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[GodsGrace]

The original text says ("on one of the Sabbaths.") It does not say "on the first day of the week."

Where is this original text?

 

[GodsGrace]

Christ was buried Friday evening just before sundown. He said he would be in the grave for three days and nights. That would mean that his resurrection came after Monday evening.

Luke 23:54
It was Preparation Day, (Friday) and the Sabbath was about to begin.

In Judaism a day begins at sundown by tradition.

We've gone through this many times on this forum...
It really just does not interest me.
3 days and 3 nights is not possible.
So, apparently, it was how they spoke, or someone made a mistake in translation.
We'll never know for sure.

 

[Elteqay]

Christ was buried Friday evening just before sundown. He said he would be in the grave for three days and nights. That would mean that his resurrection came after Monday evening.

Luke 23:54
It was Preparation Day, (Friday) and the Sabbath was about to begin.

In Judaism a day begins at sundown by tradition.

Brother, Daniel the Prophet states in Daniel 9:24-27....the timing of Masheiac's coming....v.27...And the strength of the Covenant multiples for one week: and in the middle of the
week, the sacrifice and the obligation cease, and upon the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.

From this prophecy it is my belief Messiah went to the cross on the 3rd day(wensday) and arose on First Fruits of the Wave offering of Barley, on Sabbaton...which is the evening after Shabbath.

Shalom.

 

[Elteqay]

You mean the New Covenant.

Jesus kept the Sabbath. He was Jewish after all.
He did say that the Sabbath was made for man (to rest) and not the other way around.
Mark 2:27

He also "worked" on the Sabbath and told the Pharisees they were wrong in abstaining from all work on the Sabbath.
Also, Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath since HE created it.

I maintain that the Sabbath was a ceremonial Law and was abolished with the New Covenant, which looked at the heart of man and not so much how well man kept Laws outwardly, but had a bad heart inwardly.

My main point, however, is that the Apostles wanted to commemorate the first day of the week since that was when Jesus was resurrected from death.

However, passages of Scripture such as Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, Colossians 2:16-17, and Revelation 1:10 indicate that, even during New Testament times, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, instead.
The early Church Fathers compared the observance of the Sabbath to the observance of the rite of circumcision, and from that they demonstrated that if the apostles abolished circumcision (Gal. 5:1-6), so also the observance of the Sabbath must have been abolished.
The following quotations show that the first Christians understood this principle and gathered for worship on Sunday.

The Didache​

“But every Lord’s day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned” (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).

The Letter of Barnabas​

“We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead” (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]).

Ignatius of Antioch​

“[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death” (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

Justin Martyr​

“But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead” (First Apology 67 [A.D. 155]).

The Didascalia​

“The apostles further appointed: On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of the holy scriptures, and the oblation [sacrifice of the Mass], because on the first day of the week [i.e., Sunday] our Lord rose from the place of the dead, and on the first day of the week he arose upon the world, and on the first day of the week he ascended up to heaven, and on the first day of the week he will appear at last with the angels of heaven” (Didascalia 2 [A.D. 225]).

source: https://www.catholic.com/tract/sabbath-or-sunday

The words in the Hebrew are specific....example, every month there is a New Moon, does God create a New Moon every month ? Of course not, the moon is Renewed....which is the very same word the Hebrew Scriptures uses in Jeremiah 31:31 brit =covenant....hodesh= Renewed or refreshed....the Hebrew is Brit Hadasha the Renewed Covenant or the Refreshed Covenant.

 

[CherubRam]

Where is this original text?

Here:

Online Greek Interlinear Bible

Online Greek Interlinear Bible

scripture4all.org

 

[CherubRam]

Brother, Daniel the Prophet states in Daniel 9:24-27....the timing of Masheiac's coming....v.27...And the strength of the Covenant multiples for one week: and in the middle of the
week, the sacrifice and the obligation cease, and upon the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.

From this prophecy it is my belief Messiah went to the cross on the 3rd day(wensday) and arose on First Fruits of the Wave offering of Barley, on Sabbaton...which is the evening after Shabbath.

Shalom.

During the days of the disciples two different calendars were used, the biblical 364 day calendar, and the Hellenistic Lunar calendar. With the biblical calendar, the festivals were always on the same days.
So which calendar do you think the Disciples used?

 

[Elteqay]

During the days of the disciples two different calendars were used, the biblical 364 day calendar, and the Hellenistic Lunar calendar. With the biblical calendar, the festivals were always on the same days.
So which calendar do you think the Disciples used?

