Your first true love

[Jethro Bodine]

He actually creates two at a time, one male, and the other female, within the same entity. As with their cellular analog the zygote, He immediately splits them apart and they take their life on earth separately, usually never to even see one another.

You're still describing a worldly, fleshly concept of soul mates.

However, in rare cases (and becoming less rare) these S/Ms do find each other, and may or may not experience a relationship with each other. Some people consider this the highest form of human romantic love.

Romantic love is human love. It comes from the flesh. That's not a bad thing. We just need to understand that and stop ascribing other-worldliness to it and recognize what drives it so it can be controlled by the Spirit. It's like any other appetite of the flesh, it needs to be governed by the Spirit.

At any rate, it's not about God "pairing" people up like a cosmic matchmaker.

How can what you are describing not be that?

It's also not about dreamy idealism, as S/M relationships can be the most turbulent relationships around (as you each know how to punch each other's buttons). Still, people not averse to a wild ride can be very attracted to this increasingly common phenomenon.

It is not okay to have a turbulent relationship. It's not okay to let our natural selves harm our mates. I have never been able to understand people who somehow enjoy having a snarky personal relationship with their spouse, or with members of their immediate family. To me it's an excuse to not be self-controlled. They treat each other like crap when stressful circumstances come and then they act like it never happened the next day and expect you to be okay with that. I honestly think people who thrive on that kind of thing, thinking it's okay, need their eyes opened to the truth.

Anyways, before we summarily reject this popular New Age concept because it's, well, a popular New Age concept, I think it's important, as a minimum, to understand clearly what the theory states in the first place.

The theory has nothing to do with New Age thinking and ideas. But I will agree that it's a product of natural man's thinking and reasoning. The thinking is that soul mates are two people so well suited for each other, as evidenced by what they are able to genuinely enjoy in each other, that God must have purposely made that happen. It's carnal, natural thinking. Just because something clicks it's thought that God must have purposely done it, and did it for the sole purpose of the pleasure of the two involved.

Sorry, but I think we humans need to come down out of the clouds about this one and face reality.

 

[Edward]

Mine was 7 years ago and lasted about 5 seconds.

Anyone else believe in soulmates?

I do not. If there is such a thing as soulmates, then our soulmate is God. But in the way you speak, no, I don't. I have proved this, I think. My first love was my wife. But...no soulmate there.

Think about it. You had a first love. It's over. You're probably married now and love your wife. How did that happen?

I think that all men have the capacity to love any woman, and all women have the capacity to love any man. There is a lot of factors involved. But if one has a soulmate, then, wouldn't that suggest that they are the only one that they could love like this?
and yet many (most) of us who had first loves...are not with them. So first love doesn't mean soulmate, and that you love your present wife doesn't mean soulmate. Have we all married the wrong one? Interesting.

The idea of a soulmate would preclude ever not liking them, wouldn't it? and yet, look around you...many who had first loves are not with them, and many of the couples that have the strongest relationships...didn't like each other at first!~

Give a man and a woman enough time together, and they will fall in love. Anyone will. Even if they do not like them at first.

 

[Edward]

He never threw sand on you, so it was never true love.

Now that's an interesting statement. I've thought about that before. Young ones, who see a girl in school and like her...what do they do? They throw sand on them or push them down, to get their attention! Their first pass at a girl, lol.

Girls do it too. That girl that doesn't like you? She may be secretly in love with you. How vociferous is she about it? A clue...:yes

 

[Kathi]

Now that's an interesting statement. I've thought about that before. Young ones, who see a girl in school and like her...what do they do? They throw sand on them or push them down, to get their attention! Their first pass at a girl, lol.

Girls do it too. That girl that doesn't like you? She may be secretly in love with you. How vociferous is she about it? A clue...:yes

That is not soul mates that is young flirting.I used to have the guys in grade school chase me with spiders and snakes or pull my hair.Yep...boys and girls just realizing the difference in the two sexes.

 

[Edward]

That is not soul mates that is young flirting.I used to have the guys in grade school chase me with spiders and snakes or pull my hair.Yep...boys and girls just realizing the difference in the two sexes.

I didn't say that was soul mates. I said it was a youngsters first pass at a girl. They noticed the difference like yousay, and girls smell good...and that's intriguing to them so they like them. But they're at a loss for knowing how to properly approach them being young and not a lot of social skills, so they push them down or chase them with a spider!

Classic!

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I used to have the guys in grade school chase me with spiders and snakes or pull my hair.

