Yahwah is a Holy Spirit

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In the only codices which would be even likely to preserve an older reading, namely the Sinaitic Syriac and the oldest Latin Manuscript, the pages are GONE which contained the end of Matthew 28. Frederick Cornwallis Conybeare (1856 - 9 January 1924) Professor of Theology at the University of Oxford.

Here is the oldest recorded document of Matthew 28:19.

"The Demonstratio Evangelica" by Eusebius:
Eusebius of Caesarea. 265 ? AD.– 337 ? AD.

Eusebius was the Church historian and Bishop of Caesarea. On page 152 Eusebius quotes the early book of Matthew that he had in his library in Caesarea. Eusebius informs us of Yahshua's actual words to his disciples in the original text of Matthew 28:19.

Quote: "With one word and voice He said to His disciples: "Go, and make disciples of all nations in My Name, teaching them to observe all...

And again Eusebius for example, in Book III of his History, Chapter 5, Section 2, which is about the Jewish persecution of early Christians, we read:

"But the rest of the disciples, who had been incessantly plotted against with a view to their destruction, and had been driven out of the land of Judea, went to all nations to preach the good news, relying upon the power of Christ, who had said to them, "Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name."


And again, in his Oration in Praise of Emperor Constantine, Chapter 16, Section 8, we read:

"What king or prince in any age of the world, what philosopher, legislator or prophet, in civilized or barbarous lands, has attained so great a height of excellence, I say not after death, but while living still, and full of mighty power, as to fill the ears and tongues of all mankind with the praises of his name?
Surely none save our only Savior has done this, when, after his victory over death, he spoke these words to his followers, and fulfilled it by that event, saying to them, "Go ye and make disciples of all nations in my name."

There is not a single occurrence of the disciples baptizing anyone using the Trinitarian formula. All of the scripture in the New Testament shows that people were baptized into the name of Yahshua, even after Pentecost.

And yet, the Didache was written much earlier than that, as early as AD 50, and while it says nothing of Matt 28:19, it does say to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Justin Martyr (c. 100 - c. 165), in First Apology, chapter 61, says, "For, in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Saviour Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit, they then receive the washing with water." While he isn't quoting Matt 28:19, it is in full agreement. You'll also notice how early the doctrine of the Trinity was being believed and written about.

Iranaeus says in Against Heresies (c. 180), book 3, chapter 17, section 1: 'And again, giving to the disciples the power of regeneration into God, He said to them,” Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”'

Tertullian also mentions the triadic formula in On Baptism (AD 200-206), chapter XIII: ' For the law of baptizing has been imposed, and the formula prescribed: “Go,” He saith, “teach the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.”' In Prescription Against Heretics, chapter 20, he says, 'He commanded the eleven others, on His departure to the Father, to “go and teach all nations, who were to be baptized into the Father, and into the Son, and into the Holy Ghost.”'

There is plenty of early evidence that the church was using the triadic formula and were commanded to do so, whether from Matt 28:19 or otherwise. That Matt 28:19 was changed is questionable.

Regardless, it’s just one verse out of many, and it isn’t needed to support the doctrine of the Trinity.

 

[CherubRam]

And yet, the Didache was written much earlier than that, as early as AD 50, and while it says nothing of Matt 28:19, it does say to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Justin Martyr (c. 100 - c. 165), in First Apology, chapter 61, says, "For, in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Saviour Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit, they then receive the washing with water." While he isn't quoting Matt 28:19, it is in full agreement. You'll also notice how early the doctrine of the Trinity was being believed and written about.

Iranaeus says in Against Heresies (c. 180), book 3, chapter 17, section 1: 'And again, giving to the disciples the power of regeneration into God, He said to them,” Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”'

Tertullian also mentions the triadic formula in On Baptism (AD 200-206), chapter XIII: ' For the law of baptizing has been imposed, and the formula prescribed: “Go,” He saith, “teach the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.”' In Prescription Against Heretics, chapter 20, he says, 'He commanded the eleven others, on His departure to the Father, to “go and teach all nations, who were to be baptized into the Father, and into the Son, and into the Holy Ghost.”'

