Worship The One God Or The One Mediator??

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Re: "Worship God" (Rev. 22:9b) THROUGH Christ Jesu

hiya terral,

You are confusing the Greek term ‘proskuneo*’ (#4352) with the term ‘sebomai’ (#4576) used exclusively in cases of worshipping ‘Deity.’ Even Cornelius ‘worships’ (‘proskuneo’) before Peter in Acts 10:25, which has NOTHING to do with worshipping him as ‘Deity.’

oh yeah, then how do explain this?
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Acts 10:24-26
25 As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. 26 But Peter made him get up. "Stand up," he said, "I am only a man myself." NIV

Why did peter stopped the cornelius and said he is only a man? Peter understood that prokuneo is for god. if some people want to worship fellow men or the beast or idols, that's they problem.

but the fact is sebomai and proskuneo has PRACTICALLY no difference.

We agree that everyone shall ‘worship’ (bow and give homage) the “Son of God,†but God’s children will “worship†NO ONE but “His God and Father†(Revelation 1:6) as “Deity.â€Â

if we agree that we shall both bown down to Jesus, in what sense it is not true worship.? again what is the practical difference if you worship Jesus in one hand and the father in the other hand.? specially when you said that we can worship god thru jesus. now if you worship god thru jesus aren't you gonna give jesus the highest form of worship? afterall the worship ultimately ends in god.

Everyone here is bowing and giving homage (‘proskuneo’) and not worshipping (‘sebomai’) anyone as Deity.

25 As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. 26 But Peter made him get up. "Stand up," he said, "I am only a man myself."

here's another beauty....
Rev 19:10
10 At this I fell at his feet to worship(proskuno)him. But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant [/color]with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God!NIV

in light of these scriptures, it is obvious that whether it was proskuno or sebomai, PROPER worship must be only address to the father or to the son or both. never to angels nor fellow men.

so there is no confusion between the two greek words, perhaps it's just terral doing some mumbo jumbo with words?

God is with The Word in John 1:2. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us (John 1:14). "NO ONE has seen God at ANY TIME . . .". John 1:18. Many have seen (John 1:34) the “Son of God.†Did God send His Only Begotten Son into the world in your Bible? John 3:16? Christ’s “My God†(John 20:17) did the sending and Jesus Christ is the “Son of God.†John 1:34. What does Christ say?

"You are doing the deeds of your father." They said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; WE have one Father: God." Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God (God's Word talking), for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me.

exactly why i believed that Jesus is...

God of very god
True god from true god
light of light, true light from true light.

The question then becomes this: "Does your testimony concerning God and His Only Begotten Son agree 100 percent with every Word from the mouth of God?" Terral intends to stand at the Judgment (2 Corinthians 5:10) all alone to be judged over whether his testimony agrees with every syllable from the mouth of Almighty God concerning His Only Begotten Son. My testimony is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (John 1:34, Revelation 2:18) and the Word of God (John 1:1-3, John 1:14) sent forth from AND returning to His God and Father (Revelation 1:6). My knee shall bend before the Son of God like that of every other son of God (Romans 8:14, Romans 8:19, Galatians 3:27, etc.) and join Him in worshipping (‘sebomai’) €œHis God and Father†as “MY GOD†(Revelation 3:2, Revelation 3:12).

the question you asked was who to worship, the father or the son?

i gave you scriptures that the son was also worshipped. that's 100 percent bible.

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[theSeriousOne]

Greetings to All:

This Thread is dedicated to Debate on whether we should worship the “one God†or the “one Mediator†Christ Jesus of 1 Timothy 2:5. My hypothesis is that we are to “Worship God†(Revelation 22:9b) ‘through’ “Christ Jesusâ€Â, as our Intercessor (Romans 8:34) and our “one Mediator.†1Timothy 2:5.

If my premise is correct, then some are transforming Jesus Christ (#2) into “The Almighty†(#1); thereby transforming God’s Son into their golden calf of IDOLATRY.

My hypothesis above is based upon the truth that the three witnesses of “The Almighty†(Revelation 1:8) are listed in line #1 with the three witnesses of God’s Son (Matthew 28:19) in line #2 and the three witnesses of this Creation in line #3. I agree with the trinitarians on the ‘model’ of their doctrine, but we disagree on the names of the three witnesses that should be plugged into that formula.

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1. “The Almighty†(Spirit) = God To Come (spirit), God Who Is (blood), God Who Was (water) = “One God †(1Timothy 2:5).

2. God’s Son = (Blood) Father (spirit), Son (blood), Holy Spirit (water) = “One Mediator†(1Timothy 2:5).

3. Adam = (Water) Heavens (spirit), Heaven (blood) and Earth (water) = Creation.
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Should the sons of God be worshipping the “One God†or the “One Mediator†of the same verse?

GL in the Debate.

In Christ,

Terral

The churches are worshipping the Mediator as God.

 

[justbyfaith]

1Ti 2:5, For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

1 Timothy 2:5 is most accurately translated,

1Ti 2:5, For there is one God, <even> one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

The Greek word for "and" in that verse (in the kjv) is "kai" which can be translated "even".