Is this a trick question ? Only a christian would play that game.

Daniel plainly states the sacrifice and obligation would cease in the middle of the week, it was Messiah's who put an end to the sacrifice and obligation.

So, it seems you have used the 364 day calendar to come to your conclusion of Monday being Messiah's resurrection....I don't agree.

 

[GodsGrace]

The words in the Hebrew are specific....example, every month there is a New Moon, does God create a New Moon every month ? Of course not, the moon is Renewed....which is the very same word the Hebrew Scriptures uses in Jeremiah 31:31 brit =covenant....hodesh= Renewed or refreshed....the Hebrew is Brit Hadasha the Renewed Covenant or the Refreshed Covenant.

All the Covenants were refreshed in some way, changed, made better, added to, etc.

But the New Covenant is called the New Covenant in circles where Covenants are discussed.
It might say refreshed in Hebrew and I'd agree, but some question would arise as to which Covenant was being addressed.

 

[GodsGrace]

Here:

Online Greek Interlinear Bible

Online Greek Interlinear Bible

scripture4all.org

Doesn't help me at all.

 

[GodsGrace]

Here:

Online Greek Interlinear Bible

Online Greek Interlinear Bible

scripture4all.org

You don't agree with the following?:

◄ Acts 20:7 ►

Acts 20 - Click for Chapter 7 1722 [e] 7 En 7 Ἐν 7 In 7 Prep​ 1161 [e] de δὲ then Conj​ 3588 [e] tē τῇ the Art-DFS​ 1520 [e] mia μιᾷ first [day] Adj-DFS​ 3588 [e] tōn τῶν of the Art-GNP​ 4521 [e] sabbatōn σαββάτων , week N-GNP​ 4863 [e] synēgmenōn συνηγμένων having come together V-RPM/P-GMP​ 1473 [e] hēmōn ἡμῶν we PPro-G1P​ 2806 [e] klasai κλάσαι to break V-ANA​ 740 [e] arton ἄρτον , bread N-AMS​ 3588 [e] ho ὁ - Art-NMS​ 3972 [e] Paulos Παῦλος Paul N-NMS​ 1256 [e] dielegeto διελέγετο talked V-IIM/P-3S​ 846 [e] autois αὐτοῖς , to them PPro-DM3P​ 3195 [e] mellōn μέλλων about V-PPA-NMS​ 1826 [e] exienai ἐξιέναι to depart V-PNA​ 3588 [e] tē τῇ on the Art-DFS​ 1887 [e] epaurion ἐπαύριον ; next day Adv​ 3905 [e] pareteinen παρέτεινέν he continued V-IIA-3S​ 5037 [e] te τε then Conj​ 3588 [e] ton τὸν the Art-AMS​ 3056 [e] logon λόγον talk N-AMS​ 3360 [e] mechri μέχρι until Prep​ 3317 [e] mesonyktiou μεσονυκτίου . midnight N-GNS​

 

[Elteqay]

All the Covenants were refreshed in some way, changed, made better, added to, etc.

But the New Covenant is called the New Covenant in circles where Covenants are discussed.
It might say refreshed in Hebrew and I'd agree, but some question would arise as to which Covenant was being addressed.

The one from Mount Sini

All the Covenants were refreshed in some way, changed, made better, added to, etc.

But the New Covenant is called the New Covenant in circles where Covenants are discussed.
It might say refreshed in Hebrew and I'd agree, but some question would arise as to which Covenant was being addressed.

The one from Mt.Sinai, only now the Commandments are written on the circumcised Heart, but some christains they're on a Stony heart.

 

[GodsGrace]

The one from Mount Sini

The one from Mt.Sinai, only now the Commandments are written on the circumcised Heart, but some christains they're on a Stony heart.

OK
Now I think you're referring to the Mosaic Covenant.
But yes, those commandments were written on stone,
In the New Covenant, the commandments are written on the heart.

 

[CherubRam]

Is this a trick question ? Only a christian would play that game.

Daniel plainly states the sacrifice and obligation would cease in the middle of the week, it was Messiah's who put an end to the sacrifice and obligation.

So, it seems you have used the 364 day calendar to come to your conclusion of Monday being Messiah's resurrection....I don't agree.

OK, so you do not believe the Disciples used the Biblical Calendar.