There is plenty of early evidence that the church was using the triadic formula and were commanded to do so, whether from Matt 28:19 or otherwise. That Matt 28:19 was changed is questionable.

Regardless, it’s just one verse out of many, and it isn’t needed to support the doctrine of the Trinity.

I do not understand what you are saying.

 

[Mungo]

The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263:
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."

Be careful about supposed quotes from "The Catholic Encyclopedia". There is a highly regarded one with Nihil Obstat and an Imprimatur for every entry, available online - Here

It says under the entry on Baptism:
FORM
The requisite and sole valid form of baptism is: "I baptize thee (or This person is baptized) in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost." This was the form given by Christ to His Disciples in the twenty-eighth chapter of St. Matthew's Gospel, as far, at least, as there is question of the invocation of the separate Persons of the Trinity and the expression of the nature of the action performed.
No mention of it being changed in the 2nd century

And I have seen questionable quotes from another "The Catholic Encyclopedia" by two people.

The Jerusalem Bible, a scholarly Catholic work, states:
"It may be that this formula, (Triune Matthew 28:19) so far as the fullness of its expression is concerned, is a reflection of the (Man-made) liturgical usage established later in the primitive (Catholic) community. It will be remembered that Acts speaks of baptizing "in the name of Jesus."

My Jerusalem Bible doesn't say that.

I don't know where you get your quotes from but they seem dodgy.
Do you ever check them out?

 

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I do not understand what you are saying.

I’m saying that the Trinitarian baptismal formula was in use much earlier than Eusebius’s quote, with Tertullian even saying it was commanded of the eleven. This casts doubt on Matt 28:19 having been changed as you claim and suggests that either Matt 28:19 originally did have the triadic formula or that Jesus had at some other time commanded them to do it with that formula.

It shows both that the early church used the Trinitarian baptismal formula, but more importantly, that belief in the Trinity came about very early.

 

[CherubRam]

Be careful about supposed quotes from "The Catholic Encyclopedia". There is a highly regarded one with Nihil Obstat and an Imprimatur for every entry, available online - Here

It says under the entry on Baptism:
FORM
The requisite and sole valid form of baptism is: "I baptize thee (or This person is baptized) in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost." This was the form given by Christ to His Disciples in the twenty-eighth chapter of St. Matthew's Gospel, as far, at least, as there is question of the invocation of the separate Persons of the Trinity and the expression of the nature of the action performed.
No mention of it being changed in the 2nd century

And I have seen questionable quotes from another "The Catholic Encyclopedia" by two people.



My Jerusalem Bible doesn't say that.

I don't know where you get your quotes from but they seem dodgy.
Do you ever check them out?

Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 10:48
So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

Acts 19:5
On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

 

[CherubRam]

I’m saying that the Trinitarian baptismal formula was in use much earlier than Eusebius’s quote, with Tertullian even saying it was commanded of the eleven. This casts doubt on Matt 28:19 having been changed as you claim and suggests that either Matt 28:19 originally did have the triadic formula or that Jesus had at some other time commanded them to do it with that formula.

It shows both that the early church used the Trinitarian baptismal formula, but more importantly, that belief in the Trinity came about very early.

There have been Pagan trinities since the beginning of Babylon. What was different about the God of Abraham was that He was not a trinity.

 

[Free]

There have been Pagan trinities since the beginning of Babylon.

Which doesn't mean that God isn't a Trinity.

What was different about the God of Abraham was that He was not a trinity.

Yet there is not a single verse that directly or clearly states that God is an absolute unity, a single person.

 

[CherubRam]

Which doesn't mean that God isn't a Trinity.


Yet there is not a single verse that directly or clearly states that God is an absolute unity, a single person.

There are many verse that state God the Father is the only one.

 

[Free]

There are many verse that state God the Father is the only one.

Give one.

 

[CherubRam]

Give one.

Exodus 20:3. "You shall have no other gods (Elohiyms) before me.

