for women pastors, I agree with your girlfriend, I simply could not attend a church where the pastor was a woman. I believe the female pastor can be a sister in Christ, and a sincere Christian, but I personally believe the Bible teaches against female pastors so I avoid such churches.
 
I would have to agree with you. It's very nice that you cover yourhead when you pray. I'm not trying to start an argument with this, but it is a topic most people especially women try to ignore or pass off. I find it commendable that you do as much as you do already. I only try to follow the direct laws and teachings of the Bible. It would almost be impossible to follow them perfectly. I think it is nearly impossible in todays society, especialy since everybody "interprets" the Bible diferently and when someone brings up the facts they shy away.

Awesome reply! And keep up the practices you do.

God be with you. :amen
 
A woman doesn't have to wear a full on veil to cover her head. It could just be a scarf. I don't know how I feel on this topic. I don't think it is oppressive to wear a head covering, yet I must admit I don't do it. It is similar to some people observing the feasts, which God said were forever, yet Paul said it was not necessary to "observe days". However, I do absolutely believe in modesty. You don't have to wear a burlap sack, but you shouldn't be wearing low cut, tight fitting clothing either.

In regards to women pastors, I have to say I don't really feel comfortable with this either. Like Paisley said, they can be wonderful women of God and sisters in Christ, and I hold nothing against them. My pastor's wife is the women's pastor and sometimes she speaks before the whole congregation and I have found it very edifying, she is a brilliant woman of God. But a whole church run by a woman? I'm not sure how I feel about that.
 
In the Mennonite tradition, women were a covering. Some were like bonnets and some would be just a lace covering. In more traditional (ie: conservative) Mennonite churches you will still see this among the older generation. It is not a "taught" doctrine anymore that women must wear the covering, but left to the individual to discern for themselves - at least among most Mennonite churches.
 
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