 

[CherubRam]

You don't agree with the following?:

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◄ Acts 20:7 ►

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Acts 20 - Click for Chapter 7 1722 [e] 7 En 7 Ἐν 7 In 7 Prep​ 1161 [e] de δὲ then Conj​ 3588 [e] tē τῇ the Art-DFS​ 1520 [e] mia μιᾷ first [day] Adj-DFS​ 3588 [e] tōn τῶν of the Art-GNP​ 4521 [e] sabbatōn σαββάτων , week N-GNP​ 4863 [e] synēgmenōn συνηγμένων having come together V-RPM/P-GMP​ 1473 [e] hēmōn ἡμῶν we PPro-G1P​ 2806 [e] klasai κλάσαι to break V-ANA​ 740 [e] arton ἄρτον , bread N-AMS​ 3588 [e] ho ὁ - Art-NMS​ 3972 [e] Paulos Παῦλος Paul N-NMS​ 1256 [e] dielegeto διελέγετο talked V-IIM/P-3S​ 846 [e] autois αὐτοῖς , to them PPro-DM3P​ 3195 [e] mellōn μέλλων about V-PPA-NMS​ 1826 [e] exienai ἐξιέναι to depart V-PNA​ 3588 [e] tē τῇ on the Art-DFS​ 1887 [e] epaurion ἐπαύριον ; next day Adv​ 3905 [e] pareteinen παρέτεινέν he continued V-IIA-3S​ 5037 [e] te τε then Conj​ 3588 [e] ton τὸν the Art-AMS​ 3056 [e] logon λόγον talk N-AMS​ 3360 [e] mechri μέχρι until Prep​ 3317 [e] mesonyktiou μεσονυκτίου . midnight N-GNS​

And upon the first [day] of
the week, when the disciples
came together to break bread,
Paul preached unto them,
ready to depart on the morrow;
and continued his speech until
midnight.

The word day is not in this verse, and in the other text it says one of the Sabbaths.
You figure it out.

 

[CherubRam]

Now who would want people to think the Disciple kept a Sunday Sabbath?

 

[CherubRam]

​

CLV - Concordant Literal Version​

Acts 20:7​

CLV(i) 7 Now on one of the sabbaths, at our having gathered to break bread, Paul argued with them, being about to be off on the morrow. Besides, he prolonged the word unto midnight."

Concordant Version
The Concordant Version is an English translation of the Bible compiled by the Concordant Publishing Concern, which was founded by Adolph Ernst Knoch in 1909. The principal works of the CPC are the Concordant Literal New Testament with Keyword Concordance and the Concordant Version of the Old Testament.Wikipedia

 

[Elteqay]

OK, so you do not believe the Disciples used the Biblical Calendar.

Yes, the Disciples followed a biblical calendar, just not your interpretation of it.....considering the the Words of Yahuah is the Authority, when Scripture says sacrifice and the oblation will be cut off in the middle of the week, that's what it means and not the end of the week as you purpose.

 

[Elteqay]

OK
Now I think you're referring to the Mosaic Covenant.
But yes, those commandments were written on stone,
In the New Covenant, the commandments are written on the heart.

The Mosaic Covenant came after the 10 Commandments that had been written by the finger of Yahuah Tsevaoth on sapphire stone, which Moses threw and broke to show the people they had broken Yah's Covenant.

Jeremiah/Yirmeyahu 7:21-23...Thus says Yahuah Tsevaoth the Elohyim of Yashar'el; Add your ascending smoke offerings to your burnt offerings to your sacrifices and eat the flesh. For I Spoke NOT UNTO YOUR FATHERS, NOR COMMANDED THEM IN THE DAY THAT I BROUGHT THEM OUT OF THE LAND OF MITSRAYIM/EGYPT, CONCERNING ASCENDING SMOKE OFFERINGS OR SACRIFICES. But this thing I commanded them, saying; OBEY MY VOICE, and I will be your Elohyim, and ye shall be My people: walk ye in all My Ways that I have Commanded you, that it may be well unto you.

Exodus/Shemot 19:1-25...v.5 Now therefore, if ye will obey My VOICE indeed and guard My Covenant, then you shall be a peculiar Treasure unto Me above all people: for all the earth is Mine. V.7-8...And Mosheh came and called for the elders of the people and laid before their faces All the Words which Yahuah commanded him. And all the people Answered together, and said, All that Yahuah has spoken we will do. And Mosheh returned the words of the people unto Yahuah Tsevaoth.......

You can see by reading chapters 19 and 20 Yah commanded them not about sacrifices and smoke offerings. Only to obey the 10 Commandments. Which is the Renew Covenant in the Blood of Yahusha Ha' Masheiac.