Deuteronomy 4:35. You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD (Yahwah) is God (Elohiym); besides Him there is no other.

Deuteronomy 4:39. Acknowledge and take to heart this day that the LORD (Yahwah) is God (Elohiym) in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.

Deuteronomy 5:7. "You shall have no other gods (Elohiyms) before me.

Deuteronomy 6:4. Hear, O Israel: The Lord (Yahwah) our God (Elohiym), the LORD (Yahwah) is one (only.)

1 Kings 8:60. So that all the peoples of the earth may know that the LORD (Yahwah) is God (Elohiym) and that there is no other.

Isaiah 42:8. "I am the LORD (Yahwah); that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols.


Isaiah 43:10. "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD (Yahwah), "and my servant (Yahshua) whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god (el) was formed, nor will there be one after me.

Isaiah 44:8. Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God (Eloah=Gods above) besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one."

Isaiah 45:5. I am the LORD (Yahwah), and there is no other; apart from me there is no God (Elohiym).

6. so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me. I am the LORD (Yahwah), and there is no other.

Isaiah 45:14. This is what the LORD (Yahwah) says: "The products of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush, and those tall Sabeans— they will come over to you and will be yours; they will trudge behind you, coming over to you in chains. They will bow down before you and plead with you, saying, 'Surely God (El) is with you, and there is no other; there is no other god (Elohiym).' "

Isaiah 45:18. For this is what the LORD (Yahwah) says: He who created the heavens, He is God (Elohiym); He who fashioned and made the earth, He founded it; He did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited: He says: "I am the LORD (Yahwah), and there is no other.

Isaiah 45:22. "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God (El), and there is no other.

Isaiah 46:9. Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God (El), and there is no other; I am God (Elohiym), and there is none like me.

Joel 2:27. Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am the LORD (Yahwah) your God (Elohiym), and that there is no other; never again will my people be shamed.


Yahwah is God and he won't give his glory to another god.

The Greatest Commandment

Mark 12:28. One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus (Yahshua) had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"

29. "The most important one," answered Jesus (Yahshua), "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord (Yahwah) our God (Elohiym), the Lord (Yahwah) is one (only).

Mark 12:32. "Well said, teacher," the man replied. "You are right in saying that God (Yahwah) is one (only) and there is no other but Him.


John 14:28. "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you love me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

 

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Exodus 20:3. "You shall have no other gods (Elohiyms) before me.

Deuteronomy 4:35. You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD (Yahwah) is God (Elohiym); besides Him there is no other.

Deuteronomy 4:39. Acknowledge and take to heart this day that the LORD (Yahwah) is God (Elohiym) in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.

Deuteronomy 5:7. "You shall have no other gods (Elohiyms) before me.

Deuteronomy 6:4. Hear, O Israel: The Lord (Yahwah) our God (Elohiym), the LORD (Yahwah) is one (only.)

1 Kings 8:60. So that all the peoples of the earth may know that the LORD (Yahwah) is God (Elohiym) and that there is no other.

Isaiah 42:8. "I am the LORD (Yahwah); that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols.


Isaiah 43:10. "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD (Yahwah), "and my servant (Yahshua) whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god (el) was formed, nor will there be one after me.

Isaiah 44:8. Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God (Eloah=Gods above) besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one."

Isaiah 45:5. I am the LORD (Yahwah), and there is no other; apart from me there is no God (Elohiym).

6. so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me. I am the LORD (Yahwah), and there is no other.

Isaiah 45:14. This is what the LORD (Yahwah) says: "The products of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush, and those tall Sabeans— they will come over to you and will be yours; they will trudge behind you, coming over to you in chains. They will bow down before you and plead with you, saying, 'Surely God (El) is with you, and there is no other; there is no other god (Elohiym).' "

Isaiah 45:18. For this is what the LORD (Yahwah) says: He who created the heavens, He is God (Elohiym); He who fashioned and made the earth, He founded it; He did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited: He says: "I am the LORD (Yahwah), and there is no other.

