Yahweh/Jesus

[Fedusenko]

Exactly! That is my point.

You missed my point. You posted that Yeshua is not like Mike. I agreed because Mike is shorthand for Michael. Both Yeshua and Michael have meanings that are important. If you take Jesus... well... do you think he introduced himself as Jesus to anyone?

Let's try an experiment: Find a Hispanic fellow around Austin, TX and ask him his name. Reply with an Americanized version of his name and see if he is comfortable with that.

What about you?

I call a duck a duck. It is one thing if my language does not have a certain sound that is in Yeshua's name. A mispronunciation is understandable under those circumstances, but we have no reason other than pre-King James versions of the bible translated translations of his name.

I call Him Yeshua. God is Yahweh. That doesn't mean that I don't reinforce His position by using terms like God or Messiah. Those are good descriptions of Him, but are not His name.

 

[Drummer4Christ]

You missed my point. You posted that Yeshua is not like Mike. I agreed because Mike is shorthand for Michael. Both Yeshua and Michael have meanings that are important. If you take Jesus... well... do you think he introduced himself as Jesus to anyone?

He certainly didn't introduce Himself as "Immanuel", either. However, He did make it known that He was "God with us".

Let's try an experiment: Find a Hispanic fellow around Austin, TX and ask him his name. Reply with an Americanized version of his name and see if he is comfortable with that.

Such as Jesus?
( probably not as funny without Spanish punctuation)

I call a duck a duck. It is one thing if my language does not have a certain sound that is in Yeshua's name. A mispronunciation is understandable under those circumstances, but we have no reason other than pre-King James versions of the bible translated translations of his name.

I call Him Yeshua. God is Yahweh. That doesn't mean that I don't reinforce His position by using terms like God or Messiah. Those are good descriptions of Him, but are not His name.

How is Yahweh (God) not His name? He told Moses "tell them I Am sent you". Not "like I Am" (Michael) but the I AM!

How can Messiah not be His name? Mary & Joseph were told to name Him Yeshua "God SAVES".

 

[Fedusenko]

Such as Jesus?

The thought crossed my mind, but I chose another name for clarity sake. But I agree.

How is Yahweh (God) not His name? He told Moses "tell them I Am sent you". Not "like I Am" (Michael) but the I AM!

How can Messiah not be His name? Mary & Joseph were told to name Him Yeshua "God SAVES"

Again, you misunderstood me (probably at fault of my own). They are separate, yet they are the same. I am my father, but I am also myself, Fedusenko. Note how He speaks to Yahweh in the garden before His arrest. Yeshua asks that there may be another way, yet subsides His desire for another's (Yahweh's). There is a clear difference shown between the two.

The Messiah = Yeshua
God = Yahweh or Eher Asher Eher

 

[jasoncran]

The thought crossed my mind, but I chose another name for clarity sake. But I agree.



Again, you misunderstood me (probably at fault of my own). They are separate, yet they are the same. I am my father, but I am also myself, Fedusenko. Note how He speaks to Yahweh in the garden before His arrest. Yeshua asks that there may be another way, yet subsides His desire for another's (Yahweh's). There is a clear difference shown between the two.

The Messiah = Yeshua
God = Yahweh or Eher Asher Eher

i am curious. what is your opinion of the divinity of christ? you do realise that the ot by name doesnt mention any triparte name. but the trinity is alluded to in verses.

the prievous posts of mine on the metatron mention that. lesser YHWH.

no christian believes in the trinity will say that jesus is the father.

 

[Fedusenko]

Honestly, I don't know. It is somewhat in the air. While I remember what pastors and 'Christians' have said, I hold it all in question. I do my research and I come to my conclusion. That is why I have come to this website. I am also a member of a forum that opposes my beliefs (I am afraid naming it will infringe on ToS though I would love for others to join me). Criticism helps expose cracks so that they may be strengthened.

I do not want to be the many that are deceived. I have constructs that I am working out, but in truth, I don't know where I hold the divinity of Christ.

1) Yeshua is the son of Yahweh.
2) There is only one God.
3) Who am I to limit Yahweh?
4) Yahweh brings Light, Satan brings Dark.

Is Yeshua to be venerated over Yahweh? I can't tell you. Is Yeshua Yahweh? Yes, it is stated in the Bible, but at the same time He isn't. To be Christ like... that is what it means to be Christian. Do you worship Yahweh? Yeshua? I suppose it depends on which way you point your Menorah.

 

[Drummer4Christ]

@ Fedusenko


Is the word of God created or eternal?

 

[Vic C.]

i am curious. what is your opinion of the divinity of christ? you do realise that the ot by name doesnt mention any triparte name. but the trinity is alluded to in verses.

the prievous posts of mine on the metatron mention that. lesser YHWH.

no christian believes in the trinity will say that jesus is the father.

... and yet many Christians read Isaiah 9:6 and skip right over the "everlasting father' part, not even knowing the proper translation should be, 'father of the everlasting' or 'father of eternity', as Young translated it.

Isaiah 9:6

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

6For a Child hath been born to us, A Son hath been given to us, And the princely power is on his shoulder, And He doth call his name Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace.

A minor difference but a difference nonetheless. Think about it. God the Father is the Father of all and Jesus is father of those granted everlasting or eternal life.

 

[Fedusenko]

@ Fedusenko


Is the word of God created or eternal?

Well, if God exists outside of time then His word does too. So the answer is yes. This is is what resolves the predestination and freewill paradox for me, but that is a whole other conversation.

 

[Drummer4Christ]

Well, if God exists outside of time then His word does too. So the answer is yes. This is is what resolves the predestination and freewill paradox for me, but that is a whole other conversation.

Just so we're clear: You are affirming that the word of God is eternal?

 

[Fedusenko]

Yes.

 

[Drummer4Christ]

Yes.

John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made.

I'm sure you notice the reference to Genesis1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth".

The Son has always maintained an eternal love relationship with the Father.

If you believe that Yeshua died for your sins, how could a man (or any created being) give up his life for you? It's neither his life to give, nor yours to accept.

Yet, the Almighty God lowers Himself, cloaking Himself in flesh by His own authority. He owns His life and He offers it to us freely, for the forgiveness of our sins.