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Danacovert82

Danacovert82

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This is a non debate thread. Just something I have observed about everyone on this forum.

I have observed that you guys like to change people's opinions about things. Here's an example of what I mean:

Me and the birth of Jesus. I wanted to celebrate it on a certain day, but you guys are banning me from doing that. That's just an example of what I noticed about you guys.

I know you all mean well, but it just makes me personally feel like you don't want me to do what I want in my walk.

And one last one: I got told by someone that they think I'm not a Christian. You have no right to judge someone. I haven't judges you, so don't judge me at all in my walk. I am not perfect like the rest of you.

This was just me venting. If you feel the need to lock this thread AND ban me for my opinions, then do so. I mean this. I feel like I'm not welcome here.
 
I understand you are upset, and yes it is obvious the site promotes a certain theology over others, and certain posters are given leniency in how they speak to others and what they may discuss.

I would hope you would stay and have fun.
 
You don't need to feel like you need to stop doing something just because someone has an opinion contrary to your's. If you want to celebrate Christmas, celebrate it. Celebrate it whenever and however you want.
Don't feel like you need to do or stop doing things just because you feel others might accept you more if you do. It's impossible to make everyone happy. We all have different opinions and views on things, but most of us can respect that not everyone is going to agree or live according to our opinions. Dictating to others how to live their lives is not the purpose of this forum.

While talking to other Christians about some issues can be beneficial and edifying, we are told in scripture (Romans 14) to respect that not all of us are going to have the same views on everything.
 
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Me and the birth of Jesus. I wanted to celebrate it on a certain day, but you guys are banning me from doing that. That's just an example of what I noticed about you guys.
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Banned you? no one banned you from anything.... shared ideas and different thoughts.
I know you all mean well, but it just makes me personally feel like you don't want me to do what I want in my walk.
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You post in an open forum do you not want replies?

And one last one: I got told by someone that they think I'm not a Christian. You have no right to judge someone. I haven't judges you, so don't judge me at all in my walk. I am not perfect like the rest of you.
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I must have missed that reply will you please let me know which it is....

This was just me venting. If you feel the need to lock this thread AND ban me for my opinions, then do so. I mean this. I feel like I'm not welcome here.
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Dana seems you wish to post your opinions and do not want other to do the same? We all vent we all have opinion and with in the guidelines of Christianity all are welcome...
 
Wondering why disagreement would bother you that much? Is christmas a very personal topic to you? It's a neutral non-personal topic for me, so I wasn't aware we are talking about something that's emotionally charged.
Do you need agreement to feel comfortable? And if so, do you need everyone's agreement?

Could you imagine, that my disliking of christmas is not equal to a disliking of you, but is a personal problem that I have with christmas; and that my disagreement with you is not a statement about you (or our relationship), but a statement about myself?
I live alone and can't see my parents (only family I have) until the day after christmas. My christmas day will be like that: I'll work my ass off doing the sound engineering for 2 super chaotic nativity plays and one service in my church, and then everyone will go home having a warm and cozy christmas eve with their family, the pastor will thank me for my service and then politely ask me to leave so he can finally relax and be with his family after that's been a stressful day for him, too. If I'm lucky someone will give me a ride home, but I can't count on that. Maybe I will be all by myself in the cold and dark and have to walk home 3 kilometers uphill through the woods at night, hoping that when I'm home I'll find some first person shooter game so I can act out my frustration and forget it's christmas. They say christmas is a season of love and getting together with your friends and family, but the truth is many people are mercilessly excluded from all the warm and loving family life, instead they are forced to observe those harmonic families in their pretty festive clothing during the christmas service ad then walk home and be alone.
So can you imagine that if I make snarky remarks in your christmas thread that's not because I want to ban you from your christmas, but because for people like me christmas means a lot of pain and loneliness and thus being grumpy about it is a mechanism of self-protection?