Isaiah 45:22. "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God (El), and there is no other.

Isaiah 46:9. Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God (El), and there is no other; I am God (Elohiym), and there is none like me.

Joel 2:27. Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am the LORD (Yahwah) your God (Elohiym), and that there is no other; never again will my people be shamed.


Yahwah is God and he won't give his glory to another god.

The Greatest Commandment

Mark 12:28. One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus (Yahshua) had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"

29. "The most important one," answered Jesus (Yahshua), "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord (Yahwah) our God (Elohiym), the Lord (Yahwah) is one (only).

Mark 12:32. "Well said, teacher," the man replied. "You are right in saying that God (Yahwah) is one (only) and there is no other but Him.


John 14:28. "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you love me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Those are all verses of monotheism only, not of the ontological nature of God. They say nothing of whether God is a single person or three persons. These all agree with Trinitarianism which fully affirms monotheism.

 

[CherubRam]

Those are all verses of monotheism only, not of the ontological nature of God. They say nothing of whether God is a single person or three persons. These all agree with Trinitarianism which fully affirms monotheism.

What part of "NO" do you not understand?

 

[Free]

What part of "NO" do you not understand?

What's your point?

 

[Mungo]

There have been Pagan trinities since the beginning of Babylon. What was different about the God of Abraham was that He was not a trinity.

Prove it.
You keep making claims with not a shred of evidence to back them up.

 

[Mungo]

Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 10:48
So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

Acts 19:5
On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

What is your point?
Is there one?

 

[CherubRam]

What's your point?

You are not acknowledging the word "NO."

The Pagan Origins Of The Trinity Doctrine

Is the trinity pagan or does the doctrine of the trinity have pagan origins or is it biblical or was it formulated in the council of Nicea?

www.trinitytruth.org

God is not a man: In Numbers 23:19; "God is not a man..." defies the possibility that Yahshua The Messiah is God. The text states that: Yahwah is not an ("iys/man) that He should lie, nor the son of (Adam/Man")...

Numbers 23:19

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent:


Also Here:

Hosea 11:9
I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a man— the Holy One among you.


Psalm 80:17
Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand, the son of man you have raised up for yourself.


Matthew 22:44
" 'The Lord said (Yahwah) said to my lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." '


Matthew 26:64
"Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

Matthew 22:41
41While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42"What do you think about the Messiah ? Whose son is he?" "The son of David," they replied. 43He said to them, "How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him 'lord'? For he says, 44" 'Yahwah said to my lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." 45If then David calls him 'lord,' how can he be his son?"​

Matthew 1:1
This is the genealogy of Yahshua the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham:​

Matthew 1:20
But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.​

John 10:36
what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?​

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God is not a man: In Numbers 23:19; "God is not a man..." defies the possibility that Yahshua The Messiah is God. The text states that: Yahwah is not an ("iys/man) that He should lie, nor the son of (Adam/Man")...

Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent:


Also Here:

Hosea 11:9
I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a man— the Holy One among you.


Psalm 80:17
Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand, the son of man you have raised up for yourself.


Matthew 22:44
" 'The Lord said (Yahwah) said to my lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." '


Matthew 26:64
"Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

 

[Free]

You are not acknowledging the word "NO."

What word "no," the one in all the verses about monotheism? Again, I have repeatedly stated that Trinitarians fully affirm monotheism and agree with all those verses you posted. And, again, there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that directly or clearly states that God is a single person.

God is not a man: In Numbers 23:19; "God is not a man..." defies the possibility that Yahshua The Messiah is God. The text states that: Yahwah is not an ("iys/man) that He should lie, nor the son of (Adam/Man")...

Numbers 23:19

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent:


Also Here:

Hosea 11:9
I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a man— the Holy One among you.


Psalm 80:17
Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand, the son of man you have raised up for yourself.