"She said, "I don't like spiders or snakes, and that ain't what it takes to love me (chook-abada chook-abada), like I wanna be loved by you"

Jim Stafford

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Time to lighten this thread up....

 

[Edward]

Wildwood flower grew out on the farm but we never knowed what it was callled...oh wait, wrong thread, lol

 

[jeff77]

I believe there are certain people that have a soul mate for the purpose of carrying out God's plan.

 

[KevinK]

I believe there are certain people that have a soul mate for the purpose of carrying out God's plan.

Yes, I believe that, also. That's what the Twin Flame soulmate is.

Now if I could just figure out where mine is...:wink

 

[KevinK]

Think about it. You had a first love. It's over. You're probably married now and love your wife. How did that happen?

No, not marrried, never have been, and not currently in a relationship. Reason (at least one of the reasons): haven't met my soulmate yet, maybe never will (but I have seen her).

Everyone seems to have their own theories on soulmates, which is fine. Let's just all agree to disagree.

 

[Edward]

No, not marrried, never have been, and not currently in a relationship. Reason (at least one of the reasons): haven't met my soulmate yet, maybe never will (but I have seen her).

Everyone seems to have their own theories on soulmates, which is fine. Let's just all agree to disagree.

Oh, it's a great idea! I love the idea of soulmates.
Do you think it's possible for any man/woman to love any other man/woman?

 

[Kathi]

I believe there are certain people that have a soul mate for the purpose of carrying out God's plan.

Hmmm....interesting thought.And that could be a husband or wife who was really bad to you.The outcome was bringing you to Him.

 

[Kathi]

Oh, it's a great idea! I love the idea of soulmates.
Do you think it's possible for any man/woman to love any other man/woman?

I was attracted to this guy who was a really good friend of husband #1 and I .He was such a sweet guy and my husband was such as.....well...I really don't have the kind words for it.I just kept the attraction a secret.

 

[Edward]

I was attracted to this guy who was a really good friend of husband #1 and I .He was such a sweet guy and my husband was such as.....well...I really don't have the kind words for it.I just kept the attraction a secret.

Yeah, that's sort've what I was talking about. I *think* that in a true soulmate situation that that would not be possible. But inside/outside every woman and man is something good that is attractive to the members of the opposite sex, preferences notwithstanding.

Given enough time to get to know each other better, anybody can fall in love. That's why it's not a good reason to let men (or women) hang out at the house while the spouse is gone,Old friends or not. Bad juju.

 

[KevinK]

Oh, it's a great idea! I love the idea of soulmates.
Do you think it's possible for any man/woman to love any other man/woman?

You can love someone who is not a soulmate. Nothing wrong with that. It's not some kind of inferior love. Not everyone is destined to be with their soulmate.

 

[Kathi]

Yeah, that's sort've what I was talking about. I *think* that in a true soulmate situation that that would not be possible. But inside/outside every woman and man is something good that is attractive to the members of the opposite sex, preferences notwithstanding.

Given enough time to get to know each other better, anybody can fall in love. That's why it's not a good reason to let men (or women) hang out at the house while the spouse is gone,Old friends or not. Bad juju.

I think if you are not in a satisfying relationship you would tend to look at someone else and think "Maybe I should have gone with him/her.

 

[Kathi]

Yeah, that's sort've what I was talking about. I *think* that in a true soulmate situation that that would not be possible. But inside/outside every woman and man is something good that is attractive to the members of the opposite sex, preferences notwithstanding.

Given enough time to get to know each other better, anybody can fall in love. That's why it's not a good reason to let men (or women) hang out at the house while the spouse is gone,Old friends or not. Bad juju.

Temptation.....not good.

 

[Kathi]

You can love someone who is not a soulmate. Nothing wrong with that. It's not some kind of inferior love. Not everyone is destined to be with their soulmate.

You can not say "wait a minute here I do not think you are my soul mate so we are history"

 

[Edward]

You can love someone who is not a soulmate. Nothing wrong with that. It's not some kind of inferior love. Not everyone is destined to be with their soulmate.

I agree. hey waitaminute...check me on this, I just had a thought.

How can a man love a woman, without loving all women somewhat? I don't think he can.

I think if you are not in a satisfying relationship you would tend to look at someone else and think "Maybe I should have gone with him/her.

Yeah, temptation and so forth.

You can not say "wait a minute here I do not think you are my soul mate so we are history"

Well, you could...but it would be lacking in class. I think that Kevin waiting on his soulmate shows an incredible amount of faith and patience. You'll probably be rewarded for that.