We're not ganging up on you because we hate you. In fact, I'm very certain noone here hates you. But we all have our own stories and ideas ad emotions that we act out even on an internet forum. It's not about you at all. Such behaviour may be self-centered of us, alright. But it's not hatred towards you.

Also, although the celebrating Jesus's birthday may have caused some debate, the positivity threads you started were generally well received.
 
You guys are getting mixed up. I was saying about the celebrate Jesus birthday in September was wrong cause you guys don't like me doing that.

And the person I am not going to mention asked me if I was a Christian. I don't like that because it makes me feel like I have to conform to certain ways.

I don't feel like Christmas is too personal to me. It's just that I was wondering what non materialistic thing you guys wanted for Christmas.

And yes, it seems like I don't want people to voice their opinions. Sorry I act that way. It is one thing of millions that I am working on.

I didn't say anyone banned me. I said, and I quote
if you feel the need to lock this thread AND ban me then do so.
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That meant that it just seems like you guys don't like what I said.

And that person asking me if I was a Christian was in the thread that I started about helping my friend Ryan end the friendship with JJ for good.

Last thing: I don't dislike disagreements. It's just as I've said before that I feel like I don't want them because I act like the moderator of the forums. And I'm working on that.

So, again, I am truly sorry I have been a pain in the tukis. And for that I am truly sorry. I'm not perfect and neither are you guys.
 
And guys, I want to say this: I will not post anymore threads about how I feel. I am done making my venting heard. I won't leave, but just not vent as much. Especially about what I see on the forums. And no I won't ask for this thread to be locked. Say what you want. I won't stand in your way anymore.
 
You can celebrate Jesus' birthday in September if you want to. No one should have to approve of it for you to do it. :) Well, except God, of course, but there's really nothing in the Bible to indicate that God would forbid that.

Also, if you see someone breaking the rules, use the report button and the mods will look into it. CF has rules covering treatment of others for a reason.
 
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You can celebrate Jesus' birthday in September if you want to. No one should have to approve of it for you to do it. :) Well, except God, of course, but there's really nothing in the Bible to indicate that God would forbid that.

Also, if you see someone breaking the rules, use the report button and the mods will look into it. CF has rules covering treatment of others for a reason.
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I will do that from now on. But not all the time. That would make me seem like a mod.
 
I like the saying, "Work out your own Salvation".
It is beneficial and necessary sometimes to ask for help understanding the things of God.
Aside from that- what you say or do is between you and God.
You don't need to put yourself down because you feel like you don't fit in.
I think you are very sensitive and I appreciate that trait in others, because I am too.
I'm not bothered by your venting posts. I could be wrong, but I think
you're so hurt you're crying out to others for help, and when they don't react the way
you want/need them to, you feel rejected. It's ok to express how you feel.
Hold on to the people in your life that love you,
and I hope that you can feel that love on this forum.
There is one person who will never let you down, hurt you emotionally, etc.
That person is Jesus.
Also, if there is a thread started that you don't agree with, and it stresses you out to discuss it,
don't reply to the thread at all. :)
I think you are a sweetheart Dana- I can tell you're a good person. You are working
so hard on your faith walk and on your relationship with others here-
that is commendable.
If I have got it wrong in this posts, please do not be frustrated with me.
I care about you! :)
You're gonna make it!
 
Thanks Angel that's so sweet of you to say this about me. I love you too sister in Christ. And I care about you too. And no you do not have anything wrong what you said. You got it all right.
 
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Thanks for that reba I appreciate it.

Angel I think you're right with the part you said
I'm not bothered by your venting posts. I could be wrong, but I think
you're so hurt you're crying out to others for help, and when they don't react the way
you want/need them to, you feel rejected. It's ok to express how you feel.
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I do vent because I cry out to GOD. Maybe I should write a journal. I am going to get a journal app and vent there so I don't clutter up the forum with my posts.
 