Matthew 22:44
" 'The Lord said (Yahwah) said to my lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." '


Matthew 26:64
"Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

Matthew 22:41​

41While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42"What do you think about the Messiah ? Whose son is he?" "The son of David," they replied. 43He said to them, "How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him 'lord'? For he says, 44" 'Yahwah said to my lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." 45If then David calls him 'lord,' how can he be his son?"​

Matthew 1:1​

This is the genealogy of Yahshua the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham:​

Matthew 1:20​

But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.​

John 10:36​

what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?​

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God is not a man: In Numbers 23:19; "God is not a man..." defies the possibility that Yahshua The Messiah is God. The text states that: Yahwah is not an ("iys/man) that He should lie, nor the son of (Adam/Man")...

Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent:


Also Here:

Hosea 11:9
I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a man— the Holy One among you.


Psalm 80:17
Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand, the son of man you have raised up for yourself.


Matthew 22:44
" 'The Lord said (Yahwah) said to my lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." '


Matthew 26:64
"Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

Yes, God is not a man, he is God, but that doesn't mean that God cannot enter into time and take on human flesh. I'm getting lost on what point you're trying to make as none of these prove the Trinity false. John 10:36 and Matt 26:64 actually support the deity of Jesus.

 

[Mungo]

The Pagan Origins Of The Trinity Doctrine

Is the trinity pagan or does the doctrine of the trinity have pagan origins or is it biblical or was it formulated in the council of Nicea?

www.trinitytruth.org

There is so much wrong with this.

Just to take 3 points:

1. It quotes from Alexander Hislop's book The Two Babylons as evidence.
Alexander Hislop was a complete charlatan. His claims were thoroughly debunked by Ralph Woodrow, in his book The Babylon Connection?

The reviewer of Woodrow's The Babylon Connection? says:
The Babylon Connection? is a devastating critique of Hislop and his many imitators. Almost from the first page, the shoddy scholarship, blatant dishonesty, and personal prejudices of Alexander Hislop are quite evident. By the end of the first chapter, none except those suffering from “black helicopters over America” paranoia could possibly view Hislop as anything but a crackpot and a fraud. Woodrow presses on, however, and in painstaking detail demonstrates Hislop’s lack of scholarly integrity. As one who was formerly believed Hislop to be a credible source, Woodrow understands the mindset of those fooled by this belief system and he leaves their delusions in tatters. When it is over, nothing of Hislop’s rhetorical edifice is left standing.
(http://labarum.net/)

Firstly his claims turned out to be bogus. He simply invented information about Babylonia which doesn’t exist. Likewise his diagrams and sketches were just a product of his imagination,
Secondly he made links without any causal evidence, avoiding more realistic causal links. For example he claimed that the Babylonians offered round wafers to their God, the same a Catholic hosts at the Catholic Mass. His Babylonian claim was false, he showed no link as to how the Catholic Church took this from Babylon, and ignored the obvious point that the Matzo bread which Jesus broke at the last supper was flat round unleavened bread. Also manna is described as round (Ex 16:14) and like wafers (Ex16:31)

As Wikipedia says: "tribute to historical inaccuracy and know-nothing religious bigotry" with "shoddy scholarship, blatant dishonesty" and a "nonsensical thesis".[3][4]

The Two Babylons - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2. Semiramis was not married to Nimrod. That is utter historical nonsense.
In his book Woodrow says he referenced many recognised reference works including:
The Encyclopaedia Americana
The Encyclopaedia Britannica
The Encyclopaedia Judaica
The Encyclopaedia of Religion
The New Catholic Encyclopaedia
The World Book Encyclopedia.
None of the works he consulted make any mention of Nimrod and Semiramis being husband and wife.

Not only that but the information given rules it out.
The Encyclopaedia Americana and The Encyclopaedia Britannica say Semiramis (or Sammu-ramat), as she was called by the Assyrians was the wife of Shamshi-Adad V who reigned 823-811 BC. (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/520556/Sammu-ramat)

Nimrod on the other hand is identified by some scholars as Sargon the Great (who lived about 2600 BC), others with Gilgamesh (who lived about 2200 BC), other with the Egyptian monarch Amenophis III (about 1411 BC), others with the Assyrianor Tukulti-Ninurti I (about 1246 BC).