Dana I've read many of your posts and threads now. They just seem to always be popping up in the new posts section. I for one would like to say that I think you read WAY to much into what a lot of people say in response to things you have posted and you get VERY defensive over the slightest of things which many times I think you are misinterpreting. For example you did indeed accuse people here of "banning" you from celebrating Christmas on a different day (I was following that thread myself) when you posted above "I wanted to celebrate it on a certain day, but you guys are banning me from doing that." Then later you deny saying this, claiming that we are all just mixed up! As has already been said, you can't expect to post stuff in a public forum and then be allowed to tell everyone else to shut up. No one in that Christmas thread you started ever tried to stop you from celebrating Christmas on whatever day you want to that I saw. People, including myself only offered their opinions of why they celebrate when they do and offered suggestions of the benefits of doing so. This is just the way humans interact with each other! Everyone has opinions and when people talk, a huge percentage of the time they are trying to convince others that their opinions are correct. That's just human nature and you can't expect to change that unless you simply quit talking to people in any form. Obviously no one would want to do that!

As for someone asking you if you were a Christian... Well, why shouldn't they? That's not judgmental, it's giving you an opportunity to testify that you ARE. I ask people I meet if they are Christians all the time when they give me some kind of indication that they might be, or even if they show some outward indications they might be but also are doing or saying things that are contradictory to the doctrine of salvation. But I also ride motorcycles, so I might ask someone else if they ride, or I might ask them any number of other things to get an idea on their frame of reference or about common ground I might share with them. There's nothing any more judgmental about asking someone if they are a Christian then asking if they ride a motorcycle! That's not the same thing as saying something such as "How can you possibly be a Christian and do (insert grey area non-salvation related topic here)???" But simply asking the question is just basic human interaction!

I personally think you've made some interesting posts since you've been here that have lead to interesting conversations. But they get stifled when you start ordering people to stop posting. In my opinion that's kind of rude actually, especially when you seem to do that on such a large percentage of your threads. It can make some people not want to converse with you. When that happens we all lose the bennefit of what might have been a good point or idea that they would have otherwise shared. I think you need to lighten up a bit on the over-analyzing and just enjoy the back and forth conversations. You'll find it's a lot more enjoyable that way! Anyway, that's just my observations and a few words of advice I would hope would help you enjoy relating with others a little more. Take it for what it's worth to you. I'm not trying to be negative with you, just trying to help you see things a little clearer that can sometimes be hard to see when you are the one involved in it. :) (Yeah, guess what, I used to have the same tendency, and have had to work on correcting it. It's a life long project.)
 
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Okay Obadiah I see your point. Basically I need to NOT worry about what people are saying. And I will quit trying to say what I THINK people are saying. I will take it with a grain of salt. You guys are making me realize that I need to just have fun.

And the banning thing WAS me saying that if any of the mods want to ban me so you guys can get back to normal, you can. And yes I did say you guys are banning me from celebrating Jesus' birthday. But I am going to celebrate it anyway.

And I am not going to act like the jerk I have been. I am going to work on it. Read the How Do I Become A Better Member thread in the advice forum, and give me any and all advice you want. I am crying happy tears cause you guys are really tearing me down to build me up again a better person. :missyou
 
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Okay Obadiah I see your point. Basically I need to NOT worry about what people are saying. And I will quit trying to say what I THINK people are saying. I will take it with a grain of salt. You guys are making me realize that I need to just have fun.

And the banning thing WAS me saying that if any of the mods want to ban me so you guys can get back to normal, you can. And yes I did say you guys are banning me from celebrating Jesus' birthday. But I am going to celebrate it anyway.

And I am not going to act like the jerk I have been. I am going to work on it. Read the How Do I Become A Better Member thread in the advice forum, and give me any and all advice you want. I am crying happy tears cause you guys are really tearing me down to build me up again a better person. :missyou
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This isn't the hug thread, but,

*hug*
 
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