So Semiramis and Nimrod lived several centuries apart.

3. The examples given of a "trinity" - in Babylon, Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz, in Egypt, their trinity became Osiris, Horus and Isis (top left). In Greece it was Zeus, Apollo and Athena (top right). And in India there was Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.
These are not trinities but triads.- 3 beings whereas the Trinity is one being.

 

[CherubRam]

Pantheion, Theion, Theos, Ton.
Pantheon, Theon.

Pantheion
Greek pantheion, from pan 'all' + theion 'Divine Eternal-s' (from theos 'divine.')
From Greek aion, meaning Eternal, for an infinite amount of time Pantheion: Pan/the/ion. All Divine Eternal-s. The word “All” makes it plural.

aeon or aion or eon
1. An immeasurably long period of time. From Greek, Aion, an infinitely long time.

Greek word TON and THEON.
From the Scripture4All program. Link: Scripture4All - Greek/Hebrew interlinear Bible software

The Greek word "TON" is translated 1583 times as "the;" And 18 times as "the -one." It is used before nouns to mean a {certain-one-person-s,} or place, or thing. However, different translations of Greek do not always agree. That is the reason for my interpretation of John 1:1 as "the only Divine Eternal." In English the word “one” can also be translated as “only.” TON: The only. THEON: Divine Eternal.

John 1:1
Greek:
en arche eimi ho logos kai ho logos eimi pros ton theon kai theos eimi ho logos

Interlinear:
en (in) arche (beginning) eimi (was) ho (the) logos (word) kai (and) ho (the) logos (word) eimi (was) pos (toward or with) ton (TON is a special definite article "the" meaning the one or only, it appears as TON instead of O in the Greek) theon (Divine Eternal) kai (and) theos (divine) eimi (was) ho (the) logos (word)

In English we have:
In beginning was the word, and the word was with (the one or only) Divine Eternal, and divine was the word.

Why do translators drop off the definite article TON (the one or only) before Divine Eternal?



The Word
Zechariah 11:11
It was revoked on that day, and so the afflicted of the flock who were watching me knew it was The Word [Yahshua] of [the Lord / Yahwah.]

 

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Pantheion, Theion, Theos, Ton.
Pantheon, Theon.

Pantheion
Greek pantheion, from pan 'all' + theion 'Divine Eternal-s' (from theos 'divine.')
From Greek aion, meaning Eternal, for an infinite amount of time Pantheion: Pan/the/ion. All Divine Eternal-s. The word “All” makes it plural.

aeon or aion or eon
1. An immeasurably long period of time. From Greek, Aion, an infinitely long time.

Greek word TON and THEON.
From the Scripture4All program. Link: Scripture4All - Greek/Hebrew interlinear Bible software

The Greek word "TON" is translated 1583 times as "the;" And 18 times as "the -one." It is used before nouns to mean a {certain-one-person-s,} or place, or thing. However, different translations of Greek do not always agree. That is the reason for my interpretation of John 1:1 as "the only Divine Eternal." In English the word “one” can also be translated as “only.” TON: The only. THEON: Divine Eternal.

John 1:1
Greek:
en arche eimi ho logos kai ho logos eimi pros ton theon kai theos eimi ho logos

Interlinear:
en (in) arche (beginning) eimi (was) ho (the) logos (word) kai (and) ho (the) logos (word) eimi (was) pos (toward or with) ton (TON is a special definite article "the" meaning the one or only, it appears as TON instead of O in the Greek) theon (Divine Eternal) kai (and) theos (divine) eimi (was) ho (the) logos (word)

In English we have:
In beginning was the word, and the word was with (the one or only) Divine Eternal, and divine was the word.

Why do translators drop off the definite article TON (the one or only) before Divine Eternal?



The Word
Zechariah 11:11
It was revoked on that day, and so the afflicted of the flock who were watching me knew it was The Word [Yahshua] of [the Lord / Yahwah.]

Why do you keep repeating this stuff that we've dealt with? What is your point? What do you think you are proving?